Re: [CentOS] compilers a security risk?

2010-07-20 Thread Nifty Cluster Mitch
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 07:34:14AM -0700, Warren Young wrote: On 3/6/2010 4:04 PM, nate wrote: if you can upload source code, you can upload a precompiled binary True, but most attacks are automated, and try to attack as wide a range of machines as possible. If I were to write a bit

Re: [CentOS] compilers a security risk?

2010-03-11 Thread Mike McCarty
Dave Stevens wrote: I manage a web hosting server that we've recently upgraded, in part so we could accommodate a domain that will enable community mapping. In a recent exchange of mails one developer said: I could build the package directly on the server machine you have, provided

Re: [CentOS] compilers a security risk?

2010-03-08 Thread Warren Young
On 3/6/2010 4:04 PM, nate wrote: if you can upload source code, you can upload a precompiled binary True, but most attacks are automated, and try to attack as wide a range of machines as possible. If I were to write a bit of malware for *ix that needed a custom binary on the target machine,

Re: [CentOS] compilers a security risk?

2010-03-08 Thread m . roth
On 3/6/2010 4:04 PM, nate wrote: if you can upload source code, you can upload a precompiled binary True, but most attacks are automated, and try to attack as wide a range of machines as possible. If I were to write a bit of malware for *ix that needed a custom binary on the target

Re: [CentOS] compilers a security risk?

2010-03-08 Thread Dave Stevens
On Sunday 07 March 2010 09:54:23 am Les Mikesell and MANY others wrote: While I typically do have the compilers and kernel headers installed on general purpose servers where I might want to run VMware server or rebuild a source rpm, I would not be very comfortable if I did not have a

Re: [CentOS] compilers a security risk?

2010-03-07 Thread Drew
I don't have enough experience to assess the security issues. Does anyone have an opinion on this? It would be simple and feasible to allocate another domain as suggested above. As was stated by others the compiler itself isn't any more of a security risk then any other tool. If a hacker can

Re: [CentOS] compilers a security risk?

2010-03-07 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com wrote: I manage a web hosting server that we've recently upgraded, in part so we could accommodate a domain that will enable community mapping. In a recent exchange of mails one developer said: I could build the package directly

Re: [CentOS] compilers a security risk?

2010-03-07 Thread Geoff Galitz
As was stated by others the compiler itself isn't any more of a security risk then any other tool. If a hacker can get root he can just as easily upload binary packages as he can compile source. It is still a wise decision to not have the compiler installed if it can be avoided. Any hacker

Re: [CentOS] compilers a security risk?

2010-03-07 Thread nate
Geoff Galitz wrote: Making the bar higher, even in little increments, is a basic tenant of systems security. Never dismiss the power of baby steps. Keep in mind diminishing returns with those baby steps.. Of the ~500-600 systems I've worked on over the past 10 years the only ones that were

Re: [CentOS] compilers a security risk?

2010-03-07 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 07 March 2010 03:35:43 pm nate wrote: The servers I manage for my employer receive roughly 2 billion web hits per day. 2 billion per day? That's 20 000 hits per second, on average. How many servers do you actually have behind load-balancers to deal with this kind of activity? And

Re: [CentOS] compilers a security risk?

2010-03-07 Thread Les Mikesell
Kwan Lowe wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com wrote: I manage a web hosting server that we've recently upgraded, in part so we could accommodate a domain that will enable community mapping. In a recent exchange of mails one developer said: I could build the

Re: [CentOS] compilers a security risk?

2010-03-07 Thread JohnS
On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 17:24 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sunday 07 March 2010 03:35:43 pm nate wrote: The servers I manage for my employer receive roughly 2 billion web hits per day. 2 billion per day? That's 20 000 hits per second, on average. How many servers do you actually

[CentOS] compilers a security risk?

2010-03-06 Thread Dave Stevens
I manage a web hosting server that we've recently upgraded, in part so we could accommodate a domain that will enable community mapping. In a recent exchange of mails one developer said: I could build the package directly on the server machine you have, provided that the potential security

Re: [CentOS] compilers a security risk?

2010-03-06 Thread nate
Dave Stevens wrote: I don't have enough experience to assess the security issues. Does anyone have an opinion on this? It would be simple and feasible to allocate another domain as suggested above. Unless your running an obscure platform having a compiler on the system shouldn't be a big

Re: [CentOS] compilers a security risk?

2010-03-06 Thread Jim Perrin
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com wrote: I don't have enough experience to assess the security issues. Does anyone have an opinion on this? It would be simple and feasible to allocate another domain as suggested above. The compilers themselves aren't really a