Re: [CF-metadata] Suggestion for standard names for bottom current and due to tides and Stokes drift

2019-11-13 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Hi John, I touched on this issue when the sea floor temperature and practical salinity names were set up. My understanding is that it does have a meaning which is the portion of the water column influenced by the seabed, sometimes termed the 'benthic boundary layer'. Oceanographers I've

Re: [CF-metadata] new variable name request

2019-10-03 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
amment Tel: +44 1235 778065 NCAS/Centre for Environmental Data AnalysisEmail: mailto:alison.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk STFC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory R25, 2.22 Harwell Oxford, Didcot, OX11 0QX, U.K. From: CF-metadata On Behalf Of Lowry, Roy K. Sent: 12 September 2019 19:59 To: cf-me

Re: [CF-metadata] new variable name request

2019-09-12 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
. Thanks - Nan On 9/10/19 1:59 PM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: > Hi again, > > I place great weight on the phrase 'where appropriate'. If a model > works out electrical conductivity and then uses the PSS-78 algorithms > to compute the salinity then using 'practical salinity' would b

Re: [CF-metadata] new variable name request

2019-09-12 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
ew > meters; do we need to > apply some limit to the distance? I'm thinking about the various > sea_surface_temperature > variants, surface_skin and surface_subskin, but I'm assuming this > isn't needed for sea > floor measurements. > > Thanks - Nan > > > On 9/

Re: [CF-metadata] new variable name request

2019-09-12 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
it think it was worth the ask if > they know. > > -Barna > > > On 2019-09-10, at 07:42, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: > > > > Dear Barna, > > > > Perhaps the existing Standard Name would suffice for Cathy's needs > as she is labelling model output and the models

Re: [CF-metadata] new variable name request

2019-09-10 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
retired but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address. From: Andrew Barna Sent: 10 September 2019 18:47 To: Lowry, Roy K. Cc: Cathy Smith ; CF Metadata List Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] new variable name request Thanks Roy

Re: [CF-metadata] new variable name request

2019-09-10 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Hi again, I have seen many examples of model output over the years where salinities have been tagged with the units of 'PSU' but I know for a fact that the source data used have been a mixture of PSS-78 and historical data that strictly speaking should be given units of ppt. I would counsel

Re: [CF-metadata] new variable name request

2019-09-10 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Barna, Perhaps the existing Standard Name would suffice for Cathy's needs as she is labelling model output and the models in my experience do not work to a specific measurement scale. This is because boundary condition and assimilation data sets can include measurements of more than one

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard_name of quality_flag for corresponding quality control variables

2019-07-27 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Ken, Having been involved in the quite painful process of weaning out data quality information from the host of status flag (often misnamed quality flag) schemes in oceanographic legacy data I would be very disappointed were 'quality_flag' not to be accepted as a Standard Name. If nothing

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard_name of quality_flag for corresponding quality control variables

2019-07-24 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Barna, I don't think legacy schemes that notoriously mix quality statements with other information are a problem. They would simply be labelled 'status_flag'. 'quality_flag' would be reserved for schemes with cleaner semantics. My understanding of the proposal does not change the meaning

Re: [CF-metadata] proposing two new standard names for H2S and N2 in sea water

2019-05-16 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
These look good to me. Cheers, Roy. I have now retired but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address. From: CF-metadata on behalf of Daniel Neumann Sent: 16 May 2019 10:29 To: CF Metadata Mail List Subject:

Re: [CF-metadata] Question to usage of standard_name sea_water_practical_salinity

2019-05-15 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Daniel, The value you should store is 35. There is much discussion in the CF archives on the various types of salinity and their units that is best not repeated. It may help your understanding to think of the reason practical salinity is dimensionless and has the canonical unit 1 as being

Re: [CF-metadata] Some standard name updates to improve consistency.

