Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-20 Thread Phil Mayers
On 19/11/13 22:51, Tim Durack wrote: Second that. The more people buy 3rd party (coded if you want) the better. Vendors only listen to sales. In fact I would go further. Mandate that the device interoperate with 3rd party optics in your procurement, and have the suppler sign a contact.

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-20 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
On 11/19/2013 11:57 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: +1 to that. We recently ran across some 3rd-party CODED DOM-supporting optics that have worked (thus far) in both Ciscos and Brocades. When you can issue a show int trans and get results from 3rd-parties while Ciscos remain silent, it speaks volumes

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-20 Thread cnsp
Things will get worse if they start to solder crytoprocs with mask-programmed vendor-signed certificates into the gbic/sfp/.. instead of the serial eeprom. Also the real-time clock helps to limit the lifetime of devices to just a little longer than warrenty time. show transceiver lifetime

[c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-19 Thread Christina Klam
Jeff, We have been running 6.2(2) since the summer. In the last six months, I had to return some third-party Cisco compatible twinax cables because they were Invalid on our M2s. And, I just had to swap out some official Cisco SFP-10G-LR because they were version 1 which also do not work with

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-19 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 19/11/2013 13:54, Christina Klam wrote: We have been running 6.2(2) since the summer. In the last six months, I had to return some third-party Cisco compatible twinax cables because they were Invalid on our M2s. And, I just had to swap out some official Cisco SFP-10G-LR because they were

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-19 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 03:59:06PM +, Nick Hilliard wrote: I would love to condemn the product managers who make this sort of rage-inducing decision to an eternity of dealing with 02:00 maintenance windows where you're stuck in a data centre with severe time constraints, the network

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-19 Thread Jeffrey G. Fitzwater
Christina, are you running on sup-2E ? We are running many non-CISCO transceivers on nexus 7k running 6.1.3 but when I did the upgrade to 6.2.2a NO GOOD. We also ran across issue with 6.2.2a on sup-2E that you cannot overwrite slot0: file. Delete but no overwrite. TAC case open. Jeff

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-19 Thread Jeffrey G. Fitzwater
I don’t see the “service unsupported-transceiver” command nor does it run (in case its hidden). That would imply its not there on 7k 6.1.3 or 6.2.2a. Can you imagine us doing an upgrade on one of our core 7k and having all the transceivers fail. Jeff On Nov 19, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Gert

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-19 Thread Christina Klam
Jeff, They are plain ole N7K-SUP2 with N7K-M224XP-23L line cards. I just accepted the fact that we will have to pay the Cisco tax. Regards, Christina On 11/19/2013 02:45 PM, Jeffrey G. Fitzwater wrote: Christina, are you running on sup-2E ? We are running many non-CISCO transceivers on

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-19 Thread Jeffrey G. Fitzwater
Did you happen to try to overwrite a slot0:file , even though this is unrelated to the transceiver issue. In my case its just another bug with 6.2.2a on sup-2E. Jeff On Nov 19, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Christina Klam ck...@ias.edu wrote: Jeff, They are plain ole N7K-SUP2 with N7K-M224XP-23L

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-19 Thread Tim Durack
service unsupported-transceiver works for us on 6.2.2a. On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Jeffrey G. Fitzwater jf...@princeton.eduwrote: I don’t see the “service unsupported-transceiver” command nor does it run (in case its hidden). That would imply its not there on 7k 6.1.3 or 6.2.2a.

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-19 Thread Jeffrey G. Fitzwater
What sup and what EPLD ver. Interesting ! Jeff On Nov 19, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Tim Durack tdur...@gmail.commailto:tdur...@gmail.com wrote: service unsupported-transceiver works for us on 6.2.2a. On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Jeffrey G. Fitzwater

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-19 Thread Jeffrey G. Fitzwater
My error. Yes it does exist. Not sure what I did wrong. i am going back and try new code with command. Thanks Jeff On Nov 19, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Tim Durack tdur...@gmail.commailto:tdur...@gmail.com wrote: service unsupported-transceiver works for us on 6.2.2a. On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-19 Thread James Slepicka (c-nsp)
Just talked to my SE. He reports that, in previous versions, some 3rd party transceivers (mine included, apparently) work without service unsupported-transceiver. This was 'fixed' in 6.2(2)... Thanks for reporting this, Jeff. We'll be upgrading soon and this saved me from a big headache.

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-19 Thread Jeffrey G. Fitzwater
In 6.1.3 I never had to add the command; but now with 6.2.2a I have to. Are we having fun yet.. Jeff On Nov 19, 2013, at 3:46 PM, James Slepicka (c-nsp) cisco-...@slepicka.net wrote: Just talked to my SE. He reports that, in previous versions, some 3rd party transceivers (mine

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-19 Thread James Slepicka (c-nsp)
Does the command exist in 6.1(3)? I don't have a box that I can test with. -Original Message- From: Jeffrey G. Fitzwater [mailto:jf...@princeton.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 3:19 PM To: James Slepicka (c-nsp) Cc: Jeffrey G. Fitzwater; Tim Durack; Gert Doering; Christina Klam;

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-19 Thread Jeffrey G. Fitzwater
It does accept the command in 6.1.3, but non CISCO transceivers still work without running it, and its NOT in the config even with the command “show run all” if I run the command “no service unsupported-transceiver” and do an interface SHUT NO SHUT the non CISCO still work. Hmmm…. So CISCO

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-19 Thread Jared Mauch
On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: On 19/11/2013 13:54, Christina Klam wrote: We have been running 6.2(2) since the summer. In the last six months, I had to return some third-party Cisco compatible twinax cables because they were Invalid on our M2s. And, I

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-19 Thread Tim Durack
Second that. The more people buy 3rd party (coded if you want) the better. Vendors only listen to sales. On Tuesday, November 19, 2013, Jared Mauch wrote: On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.orgjavascript:; wrote: On 19/11/2013 13:54, Christina Klam wrote: We have

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new, NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-19 Thread Jeff Kell
On 11/19/2013 5:51 PM, Tim Durack wrote: Second that. The more people buy 3rd party (coded if you want) the better. Vendors only listen to sales. +1 to that. We recently ran across some 3rd-party CODED DOM-supporting optics that have worked (thus far) in both Ciscos and Brocades. When you can

[c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-18 Thread Jeffrey G. Fitzwater
Since CISCO TECH will probably not touch this because its not CISCO, I see if anybody has solution. We are running nx-os 6.1.3 on 7k with sup-2E on a new chassis that will go into production soon. We wanted to run the 6.2.2a to fix some other issues with logging and found out the channel

Re: [c-nsp] Third party transceivers that fail only with new NX-OS 6.2.2a on sup-2E

2013-11-18 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Mon, 18 Nov 2013, Jeffrey G. Fitzwater wrote: Since CISCO TECH will probably not touch this because its not CISCO, I see if anybody has solution. Backing out to 6.1.3 and all comes back to life. Has anybody else sent his issue with third party transceivers? I don't know if Cisco's