Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-02 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 3/2/21 5:42 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: You may need to rebuild gcc from different source rpms to get Objective-C in EL-8. The RHEL gcc source rpms did not produce Objective-C rpms or binaries when I looked at it in 2019. That would explain the gcc rpms in the upsteam nightly repo

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 20:41, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 3/1/21 4:31 PM, Joshua Kramer wrote: > > Do those scripts also handle the building of Objective-C, which is > > needed to build SOGo? I have been toying with this off and on, > > there's an independent repo somewhere that has the EL8

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 3/1/21 4:31 PM, Joshua Kramer wrote: Do those scripts also handle the building of Objective-C, which is needed to build SOGo? I have been toying with this off and on, there's an independent repo somewhere that has the EL8 builds of Obj-C and SOGo, but I haven't had time to get everything set

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Joshua Kramer
> I've had good success with SOGo, and I publish scripts for building the free release as rpm packages: Do those scripts also handle the building of Objective-C, which is needed to build SOGo? I have been toying with this off and on, there's an independent repo somewhere that has the EL8 builds

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Am 01.03.21 um 20:21 schrieb Simon Matter: On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 12:46, Simon Matter wrote: On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 10:42, Simon Matter wrote: Am 01.03.21 um 15:56 schrieb Simon Matter: Thanks for your suggestion. No, I'm not really thinking about docker/podman. I prefer having clean

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 14:21, Simon Matter wrote: > > On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 12:46, Simon Matter > wrote: > > > > > EPEL has always been in the need of more people who can volunteer time to > > help maintain and package things. However for the last 5 years (so even > > before EL8) the need has

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread me
On Mon, 1 Mar 2021, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 3/1/21 5:57 AM, Simon Matter wrote: Is there anybody running webmail on EL8? Can you make a recommendation on a certain tool? I've had good success with SOGo, and I publish scripts for building the free release as rpm packages:

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Simon Matter
> On 3/1/21 5:57 AM, Simon Matter wrote: >> Is there anybody running webmail on EL8? Can you make a recommendation >> on >> a certain tool? > > > I've had good success with SOGo, and I publish scripts for building the > free release as rpm packages: > > https://github.com/gordonmessmer/build-sogo

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Simon Matter
> On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 12:46, Simon Matter wrote: > >> > On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 10:42, Simon Matter >> wrote: >> > >> >> > Am 01.03.21 um 15:56 schrieb Simon Matter: >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for your suggestion. No, I'm not really thinking about >> >> >> docker/podman. I prefer having clean system

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 3/1/21 5:57 AM, Simon Matter wrote: Is there anybody running webmail on EL8? Can you make a recommendation on a certain tool? I've had good success with SOGo, and I publish scripts for building the free release as rpm packages: https://github.com/gordonmessmer/build-sogo If you decide

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 12:46, Simon Matter wrote: > > On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 10:42, Simon Matter > wrote: > > > >> > Am 01.03.21 um 15:56 schrieb Simon Matter: > >> > >> >> Thanks for your suggestion. No, I'm not really thinking about > >> >> docker/podman. I prefer having clean system installs,

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Simon Matter
> On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 10:42, Simon Matter wrote: > >> > Am 01.03.21 um 15:56 schrieb Simon Matter: >> >> >> Thanks for your suggestion. No, I'm not really thinking about >> >> docker/podman. I prefer having clean system installs, even if I have >> to >> >> create RPMs myself. This has worked

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 10:42, Simon Matter wrote: > > Am 01.03.21 um 15:56 schrieb Simon Matter: > > >> Thanks for your suggestion. No, I'm not really thinking about > >> docker/podman. I prefer having clean system installs, even if I have to > >> create RPMs myself. This has worked fine for the

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 3/1/21 11:02 AM, Simon Matter wrote: On 3/1/21 10:27 AM, Jay Hart wrote: Am 01.03.21 um 15:56 schrieb Simon Matter: On 3/1/21 2:57 PM, Simon Matter wrote: ... I was looking at Roundcube but it seems difficult on EL8 because a lot of PHP stuff is missing and not available as RPMs.

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Dave Stevens
On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 10:56:11 -0600 Valeri Galtsev wrote: > PS Not everything that paces fast with new "releases" and which > releases security patches even more often (yes, I look at you, > Mozilla firefox and thunderbird) is "pretty much dead". and claws for me or roundcube works fine. d

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Simon Matter
> > > On 3/1/21 10:27 AM, Jay Hart wrote: >> >> Am 01.03.21 um 15:56 schrieb Simon Matter: >> >> On 3/1/21 2:57 PM, Simon Matter wrote: >>> ... >>> I was looking at Roundcube but it seems difficult on EL8 because a >>> lot >>> of >>> PHP stuff is missing and not

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 3/1/21 10:41 AM, Christopher Wensink wrote: Jay, I agree, the last post on https://squirrelmail.org/ was an announcement for PHP 5.4 and 5.5 Compatibility  from 5/30/2013. The last plugin update was 3/28/2014.  I consider squirrelmail pretty much dead at this point. No. it is not.