2019-04-24 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Martin, >From what I can see, the productivity Standard Name descriptions use the >phrase '"Productivity" means production per unit area'. Looking at the >canonical units productivity is moles_or_mass/m2/s, whereas production is >moles_or_mass/m3/s. This means that productivity is in fact

Re: [CF-metadata] New halocarbon standard name requests

2019-04-17 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Hi Alison, I have never used PubChem - I tend to use ChEBI - but reading around it seems a highly respected standard and I can find no valid argument against its use. Cheers, Roy. I have now retired but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address.

Re: [CF-metadata] New halocarbon standard name requests

2019-04-08 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
. From: CF-metadata on behalf of Lowry, Roy K. Sent: 08 April 2019 20:56 To: Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] New halocarbon standard name requests Hi Alison, You're right about hcc140a - I'd missed that because

Re: [CF-metadata] New halocarbon standard name requests

2019-04-08 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Tel: +44 1235 778065 NCAS/Centre for Environmental Data Analysis Email: alison.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk STFC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory R25, 2.22 Harwell Oxford, Didcot, OX11 0QX, U.K. From: CF-metadata On Behalf Of Lowry, Roy K. Sent:

Re: [CF-metadata] New halocarbon standard name requests

2019-04-02 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
March 2019 14:33 To: Lowry, Roy K.; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: New halocarbon standard name requests Apologies, can I also add the following: PFC-318 Standard name: mole_fraction_of_pfc318_in_air (Canonical unit: 1) Long name: 'Mole fraction is used in the construction

Re: [CF-metadata] New halocarbon standard name requests

2019-04-02 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Hi again, After bumping into one accidental duplicate, I thought I'd better check the first part of your submission more carefully and found 'mole_fraction_of_carbon_tetrachloride_in_air' (http://vocab.nerc.ac.uk/collection/P07/current/CFV8N16/) already exists, which I missed first time

Re: [CF-metadata] More trace gas standard names

2019-04-02 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Hi Dan, PFC-14 is already present as mole_fraction_of_carbon_tetrafluoride_in_air (http://vocab.nerc.ac.uk/collection/P07/current/GYGQPPOA/). Otherwise look fine. Cheers, Roy. I have now retired but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address.

Re: [CF-metadata] New halocarbon standard name requests

2019-03-29 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Thanks Dan, Nicely put together and I can't see any issues. Cheers, Roy. I have now retired but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address. From: CF-metadata on behalf of Dan Say Sent: 29 March 2019 13:11 To:

Re: [CF-metadata] Addition of HFC standard names

2019-03-13 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
! Cheers, Roy. I have now retired but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address. From: David Hassell Sent: 13 March 2019 11:18 To: Lowry, Roy K. Cc: Klaus Zimmermann; CF Metadata Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Addition

Re: [CF-metadata] Addition of HFC standard names

2019-03-13 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
by its common name, HFC-32. > > > Standard name: mole_fraction_of_trifluoromethane_in_air > > Long name: mole_fraction_of_trifluoromethane_in_air > > Definition: Mole fraction is used in the construction > mole_fraction_of_X_in_Y, where X is a material constituent of Y. > Trifluoromethane

Re: [CF-metadata] Addition of HFC standard names

2019-03-13 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
t of Y. > Difluoromethane is described by its common name, HFC-32. > > > Standard name: mole_fraction_of_trifluoromethane_in_air > > Long name: mole_fraction_of_trifluoromethane_in_air > > Definition: Mole fraction is used in the construction > mole_fraction_of_X_in_Y, where X is a material

Re: [CF-metadata] Addition of HFC standard names

2019-03-12 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
March 2019 16:59 To: Lowry, Roy K.; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: Addition of HFC standard names Hi Roy, Would it make more sense to leave the standard name as suggested, but replace 'hfc134a' with '1,1,1,2-tetrafluoroethane' in the long name, for simplicity? This is my first venture

Re: [CF-metadata] Addition of HFC standard names

2019-03-12 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Dan, I think it would be better to have the IUPAC names somewhere (e.g. 1,1,1,2-tetrafluoroethane for hfc134a if Wikipedia is correct) in the Standard Name entry. I'd be happy with it in the definition but would not object to it being in the Standard Name itself. Cheers, Roy. I have

