[c-nsp] Softnet replacement?

2009-01-11 Thread Hank Nussbacher
I was informed that Cisco no longer sells Softnet support. What should I be asking for in order to open TAC cases directly (not via our Cisco Gold Partner) as well as to be able to download new IOS versions? Thanks, Hank ___ cisco-nsp mailing list

Re: [c-nsp] Softnet replacement?

2009-01-11 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 10:28:28AM +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote: I was informed that Cisco no longer sells Softnet support. What should I be asking for in order to open TAC cases directly (not via our Cisco Gold Partner) as well as to be able to download new IOS versions? Softnet is a

Re: [c-nsp] Softnet replacement?

2009-01-11 Thread Arie Vayner (avayner)
Hank, I think you are referring to SmartNet... Arie -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Hank Nussbacher Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:28 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] Softnet replacement?

Re: [c-nsp] Softnet replacement?

2009-01-11 Thread Hank Nussbacher
At 11:24 AM 11-01-09 +0100, Arie Vayner (avayner) wrote: Hank, I think you are referring to SmartNet... That provides RMA which we do not need. We want *only* TAC access and IOS downloads. Softnet provided that option - which Cisco has abolished. -Hank Arie -Original Message-

Re: [c-nsp] Softnet replacement?

2009-01-11 Thread Aaron Daniels - Lists
Hi Hank, I was informed that Cisco no longer sells Softnet support. What should I be asking for in order to open TAC cases directly (not via our Cisco Gold Partner) as well as to be able to download new IOS versions? We use Co-brand maintenance, which is purchased from a partner but direct

Re: [c-nsp] Softnet replacement?

2009-01-11 Thread Garry
Hank Nussbacher wrote: At 11:24 AM 11-01-09 +0100, Arie Vayner (avayner) wrote: Hank, I think you are referring to SmartNet... That provides RMA which we do not need. We want *only* TAC access and IOS downloads. Softnet provided that option - which Cisco has abolished. We've set up some

Re: [c-nsp] Softnet replacement?

2009-01-11 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 01:41:59PM +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote: That provides RMA which we do not need. We want *only* TAC access and IOS downloads. Softnet provided that option - which Cisco has abolished. Oh. Interesting. Softnet would have been what we've been asking Cisco for for

Re: [c-nsp] Softnet replacement?

2009-01-11 Thread Will Hargrave
Hank Nussbacher wrote: That provides RMA which we do not need. We want *only* TAC access and IOS downloads. Softnet provided that option - which Cisco has abolished. In the past i've bought 'SASU' which is Software Application Support plus Upgrades. However on recent pricing it came out the

Re: [c-nsp] Softnet replacement?

2009-01-11 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Will Hargrave wrote: Hank Nussbacher wrote: That provides RMA which we do not need. We want *only* TAC access and IOS downloads. Softnet provided that option - which Cisco has abolished. In the past i've bought 'SASU' which is Software Application Support plus

Re: [c-nsp] Logical Router Segmentation

2009-01-11 Thread Brandon Bennett
Vrf-lite is just a Cisco term for utilizing VRFs when no MPLS is present. Any vendor who supports VRFs support VRF-lite. In all honesty it's a stupid term as VRF technology isn't tied to MPLS at all. Yes vrf is required for l3 vpns but so is mBGP and we don't have mBGP-lite :)

Re: [c-nsp] Fwd: VLAN 1 through routed ports

2009-01-11 Thread Justin Shore
Higham, Josh wrote: Either I'm misunderstanding what you are saying, or this is incorrect. The native VLAN identifier just dictates what frames are tagged, it doesn't control whether they are sent. So if the native vlan is 999, with a default config port is in vlan 1, if the port receives

Re: [c-nsp] Logical Router Segmentation

2009-01-11 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 09:19:54AM -0700, Brandon Bennett wrote: In all honesty it's a stupid term as VRF technology isn't tied to MPLS at all. Yes vrf is required for l3 vpns but so is mBGP and we don't have mBGP-lite :) Well, mBGP is not strictly required... you can do L3 VPNs

Re: [c-nsp] Logical Router Segmentation

2009-01-11 Thread Brad Hedlund (brhedlun)
The term VRF-Lite comes from when Cisco started delivering VRF capabilities across all Catalyst L3 platforms, even the low end. Many vendors do support VRF on their high end routers and switches, but few have comprehensive VRF support from the high end all the to the low end. MBGP is not

Re: [c-nsp] Softnet replacement?

2009-01-11 Thread Justin Shore
Gert Doering wrote: Hi, On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 01:41:59PM +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote: That provides RMA which we do not need. We want *only* TAC access and IOS downloads. Softnet provided that option - which Cisco has abolished. Oh. Interesting. Softnet would have been what we've been

Re: [c-nsp] Procurve DHCP relay question

2009-01-11 Thread Eric Cables
Thanks all for the feedback. Turns out the software revision on the switch (0.8.58) was part of a revision window that had dhcp relay OFF by default. I upgraded to the latest revision, which had it enabled. On 1/9/09, Jeremy L. Gaddis jer...@evilrouters.net wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Eric

Re: [c-nsp] Logical Router Segmentation

2009-01-11 Thread Derick Winkworth
Juniper supports it well. The EX series 1U switches are pretty decent actually. But, again... he might be able to get this done without VRFs... Brad Hedlund (brhedlun) wrote: The term VRF-Lite comes from when Cisco started delivering VRF capabilities across all Catalyst L3 platforms, even the

Re: [c-nsp] Logical Router Segmentation

2009-01-11 Thread Brad Hedlund
On 1/11/09 12:58 PM, Derick Winkworth dwinkwo...@att.net wrote: But, again... he might be able to get this done without VRFs... Yes, possibly. At the expense of dynamic routing. Brad Hedlund bhedl...@cisco.com http://www.internetworkexpert.org ___

Re: [c-nsp] Logical Router Segmentation

2009-01-11 Thread Chris Burwell
More than likely we will go in the direction of adding an additional layer 3 device off of the external interface of our firewall. We will use this layer 3 device to make the decision as to which interface the traffic should be forwarded onto. We could probably accomplish this with a Procurve

Re: [c-nsp] Logical Router Segmentation

2009-01-11 Thread Justin Shore
You could also route out to IU via a DMZ interface on the firewall. Depending on what services they're providing to you, you may be required (by law in many cases) to encrypt the transmission of data to IU. This would be the case if you were a medical institution transmitting data to an

Re: [c-nsp] Logical Router Segmentation

2009-01-11 Thread Skeeve Stevens
Speaking on VRF-Lite. What is the easiest way to link two VRF's on two separate routers in layer 2 - so each VRF can see the arp and so on from the other? ...Skeeve -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Chris

Re: [c-nsp] Procurve DHCP relay question

2009-01-11 Thread Chris Burwell
That's great to hear Eric! I ran into some DHCP issues when using MAC authentication over RADIUS on a 5412zl this summer. In my case a simple software upgrade did the trick as well! - Chris Message: 3 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:28:15 -0600 From: Eric Cables ecab...@gmail.com Subject: Re:

Re: [c-nsp] Logical Router Segmentation

2009-01-11 Thread Brad Hedlund
On 1/11/09 3:40 PM, Skeeve Stevens ske...@skeeve.org wrote: What is the easiest way to link two VRF's on two separate routers in layer 2 - so each VRF can see the arp and so on from the other? 802.1Q Tagging. Either using subinterfaces on routed ports, or SVI's on L2 trunking ports.

Re: [c-nsp] Softnet replacement?

2009-01-11 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Justin Shore wrote: There is a SmartNet option with software, TAC support, and no advanced replacement in SP Base. Specifically you want SP-SW for your device. To give you an idea of the price difference for a 7201 with no on-site support, 24x7x4 is $3226, 8x5xNBD is

Re: [c-nsp] Logical Router Segmentation

2009-01-11 Thread Lincoln Dale
Skeeve Stevens wrote: Speaking on VRF-Lite. What is the easiest way to link two VRF's on two separate routers in layer 2 - so each VRF can see the arp and so on from the other? i think you've missed a critical bit of understanding here; VRF is a layer 3 concept. if you wanted to connect

Re: [c-nsp] Logical Router Segmentation

2009-01-11 Thread Brandon Bennett
I should of specified rfc2547 vpns. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Brad Hedlund (brhedlun) brhed...@cisco.com wrote: The term VRF-Lite comes from when Cisco started delivering VRF capabilities across all Catalyst L3 platforms, even the low end. Many vendors do support

Re: [c-nsp] Logical Router Segmentation

2009-01-11 Thread Brandon Bennett
Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Brad Hedlund (brhedlun) brhed...@cisco.com wrote: The term VRF-Lite comes from when Cisco started delivering VRF capabilities across all Catalyst L3 platforms, even the low end. Exactly. It's cisco marketing speak. It's just another

Re: [c-nsp] Fwd: VLAN 1 through routed ports

2009-01-11 Thread Matt Carter
I think Engel may have mis-read my email and thought I was on a trunk port in which case what he wrote would have been correct. In my case though I was on an access port. Most of that port's config had been wiped clean leaving only switchport and mode access. I could avoid the issue in the

[c-nsp] Max number of users on Aironet 1252AG

2009-01-11 Thread Skeeve Stevens
Hey all, I need to come up with a quick solution for a large scale temporary wireless solution. It is for some roving festivals and the request has been for 4000 connections. but I think I can talk them down. What I am wondering is. How many simultaneous users can a 1252AG handle? And is there

Re: [c-nsp] Max number of users on Aironet 1252AG

2009-01-11 Thread Jack
Hi Skeeve, in the Past I implemented Wism / WLC in the Campus, I used 50 users for 1 AP but I have seen a lot of intermittent problem and connectivity issue occurred. so, I got the advice from Cisco which adjust the AP only can handle up to max 25-30, this then solving the connectivity issue.

Re: [c-nsp] Max number of users on Aironet 1252AG

2009-01-11 Thread Tony
--- On Mon, 12/1/09, Skeeve Stevens ske...@skeeve.org wrote: From: Skeeve Stevens ske...@skeeve.org Subject: [c-nsp] Max number of users on Aironet 1252AG To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Date: Monday, 12 January, 2009, 12:34 PM Hey all, I need to come up with a quick solution for a large