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 3/1/21 10:27 AM, Jay Hart wrote: Am 01.03.21 um 15:56 schrieb Simon Matter: On 3/1/21 2:57 PM, Simon Matter wrote: ... I was looking at Roundcube but it seems difficult on EL8 because a lot of PHP stuff is missing and not available as RPMs. I guess the same is true for the python

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Christopher Wensink
Jay, I agree, the last post on https://squirrelmail.org/ was an announcement for PHP 5.4 and 5.5 Compatibility  from 5/30/2013. The last plugin update was 3/28/2014.  I consider squirrelmail pretty much dead at this point. On 3/1/2021 10:27 AM, Jay Hart wrote: Am 01.03.21 um 15:56

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Jay Hart
>> Am 01.03.21 um 15:56 schrieb Simon Matter: On 3/1/21 2:57 PM, Simon Matter wrote: > ... > I was looking at Roundcube but it seems difficult on EL8 because a lot > of > PHP stuff is missing and not available as RPMs. I guess the same is > true > for the

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Simon Matter
> Am 01.03.21 um 15:56 schrieb Simon Matter: >>> >>> On 3/1/21 2:57 PM, Simon Matter wrote: ... I was looking at Roundcube but it seems difficult on EL8 because a lot of PHP stuff is missing and not available as RPMs. I guess the same is true for the python things

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Christopher Wensink
Per the docs, the nextcloud back end is required: https://github.com/nextcloud/mail#readme On 3/1/2021 9:19 AM, Simon Matter wrote: Has anyone tried the NextCloud Mail client?  The UI looks pretty nice, but I have not played with it: https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/mail Chris Hi Chris, I

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Am 01.03.21 um 15:56 schrieb Simon Matter: On 3/1/21 2:57 PM, Simon Matter wrote: ... I was looking at Roundcube but it seems difficult on EL8 because a lot of PHP stuff is missing and not available as RPMs. I guess the same is true for the python things needed for Mailpile. In the end my list

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Simon Matter
> Has anyone tried the NextCloud Mail client?  The UI looks pretty nice, > but I have not played with it: https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/mail > > Chris Hi Chris, I have bit tried it but I'm wondering if the mail app can we used standalone without the nextcloud backend? And since it's based on

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Christopher Wensink
Has anyone tried the NextCloud Mail client?  The UI looks pretty nice, but I have not played with it: https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/mail Chris On 3/1/2021 8:47 AM, Simon Matter wrote: Hi Simon, we used to use Squirrelmail also, but have since migrated to RoundCube. It's easy enough to

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Simon Matter
> > On 3/1/21 2:57 PM, Simon Matter wrote: >> ... >> I was looking at Roundcube but it seems difficult on EL8 because a lot >> of >> PHP stuff is missing and not available as RPMs. I guess the same is true >> for the python things needed for Mailpile. In the end my list only >> contains Cypht,

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Simon Matter
> Hi Simon, we used to use Squirrelmail also, but have since migrated to > RoundCube. It's easy enough to install on a CentOS 7 server (we don't > use EL8) by downloading directly from the Roundcube website and > following the installation instructions. The interface is clean, modern, > and the

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Thomas Mueller
On 3/1/21 2:57 PM, Simon Matter wrote: ... I was looking at Roundcube but it seems difficult on EL8 because a lot of PHP stuff is missing and not available as RPMs. I guess the same is true for the python things needed for Mailpile. In the end my list only contains Cypht, Rainloop and

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Blake Hudson
Hi Simon, we used to use Squirrelmail also, but have since migrated to RoundCube. It's easy enough to install on a CentOS 7 server (we don't use EL8) by downloading directly from the Roundcube website and following the installation instructions. The interface is clean, modern, and the project

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Simon Matter
> Hi Simon, > > I'm sure you must have noticed, but just to be clear: your aging C7 > system has more life in it than a C8 system. C8 dies this December, C7 > is projected to 30/6/24. > Martin Hi Martin, thanks for the hint. Yes, I'm aware of it. With EL6 and EL7 I mean CentOS6/7 but with EL8 I

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread J Martin Rushton via CentOS
Hi Simon, I'm sure you must have noticed, but just to be clear: your aging C7 system has more life in it than a C8 system. C8 dies this December, C7 is projected to 30/6/24. Martin On 01/03/2021 13:57, Simon Matter wrote: Hi all, I'm still trying to find solutions to replace some aging

[CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Simon Matter
Hi all, I'm still trying to find solutions to replace some aging EL6 and EL7 systems. This time I'm looking at email. Postfix and Cyrus-IMAPd are not a problem and also additional things like DKIM are fine. However, I'm wondering what to use to replace good old squirrelmail with. We had a