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name for 14CO2

2019-02-20 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
ddle of it, I think. Yes, it would be good to hear an authoritative view on whether there is more than one standard in use. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Lowry, Roy K." - > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 15:24:06 + > From: &quo

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name for 14CO2

2019-02-16 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
n authoritative view on whether there is more than one standard in use. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Lowry, Roy K." - > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 15:24:06 + > From: "Lowry, Roy K." > To: Jonathan Gregory , "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu&quo

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name for 14CO2

2019-02-15 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
--- > >> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 14:31:58 + >> From: "Robert M. Key" >> To: Katherine Pugsley >> CC: "Lowry, Roy K." , Jonathan Gregory >> , "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" >> >> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata]

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name for 14CO2

2019-02-15 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
ust because one had a small d where the other > had a big D. If we ever need the small-delta version we can put small_delta. > > Best wishes > > Jonathan > > - Forwarded message from "Robert M. Key" - > >> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 14:31:58 + &g

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name for 14CO2

2019-02-15 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
small_delta. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Robert M. Key" - > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 14:31:58 + > From: "Robert M. Key" > To: Katherine Pugsley > CC: "Lowry, Roy K." , Jonathan Gregory >, "cf-metadata@cgd.uc

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name for 14CO2

2019-02-13 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
ated in this diagram along with the Radiocarbon age in years BP (Before 1950 AD). www.c14dating.com I have now retired but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address. From: Katherine Pugsley Sent: 13 February 2019 08:35 T

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name for 14CO2

2019-02-12 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
to know what this means: > The sample ratio is normalised to – 25 per mil delta13C (to correct for > isotopic fractionation). (although I understand Roy's remark that it doesn't affect the definition). Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Lowry, Roy K." - >

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name for 14CO2

2019-02-11 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
address. From: Katherine Pugsley Sent: 11 February 2019 14:33 To: Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC; Lowry, Roy K.; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name for 14CO2 Hi All, Thank you, Roy, Jonathon and Alison, for your feedback

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name for 14CO2

2019-02-11 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
, because there appear to be variou quantities with big and small delta and D, and maybe they are all different, and would need distinct standard names. I think Roy is right that we have not given standard names to such quantities before. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Lowry,

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard name for 14CO2

2019-02-08 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
I think that delta-14CO2 is not the same thing as the mole fraction. Rather, it is an expression of isotopic enrichment/depletion with respect to a standard. Whilst I have no experience of atmospheric 14C, I have come across delta notation a lot with other isotopes in geology and oceanography

Re: [CF-metadata] CMIP6 Confusion regarding carbon flux units

2019-01-31 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Chris, The embedding of semantics in units of measure is something I have fought against for decades, largely because software agent AI algorithms are unlikely to look for them there. Your suggestion is also something that would never get past the guardians of UDUNITS. However, I can

[CF-metadata] Fw: [CF Metadata] #160: Proposal to use GitHub instead of trac

2018-12-13 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
I have now retired but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address. From: Lowry, Roy K. Sent: 13 December 2018 18:31 To: cf-metadata-ow...@lists.llnl.gov Subject: Re: [CF Metadata] #160: Proposal to use GitHub instead

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard names for Dissolved Inorganic Nitrogen and Particulate Organic Nitrogen

2018-12-10 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
December 2018 16:19 To: Lowry, Roy K.; Daniel Neumann; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: RE: [CF-metadata] New standard names for Dissolved Inorganic Nitrogen and Particulate Organic Nitrogen Dear Daniel and Roy, Thank you, Daniel, for proposing two new standard names. I agree with Roy that they

Re: [CF-metadata] Sea water temperature anomaly standard name

2018-12-05 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
. From: Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal Sent: 05 December 2018 14:35 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Cc: Lowry, Roy K. Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Sea water temperature anomaly standard name Interesting. Look at the archive around April 4, 2016. I was requesting a standard way

Re: [CF-metadata] Sea water temperature anomaly standard name

2018-12-05 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Hello Simon, If you look at the definition for ocean_mixed_layer_thickness_defined_by_temperature you will get a better understanding about what sea_water_temperature_difference is about. It is an auxiliary co-ordinate variable used to specify the temperature change that defines the base of

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard names for Dissolved Inorganic Nitrogen and Particulate Organic Nitrogen

2018-11-25 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Hi Daniel, These look straightforward to me and would be a useful addition. Cheers, Roy. I have now retired but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address. From: CF-metadata on behalf of Daniel Neumann Sent: 22

Re: [CF-metadata] [CF-metadar ata] [EXTERNAL] 'months since' and 'years since' time units

2018-10-26 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Dave, I see no problem with CF incorporating external standards such as UDUNITS providing that standard is adequately maintained (e.g. addition of new concepts) and supported by its governance through the provision of tools. In my opinion UDUNITS governance makes the grade. Indeed, it

Re: [CF-metadata] 'months since' and 'years since' time units

2018-10-18 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Jeff, I see a possibility for confusion here. Whilst the meaning of 'month' as 30 days is well understood within the 360-day calendar community, others from outside that community could easily use 'months since' expecting it to mean 365.242198781/12. Would it be possible to use a more

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-10-07 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Alison, I have read through the definitions and can see no errors. As always when doing this, one sees possible 'improvements' but these are not critical and so are best kept to myself or we will never reach end game with this proposal. Cheers, Roy. I have now retired but will

Re: [CF-metadata] New name: fugacity of CO2

2018-10-05 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear All, I'm happy with James's updated sentence. It says the same thing but is clearer. Once the fCO2 name has been added we could consider using it to upgrade other partial pressure definitions. I think the last sentence is there to conform to a definition pattern that includes some less

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-10-03 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Jim, Currents are measured by attaching one or more current meters along a rope suspended in the water body known as the mooring. Established practice is to call the current meters the instruments and the mooring the platform. As current meters have developed, some have been fitted with

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-10-03 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Hi Alison, I'll give these a final careful read through early next week. Cheers, Roy. I have now retired but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address. From: CF-metadata on behalf of Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC

Re: [CF-metadata] Spectral wave direction spread parameter

2018-09-28 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
of Lowry, Roy K. Sent: 28 September 2018 15:05 To: Jonathan Gregory; Rob Thomas Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Spectral wave direction spread parameter Dear Jonathan, I seem to remember the 'what is spread' discussion coming up last time we encountered wave directional

Re: [CF-metadata] Spectral wave direction spread parameter

2018-09-28 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Jonathan, I seem to remember the 'what is spread' discussion coming up last time we encountered wave directional spread Standard Names. The Standard Name sea_surface_wave_directional_spread has the definition: Directional spread is the (one-sided) directional width within a given

Re: [CF-metadata] New name: fugacity of CO2

2018-09-20 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Paul, I'm pretty sure the Canonical Unit should be Pascal, as with the existing partial pressure Standard Names. Note that this doesn't mean the data need to be in Pascals, it is just a way of expressing dimensionality in terms of SI. There is a field for the actual units of measure in

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-09-20 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Do others support the idea of having triplets of names in this way? > > Best wishes, > Alison > > -- > Alison Pamment Tel: +44 1235 778065 > NCAS/Centre for Environmental Data ArchivalEmail: > alison.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk > STFC Rutherford Appleton Laborator

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-09-20 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
. Cheers, Roy. I have now retired but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address. From: Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC Sent: 20 September 2018 15:59 To: Lowry, Roy K.; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; ngalbra...@whoi.edu Subject: RE

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-09-20 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
To: Lowry, Roy K.; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; ngalbra...@whoi.edu Subject: RE: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave Dear Nan and Roy, In fact I had neglected to consider the case when the sign is unknown or unrecorded. I am used to thinking about model data, where the sign of a quantity is always known, but I

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-09-20 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
uses the standard name table this way, I know, but for those who do this is really helpful. Thanks for bringing this together! - Nan On 9/20/18 4:35 AM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: > > Dear Alison, > > > Your proposal is a much better solution than deprecating the original > Standa

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-09-20 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
. From: Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC Sent: 19 September 2018 19:04 To: Lowry, Roy K.; Jim Biard; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: RE: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave Dear Jim et al., Thank you again for all the work on these names and their definitions. I have now caught up with all the comments

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-09-13 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
n be defined on those mobile objects to deal with relative positions for other objects. On 9/13/18 12:15 PM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: Hi John, Your Q2 has been discussed at length. The local vertical axis is indeed local to the platform, as are the axes running front to back and left to right.

