Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-27 Thread Beartooth
On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 10:29:39 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: hah. Last year, I got my wife a USB backup drive, and set it up for her laptop. showed her how to plug it in and start the backup program while she was doing other stuff (this is a Windows laptop). few months later, I ask hows the

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-26 Thread m . roth
Gordon Messmer wrote: On 12/22/2010 11:39 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Right, which AFAIK, doesn't work with the new US federal PIV-II cards. Certainly, I can't add the card when it's inserted in the reader with just that. OK. Well, that's more or less what I meant when I asked if there was

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-26 Thread Frank Cox
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 15:57:44 -0500 m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: About 20 years old: back up my hard drive? Where's the reverse switch? Several years ago I wrote a database for a business and put a backup data option on the main menu. As a kind of a joke while writing it I played a beep beep beep

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-25 Thread Beartooth
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 08:40:48 -0800, Paul Heinlein wrote: [] I too suspect that *among desktop/laptop users* she's more likely to find Ubuntu assistance than RHEL/CentOS/Fedora assistance. It's not a certainty by any means, but I agree it's likely. My only bit of unsolicited

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-25 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/25/10 10:11 AM, Beartooth wrote: The problem will be persuading her to take any interest beyond knowing that *I* have some backup for her, somewhere ... (I always do one before an upgrade -- and upgrade her machine last, in order to have seen most common problems before I get to

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 25 December 2010 18:11:00 Beartooth wrote: We have a couple of external USB hard drives, and one at least has a partition backing up her specific machine. I'll try to think up a good name (or get her to!) and see if I can change that partition to that. The

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-25 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 18:40:26 + Anne Wilson wrote: The rest is done by rsync + cron - and I set cron to run quite frequently, because she doensn't really have regular hours for using it, so whenever she works, she is pretty well bound to hit one of the backup spots If you put it into

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-25 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 25.12.2010 19:55, schrieb Frank Cox: On Sat, 25 Dec 2010 18:40:26 + Anne Wilson wrote: The rest is done by rsync + cron - and I set cron to run quite frequently, because she doensn't really have regular hours for using it, so whenever she works, she is pretty well bound to hit one

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-25 Thread Beartooth
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 22:58:21 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: Hello, Beartooth. Hi, Paul! If you're the same guy I know from several electronic places, I'm glad to hear from you. And incidentally, the address I post from is valid, and I check it several times a day. I have given this a

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-23 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Beartooth bearto...@comcast.net wrote: She's far more likely to outlive me than I her; so I want to install something requiring a lot less maintenance on her machine, so that she'll have it and be used to it,

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/21/2010 10:49 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Gordon Messmer wrote: On 12/17/2010 12:32 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Not with PIV-II cards Why? Do they use a non-standard SSH agent? pkcs11. opensc. NOT COOLKEY. I'm not really sure what that has to do with anything. You said that

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-22 Thread m . roth
Gordon Messmer wrote: On 12/21/2010 10:49 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Gordon Messmer wrote: On 12/17/2010 12:32 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Not with PIV-II cards Why? Do they use a non-standard SSH agent? pkcs11. opensc. NOT COOLKEY. I'm not really sure what that has to do with

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Beartooth bearto...@comcast.net wrote:        She's far more likely to outlive me than I her; so I want to install something requiring a lot less maintenance on her machine, so that she'll have it and be used to it, years ahead of need.        I'm thinking

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/22/2010 11:39 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Right, which AFAIK, doesn't work with the new US federal PIV-II cards. Certainly, I can't add the card when it's inserted in the reader with just that. OK. Well, that's more or less what I meant when I asked if there was something non-standard.

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/17/2010 12:32 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Not with PIV-II cards Why? Do they use a non-standard SSH agent? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-21 Thread m . roth
Gordon Messmer wrote: On 12/17/2010 12:32 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Not with PIV-II cards Why? Do they use a non-standard SSH agent? pkcs11. opensc. NOT COOLKEY. Trying to use a current version of openssh, opensc, and openct that my manager built it 100% repeatably tries to use

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-21 Thread Beartooth
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 01:11:49 +0800, Guenther Boelter wrote: On 12/18/2010 01:04 AM, Beartooth wrote: I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- and I'm the nearest (distant) thing there is to tech support. What's wrong with Fedora in that case, what do you think is

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-21 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Beartooth bearto...@comcast.net wrote:        I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- and I'm the nearest (distant) thing there is to tech support. I totally can identify the horror /me nods head        She's far more likely

[CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread Beartooth
I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- and I'm the nearest (distant) thing there is to tech support. She's far more likely to outlive me than I her; so I want to install something requiring a lot less maintenance on her machine, so that she'll have it

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread Guenther Boelter
On 12/18/2010 01:04 AM, Beartooth wrote: I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- and I'm the nearest (distant) thing there is to tech support. What's wrong with Fedora in that case, what do you think is the benefit of using CentOS instead?

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/17/10 11:11 AM, Guenther Boelter wrote: On 12/18/2010 01:04 AM, Beartooth wrote: I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- and I'm the nearest (distant) thing there is to tech support. What's wrong with Fedora in that case, what do you think is the benefit of

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010, Les Mikesell wrote: On 12/17/10 11:11 AM, Guenther Boelter wrote: On 12/18/2010 01:04 AM, Beartooth wrote: I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- and I'm the nearest (distant) thing there is to tech support. What's wrong with Fedora in that

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread David Sommerseth
On 17/12/10 18:24, Scott Robbins wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 01:11:49AM +0800, Guenther Boelter wrote: On 12/18/2010 01:04 AM, Beartooth wrote: I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- and I'm the nearest (distant) thing there is to tech support. What's wrong with

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread Guenther Boelter
On 12/18/2010 01:24 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 01:11:49AM +0800, Guenther Boelter wrote: On 12/18/2010 01:04 AM, Beartooth wrote: I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- and I'm the nearest (distant) thing there is to tech support. What's wrong

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread m . roth
David Sommerseth wrote: On 17/12/10 18:24, Scott Robbins wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 01:11:49AM +0800, Guenther Boelter wrote: On 12/18/2010 01:04 AM, Beartooth wrote: I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- and I'm the nearest (distant) thing there is to tech

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/17/2010 10:11 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: FC14 *seems* to be a bit more stable, though right now, I'm fighting to try to get ssh-agent working correctly on it - just did a full update, and now it starts it on login... but doesn't stop it on logout, and doesn't pass the environment

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread m . roth
Gordon Messmer wrote: On 12/17/2010 10:11 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: FC14 *seems* to be a bit more stable, though right now, I'm fighting to try to get ssh-agent working correctly on it - just did a full update, and now it starts it on login... but doesn't stop it on logout, and doesn't pass

Re: [CentOS] Moving from Fedora -- Advice??

2010-12-17 Thread David G. Mackay
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 18:38 +0100, David Sommerseth wrote: On 17/12/10 18:24, Scott Robbins wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 01:11:49AM +0800, Guenther Boelter wrote: On 12/18/2010 01:04 AM, Beartooth wrote: I'm running Fedora14 on all machines, including my wife's -- and I'm the