Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-06-03 Thread Lists
On 05/16/2014 11:23 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: hardware doesn't support ECC. snip Oh, right, *all* the servers here use ECC DIMMs. And you really, REALLY don't want to go there: a) price, b) n/s is not buffered is not registered, none of the above compatible in the same bank, and oh, yes,

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-06-03 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-05-16, m.r...@5-cent.us m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Not sure what you mean by lightweight, but I've been happy with Asus and Gigabyte motherboards. STAY AWAY from Supermicro: we have a bunch of servers with 64 cores - so we're talking high end - which we bought from Penguin, and we've had

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-06-03 Thread John R Pierce
On 6/3/2014 11:26 AM, Lists wrote: ECC is such a horrible pain in the rear. seriously? where did you EVER get this from? any server thats storing data which is even remotely important, not having ECC means that soft bit errors go undetected, leading to VERY hard to detect data corruption.

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-06-03 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am 03.06.2014 um 20:26 schrieb Lists li...@benjamindsmith.com: On 05/16/2014 11:23 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: hardware doesn't support ECC. snip Oh, right, *all* the servers here use ECC DIMMs. And you really, REALLY don't want to go there: a) price, b) n/s is not buffered is not

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-06-03 Thread Warren Young
On 6/3/2014 12:26, Lists wrote: Registered/Unregistered, CAS timing, single/double/quad ranked, never mind voltages, and making sure your CPU supports it! All of those specs are listed in the motherboard manual. If you're buying your RAM from a reseller that doesn't give you the

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-06-03 Thread Andrew Holway
On 16 May 2014 13:21, Joseph Hesse joehe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I want to build a lightweight server and install centos. Does anyone have a recommendation for a suitable motherboard? At home I have two of these atom C2750 boards each with 32GB of ECC ram . They are extremely good,

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-06-03 Thread Lists
On 06/03/2014 11:52 AM, Rainer Duffner wrote: It’s also a bit of a sorry showing for the admin putting together the system. Perhaps, perhaps not. Remember the old saw about simplicity and reliability? ECC ignores that saw completely, resulting in a complex, error prone hardware landscape

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-06-03 Thread m . roth
Warren Young wrote: On 6/3/2014 12:26, Lists wrote: Registered/Unregistered, CAS timing, single/double/quad ranked, never mind voltages, and making sure your CPU supports it! All of those specs are listed in the motherboard manual. If you're buying your RAM from a reseller that doesn't

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-06-03 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am 03.06.2014 um 22:39 schrieb m.r...@5-cent.us: Warren Young wrote: On 6/3/2014 12:26, Lists wrote: Registered/Unregistered, CAS timing, single/double/quad ranked, never mind voltages, and making sure your CPU supports it! All of those specs are listed in the motherboard manual. If

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-06-03 Thread Lists
On 06/03/2014 01:53 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote: That’s why you replace both. Or, if you build your own servers in significant quantities, you’ve got to do you’re own stock-keeping. Need 24 hard drives? Buy 30! Need 12 PSUs for 6 servers? Buy 16. This may be industry standard, and I understand

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-06-03 Thread John R Pierce
On 6/3/2014 2:58 PM, Lists wrote: This may be industry standard, and I understand that. I just think that it's a poor showing that this is what you have to do to take advantage of technology meant to be more reliable than consumer grade stuff, which somehow manages to be quite reliable even if

[CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-05-16 Thread Joseph Hesse
Hello, I want to build a lightweight server and install centos. Does anyone have a recommendation for a suitable motherboard? Thank you, Joe ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-05-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 05/16/2014 02:21 AM, Joseph Hesse wrote: Hello, I want to build a lightweight server and install centos. Does anyone have a recommendation for a suitable motherboard? I have a number of Small Form Factor units standing on their sides as servers. I prefer Lenovo these days, HP SFF power

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-05-16 Thread Matt Garman
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Joseph Hesse joehe...@gmail.com wrote: I want to build a lightweight server and install centos. Does anyone have a recommendation for a suitable motherboard? What will the role of the server be? How lightweight? How many users, what kinds of services, what

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-05-16 Thread m . roth
Joseph Hesse wrote: Hello, I want to build a lightweight server and install centos. Does anyone have a recommendation for a suitable motherboard? Not sure what you mean by lightweight, but I've been happy with Asus and Gigabyte motherboards. STAY AWAY from Supermicro: we have a bunch of

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-05-16 Thread Chris Pemberton
On 05/16/2014 07:21 AM, Joseph Hesse wrote: Hello, I want to build a lightweight server and install centos. Does anyone have a recommendation for a suitable motherboard? Thank you, Joe ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-05-16 Thread Joseph Hesse
On 05/16/2014 10:28 AM, Dave Stevens wrote: Quoting Joseph Hesse joehe...@gmail.com: Hello, I want to build a lightweight server and install centos. Does anyone have a recommendation for a suitable motherboard? Thank you, Joe there are lots of motherboards that might do; in my

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-05-16 Thread John R Pierce
On 5/16/2014 11:09 AM, Joseph Hesse wrote: The question in my mind is: should I just buy another workstation class motherboard and duplicate what I already have or buy a motherboard which is intended to be used as a server? I won't run a server that doesn't have ECC main memory. most desktop

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-05-16 Thread m . roth
Joseph Hesse wrote: On 05/16/2014 10:28 AM, Dave Stevens wrote: Quoting Joseph Hesse joehe...@gmail.com: I want to build a lightweight server and install centos. Does anyone have a recommendation for a suitable motherboard? there are lots of motherboards that might do; in my experience

Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation

2014-05-16 Thread m . roth
John R Pierce wrote: On 5/16/2014 11:09 AM, Joseph Hesse wrote: The question in my mind is: should I just buy another workstation class motherboard and duplicate what I already have or buy a motherboard which is intended to be used as a server? I won't run a server that doesn't have ECC main