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-09-13 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Hi John, Your Q2 has been discussed at length. The local vertical axis is indeed local to the platform, as are the axes running front to back and left to right. Your eagle eyes have indeed spotted something I missed in the yaw definition ' 'Yaw is a rotation about the axis of rotation'

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-09-11 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
by the vendors - so presumably people will be able to figure out which side is which, and these terms will be OK. - Nan On 9/7/18 4:07 AM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: Good point, So you'd prefer platform_roll_starboard_down and so on? Cheers, Roy

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-09-05 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
galbra...@whoi.edu> - Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 11:57:33 -0400 From: Nan Galbraith <mailto:ngalbra...@whoi.edu> To: "Lowry, Roy K." <mailto:r...@bodc.ac.uk> Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu<mailto:cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave User-Age

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-08-31 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Jonathan, I appreciate that you haven't been following this debate so I thought I'd point out that the proposal is a mixture of new Standard Names and upgrades to definitions of existing Standard Names for pitch, roll and yaw. To my thinking whatever is done shouldn't change the

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-08-31 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Jim, >From my researches into existing oceanographic data sets (SeaDataCloud >holdings plus EU glider data projects), covering heave, pitch, roll and yaw. I >haven't discovered a single deviation from the conventions: heave positive up Pitch positive bow/nose up yaw positive to

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-08-06 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
geophysics<http://www.facebook.com/NOAANCEIoceangeo> information, and follow us on Twitter at @NOAANCEIclimate <http://www.twitter.com/NOAANCEIclimate> and @NOAANCEIocngeo<http://www.twitter.com/NOAANCEIocngeo>. On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 3:45 AM Lowry, Roy K. mailto:r...@bodc.ac.u

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-08-04 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
rward, the red roll >>> arrow is showing a clockwise motion, with right side moving >>> downward. If you >>> were facing aft, the arrow would be anticlockwise, but the right side would >>> be rising. >>> >>> So, 'roll: "clockwise" for positiv

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-31 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
t a negative number, since the ship just went down 3 units?) If someone can answer that then our best definition might be more obvious. John --- John Graybeal jbgrayb...@mindspring.com<mailto:jbgrayb...@mindspring.com> On Jul 29, 2018, at 04:29, Lowr

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-30 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Hear Hear!!! I have now retired but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address. From: CF-metadata on behalf of Nan Galbraith Sent: 30 July 2018 19:22 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Platform

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-30 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
like we're converging ... maybe. Cheers - Nan - On 7/29/18 7:29 AM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: > > Dear All, > > > Giving it some thought over the weekend I realise that where we lost > the plot in this discussion was when we encountered 'direction of > travel'. Jim succinct

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-30 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
ition might be more obvious. John --- John Graybeal jbgrayb...@mindspring.com<mailto:jbgrayb...@mindspring.com> On Jul 29, 2018, at 04:29, Lowry, Roy K. mailto:r...@bodc.ac.uk>> wrote: Dear All, Giving it some thought over the weekend I realise

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-30 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
with pitche, roll, heave etc. so I don't think it should be decoupled. Cheers, Roy. I have now retired but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address. From: John Graybeal Sent: 30 July 2018 17:52 To: Lowry, Roy K. Cc

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-29 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
onfusing to me. The term 'a platform that is nominally at rest' does not apply to many platforms for which heave is calculated; the original version of that, 'a moving object above the vertical level of that object when stationary' was maybe a little more clear... if also a little wordy. And, th

