Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-04 Thread Stephen Harris
On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 02:28:23PM +0100, James Pearson wrote: easily set up. Some of the nice things about NIS on Linux are: It is fairly simple to set up Comes with built in server redundancy and failover Has simple server load balancing built in Very lightweight on the client It's

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-04 Thread James Pearson
Iain Morris wrote: And NIS servers belong in a museum! :-) Although NIS has a number of issues against it - it still has some pretty good things going for it. If you are on a private network and security is not a high priority, then NIS is something that can be easily set up. Some of the

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-03 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 21:52 -0700, Iain Morris wrote: On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: This discussion completely ignores the fact that user authentication is just one of the many things

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-03 Thread John Jasen
Iain Morris wrote: On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com mailto:craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: This discussion completely ignores the fact that user authentication is just one of the many things LDAP does. If all you are going to do with

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-02 Thread aurf alien
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Ross Walker rswwal...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Boris Epstein borepst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello listmates, I have discovered a very strange SFTP problem which I can not connect to anything but NIS thus far. See here:

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-02 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:46 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Stephen Harris wrote: On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 04:22:58PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: And I'd at *least* go to NIS+. openLDAP is an unbelievable pain, but Nobody in their right mind uses NIS+.  Even Sun have stopped it. When I did

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-02 Thread Iain Morris
No one seems to like AD. I actually find it to be fairly manageable compared to stock LDAP/Kerberos. The management tools blow OpenLDAP out of the water. I laugh at myself saying it, but if you want simple management of a big installation, AD is pretty dang tested these days and it's not hard to

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-02 Thread Stephen Harris
No one seems to like AD. I actually find it to be fairly manageable compared to stock LDAP/Kerberos. The management tools blow OpenLDAP out of the water. I laugh at myself saying it, but if you want simple management of a big installation, AD is pretty dang tested these days and it's not

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-02 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Iain Morris iain.t.mor...@gmail.com wrote: No one seems to like AD. I actually find it to be fairly manageable compared to stock LDAP/Kerberos. The management tools blow OpenLDAP out of the water. I laugh at myself saying it, but if you want simple management of

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-02 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 21:40 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Iain Morris iain.t.mor...@gmail.com wrote: No one seems to like AD. I actually find it to be fairly manageable compared to stock LDAP/Kerberos. The management tools blow OpenLDAP out of the water. I laugh at

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-02 Thread Iain Morris
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: This discussion completely ignores the fact that user authentication is just one of the many things LDAP does. If all you are going to do with LDAP is simple user group management then you have a lack of

[CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread Boris Epstein
Hello listmates, I have discovered a very strange SFTP problem which I can not connect to anything but NIS thus far. See here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/sftp-seems-to-fail-for-nis-accounts-under-openssh-5-x-816020/

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread Ben McGinnes
On 2/10/10 4:27 AM, Boris Epstein wrote: Hello listmates, I have discovered a very strange SFTP problem which I can not connect to anything but NIS thus far. See here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/sftp-seems-to-fail-for-nis-accounts-under-openssh-5-x-816020/

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread Don Krause
On Oct 1, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Ben McGinnes wrote: On 2/10/10 4:27 AM, Boris Epstein wrote: Hello listmates, I have discovered a very strange SFTP problem which I can not connect to anything but NIS thus far. See here:

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread Jason Pyeron
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Don Krause Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 15:40 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS? On Oct 1, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Ben McGinnes wrote

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread James Pearson
Boris Epstein wrote: Hello listmates, I have discovered a very strange SFTP problem which I can not connect to anything but NIS thus far. See here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/sftp-seems-to-fail-for-nis-accounts-under-openssh-5-x-816020/

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread Mike VanHorn
On 10/1/10 2:27 PM, Boris Epstein borepst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello listmates, I have discovered a very strange SFTP problem which I can not connect to anything but NIS thus far. See here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/sftp-seems-to-fail-for

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread Kaplan, Andrew H.
many people still use NIS? On 2/10/10 4:27 AM, Boris Epstein wrote: Hello listmates, I have discovered a very strange SFTP problem which I can not connect to anything but NIS thus far. See here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/sftp-seems-to-fail-for-n is-accounts-under

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread m . roth
James Pearson wrote: Boris Epstein wrote: Hello listmates, I have discovered a very strange SFTP problem which I can not connect to anything but NIS thus far. See here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/sftp-seems-to-fail-for-nis-accounts-under-openssh-5-x-816020/

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread Stephen Harris
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 04:22:58PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: And I'd at *least* go to NIS+. openLDAP is an unbelievable pain, but Nobody in their right mind uses NIS+. Even Sun have stopped it. When I did Solaris 2.4 training NIS+ took 2 chapters of the manual. When I did Solaris 9

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread m . roth
Stephen Harris wrote: On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 04:22:58PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: And I'd at *least* go to NIS+. openLDAP is an unbelievable pain, but Nobody in their right mind uses NIS+. Even Sun have stopped it. When I did Solaris 2.4 training NIS+ took 2 chapters of the manual.

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread Boris Epstein
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:46 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Stephen Harris wrote: On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 04:22:58PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: And I'd at *least* go to NIS+. openLDAP is an unbelievable pain, but Nobody in their right mind uses NIS+. Even Sun have stopped it. When

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread m . roth
Boris Epstein wrote: On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:46 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Stephen Harris wrote: On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 04:22:58PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: snip When I did Solaris 9 training it took 2 sentences. Yes, NIS+ may be more secure than NIS, but it's a FPOS to use

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 16:46 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: *shrug* I've never used it. Trust me, openLDAP is a royal PITA, but with AD as an alternative well AD *is* LDAP but it has many other services/requirements beyond LDAP. As for OpenLDAP being a royal PITA, I suppose that's a

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread m . roth
Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 16:46 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: *shrug* I've never used it. Trust me, openLDAP is a royal PITA, but with AD as an alternative well AD *is* LDAP but it has many other services/requirements beyond LDAP. As for OpenLDAP being a royal

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread Steve Thompson
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Craig White wrote: As for OpenLDAP being a royal PITA, I suppose that's a matter of perspective because I've been using it for at least 7 years now and it works for me without any problems whatsoever. Agreed. I have found that LDAP, in the guise of OpenLDAP, is not very

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread aurfalien
On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Steve Thompson wrote: On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Craig White wrote: As for OpenLDAP being a royal PITA, I suppose that's a matter of perspective because I've been using it for at least 7 years now and it works for me without any problems whatsoever. Agreed. I have

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread Stephen Harris
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 05:16:49PM -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: Agreed. I have found that LDAP, in the guise of OpenLDAP, is not very difficult at all once you have done your first setup, providing, as Craig says, you take the time to understand why you're doing what you're doing and you

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 02:47:09PM -0700, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Steve Thompson wrote: On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Craig White wrote: As for OpenLDAP being a royal PITA, I suppose that's a matter of perspective because I've been using it for at least 7 years

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread aurfalien
On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote: On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 02:47:09PM -0700, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Steve Thompson wrote: On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Craig White wrote: As for OpenLDAP being a royal PITA, I suppose that's a matter of perspective

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread Don Krause
On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote: On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 02:47:09PM -0700, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Steve Thompson wrote: On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Craig White wrote: As for OpenLDAP being a royal PITA, I suppose that's a matter of perspective

Re: [CentOS] how many people still use NIS?

2010-10-01 Thread Ross Walker
On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Boris Epstein borepst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello listmates, I have discovered a very strange SFTP problem which I can not connect to anything but NIS thus far. See here: