Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-14 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 09:47 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 21:53 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: On Saturday, November 12, 2011 01:01 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: Cyrus is incredibly reliable, stable and fast. And the latest 2.4.x series closes numerous potential issues

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-12 Thread Christopher Chan
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 01:01 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. Something for Postfix to deliver the mail too. Mail store != imap server. Mail store = structure for

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-12 Thread Christopher Chan
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 01:04 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: +1 The shipped packages on most distributions are a bit lame; Simon's packages are the way to go. They also provision everything as Skiplist [Cyrus' preferred DB format] avoiding the ugliness that is Berkley DB [issue with

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.11.2011 14:53, schrieb Christopher Chan: Oh, so Cyrus is another 'use a database as a mail store'? The other one that I know of but cannot remember the name of uses postgresql for its mailstore. the only REAl db-driven mailservr is dbmail and in combination with

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-12 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 21:53 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: On Saturday, November 12, 2011 01:01 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: People with bad hardware can break anything; and you're probably talking about old versions anyway [anything with indexes/databases can corrupt]. You should be

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:38 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: been using cyrus-imapd for years - eats dovecot for lunch in terms of features/performance/reliability/scaling/flexibility and just about every other

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-11 Thread Craig White
On Nov 11, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:38 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: been using cyrus-imapd for years - eats dovecot for lunch in terms of

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Craig White craig.wh...@ttiltd.com wrote: Have you looked at the ClearOS implementation which should come up running out of the box connected to an LDAP user base? No but configuring cyrus-imapd postfix for LDAP is trivial. In fact, once you get clued

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-11 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. Something for Postfix to deliver the mail too. Mail store != imap server. Mail store = structure for mboxes/maildirs. Cyrus is sort of its own thing with

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-11 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 23:13 -0700, Craig White wrote: been using cyrus-imapd for years - eats dovecot for lunch in terms of features/performance/reliability/scaling/flexibility and just about every other imaginable use for an IMAP server. Hmm, I must give it a try one day then

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 11/9/2011 6:23 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: SPAMAssasin is a monster and the documentation is *BAD*. But I've gotten it working. Just post specific questions. SpamAssassin is not THAT bad. There is a fair amount of info out there on how to integrate it with various mail servers.

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 07:23 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 01:10 -0500, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: CentOS Community I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE documents on

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: For CLAMAV you need to have clamd running and a milter.  I'm not certain what milter's are current - when I set one up they were all had equally stale documentation.  Does CentOS currently ship a working

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/10/11 4:48 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. Something for Postfix to deliver the mail too. Mail store != imap server. Mail store = structure for mboxes/maildirs. indeed, reader protocol servers like imap, pop3, are a

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:00 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: For CLAMAV you need to have clamd running and a milter. I'm not certain what milter's are current - when I set one up they were all

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: Mail store != imap server. Mail store = structure for mboxes/maildirs. Cyrus is sort of its own thing with its own mail store. Sorry, I keep forgetting about that crap... Never touched it and

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: Sorry, I keep forgetting about that crap... Never touched it and never wanted to after I heard the screams from a friend who used cyrus and swore by it until he got corrupt mailboxes. Had to help setup postfix, dovecot and

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 21:12 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: On 11/10/11 4:48 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. Something for Postfix to deliver the mail too. Mail store != imap server. Mail store = structure for

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:28 PM, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: Sorry, I keep forgetting about that crap... Never touched it and never wanted to after I heard the screams from a friend who used cyrus and swore by it until he got

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:31 PM, Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 21:12 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: On 11/10/11 4:48 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. Something for Postfix to deliver the mail

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:40 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:31 PM, Craig White wrote: LMTP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Mail_Transfer_Protocol That's still nothing to do with imap/pop3 servers. dovecot provides an LDA for just that purpose

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:38 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:28 PM, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: Sorry, I keep forgetting about that crap... Never touched it and never wanted to after I heard the

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 02:36 PM, John R Pierce wrote: On 11/08/11 10:10 PM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE documents on google, however almost all that i've