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-27 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
nt determined by integrating vertical accelerations' may also not apply - I've been looking at the different ways heave is calculated, and there are a few: 'Heave can be computed from GPS RTK height measurements and from vertical accelerations measured by linear accelerometers' Why n

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-26 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
frames. Maybe it's not possible to find a happy medium, but I'm hoping to do so. I'll suggest some standard name definitions of my own shortly. Grace and peace, Jim On 7/26/18 2:46 PM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: Dear Jim, I think the problem is that the 'platform' standard names have been

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-26 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
ons as part of the August standard names update. Best wishes, Alison From: Lowry, Roy K. <mailto:r...@bodc.ac.uk> Sent: 25 July 2018 16:35:27 To: Pamment, Alison (STFC,RAL,RALSP); cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu<mailto:cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Platform

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-26 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
he direction in which the platform is travelling, called > platform_course).' > > > Okay? > > > As an additional point, I note that besides the names already discussed in > this thread, there are a further 11 existing platform names. I will include > the new text for '

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-25 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
e > vertical level of that object when stationary' was maybe a little more > clear... if also a little wordy. > > And, the term 'vertical displacement determined by integrating > vertical accelerations' may also not apply - I've been looking at the > different ways heave is

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-25 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
latforms for which heave is > calculated; the original version of that, 'a moving object above the > vertical level of that object when stationary' was maybe a little more > clear... if also a little wordy. > > And, the term 'vertical displacement determined by integrating > vertical acceler

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99

2018-07-12 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
. Then 6.1 and 6.2 will describe mechanisms in CF, and 6.3 and 6.4 applications of these mechanisms. Does that seem OK? Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Lowry, Roy K." - > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 16:04:07 +0000 > From: "Lowry, Roy K." > To: "cf

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99

2018-07-12 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
this new proposal, but I'm not sure what you're asking me. Which extra text? Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Lowry, Roy K." - > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 11:54:57 +0000 > From: "Lowry, Roy K." > To: Jonathan Gregory , "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99

2018-07-12 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
) for instance? It is the organisms we mean. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Lowry, Roy K." - > Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 08:02:05 +0000 > From: "Lowry, Roy K." > To: Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC , >"cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" , >

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-06-04 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
-metadata <mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu> On Behalf Of Lowry, Roy K. Sent: 30 May 2018 21:37 To: Jim Biard <mailto:jbi...@cicsnc.org>; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu<mailto:cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave An afterthought. Heave is conventionall

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-05-30 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
on behalf of Lowry, Roy K. Sent: 30 May 2018 21:02 To: Jim Biard; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave Thanks Jim, That work for me. Cheers, Roy. I am retiring on 31/05/2018 but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-05-30 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
determined by integrating vertical accelerations of a platform that is nominally at rest. Jim On 5/27/18 5:38 AM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: Hi Jim, Does "Heave" is a term used to describe the vertical displacement of a moving object above the vertical level of that object when station

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-05-27 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
ysics<http://www.facebook.com/NOAANCEIoceangeo> information, and follow us on Twitter at @NOAANCEIclimate <http://www.twitter.com/NOAANCEIclimate> and @NOAANCEIocngeo<http://www.twitter.com/NOAANCEIocngeo>. On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Lowry, Roy K. <r...@bodc.ac.uk<

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-05-26 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
EIocngeo<http://www.twitter.com/NOAANCEIocngeo>. On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 7:28 AM, Lowry, Roy K. <r...@bodc.ac.uk<mailto:r...@bodc.ac.uk>> wrote: Dear All, I agree with Nan that definitions of pitch roll and yaw would improve the existing Standard Name definitions. I also

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-05-25 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
definitions - and the names themselves - can be used to describe instruments, not just vehicles 'e.g. aeroplane, ship or satellite'. We already use pitch roll and yaw for these instruments on surface moorings, and I hope (and assume) this is legal. Thanks - Nan Galbraith On 5/25/18 8:53 AM, Lowry,

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-05-25 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Steve, One of the reasons I was interested in your definitions was your perspective on the datum (i.e. zero value) for heave. The datum 'mean_sea_level' is well used in CF, but with the definition 'time mean of sea surface elevation at a given location over an arbitrary period

