Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-04 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
2010/2/2 Rafał Radecki radecki.ra...@gmail.com: I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one of the following options: I am very happy with XenServer in our data centre. Use qemu for testing / devel purposes. Ben ___

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Rainer Traut
Am 03.02.2010 00:07, schrieb Kwan Lowe: KVM ... back-end storage for the VMs so you can do snapshot backups. I'm awaiting support for memory de-duplication on the host side as this can really help cram more VMs into a box (my workloads are very light on memory/cpu but libraries/packages

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Arun Khan
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.cawrote: just to clarify, you're saying that KVM requires H/W virtualization support, either VT-x or AMD-V, yes? because at this point, i don't think that really qualifies as special hardware anymore, it's pretty common.

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 10:14:50AM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: On Wednesday, February 03, 2010 12:43 AM, John R Pierce wrote: Rafa? Radecki wrote: Hi All. I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one of the following options: - KVM; - VMWare Esxi;

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread a arias
Over the last year I have worked with Xen, KVM, VMware ESX and Sun VirtualBox. VirtualBox is my recommendation, hands down. On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi wrote: On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 10:14:50AM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: On Wednesday, February 03, 2010

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/3/2010 1:19 PM, a arias wrote: Over the last year I have worked with Xen, KVM, VMware ESX and Sun VirtualBox. VirtualBox is my recommendation, hands down. Virtualbox has the unique advantage of having a free version that can run on intel Macs. I can't think of anything else that makes

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Max Hetrick
a arias wrote: Over the last year I have worked with Xen, KVM, VMware ESX and Sun VirtualBox. VirtualBox is my recommendation, hands down. I think this is too vague of a opinion on virtualization use. I think it depends on what you're doing with it. VirtualBox is a nice piece of software for

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Rob Kampen
Max Hetrick wrote: a arias wrote: Over the last year I have worked with Xen, KVM, VMware ESX and Sun VirtualBox. VirtualBox is my recommendation, hands down. I think this is too vague of a opinion on virtualization use. I think it depends on what you're doing with it. VirtualBox is

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Max Hetrick maxhetr...@verizon.net wrote: a arias wrote: Over the last year I have worked with Xen, KVM, VMware ESX and Sun VirtualBox. VirtualBox is my recommendation, hands down. I think this is too vague of a opinion on virtualization use. I think it

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, February 04, 2010 01:52 AM, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 10:14:50AM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: On Wednesday, February 03, 2010 12:43 AM, John R Pierce wrote: Rafa? Radecki wrote: Hi All. I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread David McGuffey
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 11:51 -0500, Max Hetrick wrote: Bobby wrote: Odd, for some time I have had USB support with Sun's Virtualbox. It was a problem at some point but works fine here (Using Fedora 11). I'm pretty sure I watched a USB CAM on XP (as a VM client) a while ago. Well,

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-03 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:20 AM, David McGuffey wrote: On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 11:51 -0500, Max Hetrick wrote: Bobby wrote: Odd, for some time I have had USB support with Sun's Virtualbox. It was a problem at some point but works fine here (Using Fedora 11). I'm pretty sure I

[CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Rafał Radecki
Hi All. I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one of the following options: - KVM; - VMWare Esxi; - VMWare Workstation. I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something like LVM snapshots for backups. Stability is also very important, the

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Victor Padro
2010/2/2 Rafał Radecki radecki.ra...@gmail.com: Hi All. I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one of the following options: - KVM; - VMWare Esxi; - VMWare Workstation. I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something like LVM snapshots

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Lorenzo Quatrini
Rafał Radecki ha scritto: Hi All. I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one of the following options: - KVM; - VMWare Esxi; - VMWare Workstation. I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something like LVM snapshots for backups.