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 09.11.2011 07:19, schrieb Leon Jacobs: http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-and-domains-with-postfix-courier-mysql-and-squirrelmail-centos-6.0-x86_64 A strong NO! That howto tinstructs to run through source installs on CentOS. A really bad habit. Even completeley unnecessary. And

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread John R. Dennison
On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Alexander Dalloz wrote: Am 09.11.2011 07:19, schrieb Leon Jacobs: A strong NO! Emphatically seconded. That howto tinstructs to run through source installs on CentOS. A really bad habit. Even completeley unnecessary. Most of the howto's I've seen

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Leon Jacobs
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 10:58 AM, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Alexander Dalloz wrote: Am 09.11.2011 07:19, schrieb Leon Jacobs: A strong NO! Emphatically seconded. Forgetting to add A quick google came up with... and not reading the

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Marius Vaitiekunas
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Jonathan Vomacka juvi...@gmail.com wrote: CentOS Community, I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE documents on google, however almost all that i've found were outdated

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Alain Péan
Le 09/11/2011 10:02, Leon Jacobs a écrit : On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 10:58 AM, John R. Dennisonj...@gerdesas.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Alexander Dalloz wrote: Am 09.11.2011 07:19, schrieb Leon Jacobs: A strong NO! Emphatically seconded. Forgetting to add A quick

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Patrick Lists
On 11/09/2011 10:10 AM, Marius Vaitiekunas wrote: Hi, Maybe, somebody could recommend any good books about complete mail server open source solution? Sorry for OT. I found the Postfix: the Definitive Guide book by Kyle D. Dent very useful to learn about Postfix. There is also The Book of

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Les Bell
Alain Péan alain.p...@lpp.polytechnique.fr wrote: These two links, even if I read them rapidly, seem more accurate : http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/postfix http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Amavisd A few years ago, I followed the Postfix/amavisd/spamassassin/ClamAV HOWTO on the Centos Wiki and had

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 02:58 -0600, John R. Dennison wrote: On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 09:46:51AM +0100, Alexander Dalloz wrote: Am 09.11.2011 07:19, schrieb Leon Jacobs A strong NO! Emphatically seconded. +1 Especially since CentOS 6 gives you pretty recent versions of everything.

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 01:10 -0500, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: CentOS Community I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE documents on google, however almost all that i've found were outdated from 2005. Does

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Jussi Hirvi
On 9.11.2011 13.23, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: For CLAMAV you need to have clamd running and a milter. I'm not certain what milter's are current - when I set one up they were all had equally stale documentation. Does CentOS currently ship a working clamav milter? Hope this is relevant. I

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Jussi Hirvi
On 9.11.2011 14.04, Jussi Hirvi wrote: Looks like there is no similar dual setup for postfix. This postfix tutorial does not look bad: http://www.wowtutorial.org/tutorial/169.html Uh, now I read some more of this thread and saw some (other) bad tutorials. This one is not so good either:

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Mike Burger
On 11/08/11 10:10 PM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: squirrelmail is not actually a mail server, its a web based mail reader. its also not a standard part of the centos distribution. see http://squirrelmail.org/ You sure about that? I've got a CentOS 5.6 system that I'm in the process of

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread David C. Miller
- Original Message - From: Jonathan Vomacka juvi...@gmail.com To: centos@centos.org Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:10:28 PM Subject: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure CentOS Community, I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by step

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-09 Thread Simon Slater
On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 20:33:23 Patrick Lists wrote: On 11/09/2011 10:10 AM, Marius Vaitiekunas wrote: Hi, Maybe, somebody could recommend any good books about complete mail server open source solution? Sorry for OT. I found the Postfix: the Definitive Guide book by Kyle D. Dent very useful

[CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-08 Thread Jonathan Vomacka
CentOS Community, I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE documents on google, however almost all that i've found were outdated from 2005. Does anyone know where I can find this type of document for a

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-08 Thread Leon Jacobs
http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-and-domains-with-postfix-courier-mysql-and-squirrelmail-centos-6.0-x86_64 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Jonathan Vomacka juvi...@gmail.com wrote: CentOS Community, I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by step in

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/08/11 10:10 PM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE documents on google, however almost all that i've found were outdated from 2005. Does anyone know where I can find this