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-05-21 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
DearSteve, Would you care to provide definitions? Cheers, Roy. I am retiring on 31/05/2018 but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address. From: CF-metadata on behalf of Hamilton,

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99

2018-05-21 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Can you see something wrong with organisms_in_taxon (or _from_ or _belonging_to_) for instance? It is the organisms we mean. Best wishes Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Lowry, Roy K." <r...@bodc.ac.uk> - > Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 08:02:05 + > From: "Lowry,

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99

2018-05-21 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
- UKRI STFC <martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk> Sent: 02 May 2018 08:47 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk; Lowry, Roy K. Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Standard Names to support Trac ticket 99 Dear Roy, Jonathan, I understand the cause of Jonathan's concern: wikipedia suggests a b

Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

2018-05-18 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
[CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in >> sediment? >> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 >> Thunderbird/52.7.0 >> >> Hi Roy, >> >> >> OK, that's fine. Thanks. >> >> >>

Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

2018-05-18 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
e sum of all inorganic silicon in solution (including silicic acid and its first dissociated anion SiO(OH)3-). 'Biogenic silica' are biogenic silicon minerals which originate from the siliceous skeletal material of dead diatoms and other silica-utilizing organisms. Daniel On 18.05.2018 09:47, Lowry,

Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

2018-05-18 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
. From: Lowry, Roy K. Sent: 18 May 2018 08:47 To: Daniel Neumann; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment? Hi (yet) again, Overnight I remembered a debate on CF about not using'dissolved inorganic silicon' rather

Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

2018-05-18 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
5.2018 16:00, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: Hi Daniel, That works for me. Cheers, Roy. I am retiring on 31/05/2018 but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address. From: CF-metadata <cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu>&

Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

2018-05-17 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
the location of the interface between water column and sediment can be provided via the comment attribute. Cheers, Daniel On 17.05.2018 16:00, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: Hi Daniel, That works for me. Cheers, Roy. I am retiring on 31/05/2018 but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fell

Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

2018-05-17 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
uot; or "marine seabed sediment" be an acceptable alternative? moles_of_nitrogen_per_unit_area_in_seabed_sediment This would clarify that the sea floor is meant as location of the sediment. It would also clarify that not bare rock is meant. Cheers, Daniel On 16.05.2018 11:42, Low

Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

2018-05-16 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
f material/compartment Y. 'Sediment' means particulate matter bound at the sea floor. Information on the location of the interface between water column and sediment can be provided via the comment attribute. Cheers, Daniel On 15.05.2018 18:30, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: Dear Daniel, I think ben

Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

2018-05-15 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Daniel, I think benthos chemistry is virgin territory for CF - not really surprising for a standard that started in the atmosphere before dipping its toes in the ocean. Some thoughts based on my experience with observed sediment chemistry data. The data may be reported per unit mass

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-08 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Andy, I agree with Jonathan that specifically referencing LAT in the Standard Name would be better. In the UK sea level community there is a tendency to use the term 'chart datum' when what is really meant is 'Admiralty Chart Datum', which is defined as LAT. Some other navies (e.g.

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed additional names for sea_surface_wave parameters

2018-05-08 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Hi Andy, Finally managed to check the detail of this proposal and agree with Jonathan that all now looks good. Cheers, Roy. Please note that I partially retired on 01/11/2015. I am now only working 7.5 hours a week and can only guarantee e-mail response on Wednesdays, my day in the

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed additional names for sea_surface_wave parameters

2018-05-04 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Jonathan, I totally agree with Andy on this point. Cheers, Roy. Please note that I partially retired on 01/11/2015. I am now only working 7.5 hours a week and can only guarantee e-mail response on Wednesdays, my day in the office. All vocabulary queries should be sent to

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-03 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
response on Wednesdays, my day in the office. All vocabulary queries should be sent to enquir...@bodc.ac.uk. Please also use this e-mail if your requirement is urgent. From: CF-metadata <cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu> on behalf of Lowry, Roy K. <r...@b

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