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 07:05:59AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Victor Padro wrote: You can only install KVM or VMWare Workstation/Server in CentOS, I think you should try KVM, because it's opensource and it supports Windows but you need special hardware like the

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Victor Padro
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:05 AM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Victor Padro wrote: You can only install KVM or VMWare Workstation/Server in CentOS, I think you should try KVM, because it's opensource and it supports Windows but you need special hardware like

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Les Mikesell
Rafa? Radecki wrote: Hi All. I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one of the following options: - KVM; - VMWare Esxi; - VMWare Workstation. I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something like LVM snapshots for backups. Stability

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Jake Shipton
On 02/02/10 11:20, Rafał Radecki wrote: Hi All. I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one of the following options: - KVM; - VMWare Esxi; - VMWare Workstation. I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something like LVM snapshots for

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Max Hetrick
Jake Shipton wrote: Hi, Personally, I'd recommend VMware Workstation. Always been good for me, however lately I have been trying out Virtualbox (PUEL) :-). They have an Open Source Edition also (Virtualbox), only it lacks USB Support. If you go on there website, you can see the 3 missing

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread John R Pierce
Rafa? Radecki wrote: Hi All. I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one of the following options: - KVM; - VMWare Esxi; - VMWare Workstation. I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something like LVM snapshots for backups. Stability

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Bobby
On Tuesday 02 February 2010 11:08:21 Max Hetrick wrote: There is a work around for USB support on Linux for VirtualBox, where VMware works a bit better with USB. Odd, for some time I have had USB support with Sun's Virtualbox. It was a problem at some point but works fine here (Using Fedora

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Max Hetrick
Bobby wrote: Odd, for some time I have had USB support with Sun's Virtualbox. It was a problem at some point but works fine here (Using Fedora 11). I'm pretty sure I watched a USB CAM on XP (as a VM client) a while ago. Well, it's supported and works, however, you have to remount usbfs

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Bobby
On Tuesday 02 February 2010 11:51:43 Max Hetrick wrote: Bobby wrote: Odd, for some time I have had USB support with Sun's Virtualbox. It was a problem at some point but works fine here (Using Fedora 11). I'm pretty sure I watched a USB CAM on XP (as a VM client) a while ago. Well, it's

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/2/2010 10:43 AM, John R Pierce wrote: I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one of the following options: - KVM; - VMWare Esxi; - VMWare Workstation. I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something like LVM snapshots for backups.

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Greg Bailey
Les Mikesell wrote: I have to agree that ESXi is better, but I've had VMware server running for years (mostly 1.x versions on CentOS 3.x, but also some CentOS 5.x and VMware 2.x) with no surprises other than jumpy clocks. The servers have sometimes been shut down for power work but I've

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/2/2010 11:09 AM, Greg Bailey wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: I have to agree that ESXi is better, but I've had VMware server running for years (mostly 1.x versions on CentOS 3.x, but also some CentOS 5.x and VMware 2.x) with no surprises other than jumpy clocks. The servers have sometimes

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Tom Bishop
So I have tried and used most, I am anxious to see redhats next version of KVM stuff that will make it into rhel 6, whenever that is, once the management tools on LINUX catch up I will be moving towards that. I am currently using vmware server 2 on centos 5.4 and while there were some issues

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Kwan Lowe
2010/2/2 Rafał Radecki radecki.ra...@gmail.com: Hi All. I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one of the following options: - KVM; - VMWare Esxi; - VMWare Workstation. I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something like LVM snapshots

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread William Warren
On 2/2/2010 6:20 AM, Rafa? Radecki wrote: Hi All. I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one of the following options: - KVM; - VMWare Esxi; - VMWare Workstation. I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want to use something like LVM snapshots for

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, February 03, 2010 12:43 AM, John R Pierce wrote: Rafa? Radecki wrote: Hi All. I plan to use virtualization in my production environment. I plan to use one of the following options: - KVM; - VMWare Esxi; - VMWare Workstation. I plan to install Windows 2008 as a guest. I want

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization - what do You recommend?

2010-02-02 Thread Geoff Galitz
Xen From the CentOS side it's very similar to KVM if you use the virt tools. Performance is extremely good with paravirtualized machines. It's a workhorse and quite stable, but the GUI is not so great. Networking is a bear to configure. Requires separate kernel. I've never quite gotten