Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

“If the BMS does disconnect for high-voltage cutoff while the Alternator is charging / spinning then it's going to blow something up in the alternator. To mitigate that I've been running our starting bank in parallel while the motor is running (and most of the time sailing as well).” Adding a ACR

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

I could explain some of the comments. Get Outlook for Android From: Andy Frame via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:45:42 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andy Frame Subject: Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium? Swap the

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

Try Twitter, Instagram, Facebook...you are on the wrong site. On 2021-09-14 9:43 p.m., Korbey Hunt wrote: Shucks, I thought this post was about bi polar disorder. Get Outlook for Android

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

Swap the cables and it will be. On 9/14/2021 8:43 PM, Korbey Hunt via CnC-List wrote: > Shucks, I thought this post was about bi polar disorder. > > Get Outlook for Android > > *From:* Robert

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

Shucks, I thought this post was about bi polar disorder. Get Outlook for Android From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:09:08 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Della Barba, Joe ; Robert Abbott Subject: Stus-List anyone

Stus-List Re: A4 Alternator

Joe, Thanks, that's good info. Neil Gallagher Weatherly 35-1 Glen Cove, NY On 9/14/2021 6:48 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote: The 60 amp Balmar I have fit the mounts just fine. Here is a thread about installing it. Balmar Alternator Installation and Test - Moyer Marine Atomic 4

Stus-List anyone gone lithium?

Joe: My sailing season lasts approx. 5 1/2 months, May to say mid Octoberbatteries are used approx. +100 days per season to run everything on the boat that requires DC...first 8 years, boat was on a mooring with no shore power...last 5 seasons with the boat at a slip, plugged into shore

Stus-List A4 Alternator

The 60 amp Balmar I have fit the mounts just fine. Here is a thread about installing it. Balmar Alternator Installation and Test - Moyer Marine Atomic 4 Community - Home of the Afourians (moyermarineforum.com) I only paid

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: anyone gone lithium?

Joe, Also a bit of thread creep, but I'm in the process of rebuilding or replacing my alternator on the A4.  Does the Balmar fit on the engine without significant modifications? Neil Gallagher Weatherly 35-1 Glen Cove NY On 9/14/2021 2:31 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote: I have a

Stus-List REtha: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: anyone gone lithium?

That is pretty astounding battery life, I am not sure I can get a battery to last that long in a car. What is your typical cycling load like for a typical week out? Joe Coquina From: Robert Abbott Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:14 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Della Barba, Joe ; Randal Stafford

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

My Great Northern Batteries, group 27's are 13 years old...used then again this season...gotta replace soon but they still hold a good charge..12.6V to 12.7V Rob Abbott AZURA C 32 -#277 Halifax, N.S On 2021-09-14 12:52 p.m., Randal Stafford via CnC-List wrote: What’s the upside? I got

Stus-List Fwd: Re: anyone gone lithium?

Hi, The message below bounced back to me as I tried to include a pdf file. I replaced the attachment with a google doc link andI’m resending the message. Sorry if you get the message twice. Paul ... Hi, This was my argument last year, but the costs for LFP is now less than Walmart

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: anyone gone lithium?

Forgot to mention I also run a simple Raymarine instrument system on each use - DST sensor, wind vane, GPS, hub, and MFD. Cheers, Randy > On Sep 14, 2021, at 1:03 PM, Randal Stafford via CnC-List > wrote: > > "The stock system was so adequate for that that I didn't even notice a dead >

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: anyone gone lithium?

"The stock system was so adequate for that that I didn't even notice a dead alternator for an entire season.” Lol, I think that’s what happened to me. I bought Grenadine in January 2016; this is my sixth season with her. She came with a pair of group 29 Everstart lead-acid batteries

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: anyone gone lithium?

Misread ... FYI - When I was shopping you could negotiate (and I did) less than C$600 per battery - group 31 LiFePo. I had expected around C$1000 ea initially. On Tue, 14 Sept 2021 at 14:22, Dave S wrote: > Which is more or less what I paid for a group31 LiFePo battery... When I > really

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

I bought 3x 100ah 12v Xubi LiFePo4 batteries from Alibaba. Shipping was around 6-8 weeks with COVID. I'm running 3x in parallel and so far they've been great. One 3 day trip with motoring, and day cruising where I run the fridge and AP. So far no issues. If the BMS does disconnect for

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: anyone gone lithium?

I have a 60 amp Balmar. The Atomic 4 has a small drive pulley, so getting much past 50 amps never happens. Also lead-acid batteries of all types only charge quickly for awhile and then taper off, so it probably takes as long to get the last 25% in as it did to get the first 75%. Right now I am

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: anyone gone lithium?

Which is more or less what I paid for a group31 LiFePo battery... When I really shopped it (industrial sources) I was pleasantly surprised at the price. Whether it's of benefit really depends on your use as Randy stated. When I first bought windstar I only daysailed and plugged in every night.

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

Joe, What is your alternator rated at? I was lucky to charge my FLA batteries at half rating, but now I easily charge at 110A. You may want to consider the Renogy DCC1212-60A or the DCC50S \(w/ MPPT). Balmer sells these alternator protectors which are basically a short wire with a Zener

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

You need a class D extinguisher, just like we used to have to carry for VW magnesium block engines in the FD From: David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 9:59 AM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium? I heard a

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

Agree with Chuck and Randy. The DIY approach many of us have with regard to our boat systems is not likely to be adequate for current Li batteries of which I know nothing except they can be charged rapidly and they keep going rather well until they don’t! When the battery and charger 

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

My alternator might hit 50 amps on a really good day, so a 40 amp DC-DC charger would be plenty. BTW, the usual alternator protectors are 16 or 18 volt Zener diodes. I had occasion to test that once and it did burn the diode up, but the alternator was saved  Joe Della Barba Coquina From:

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

Hi Joe, I made the change to LiFePO4 this year. And yes, I chose to keep the lead-acid start battery with the alternator directly connected to it. I originally planned on using a DC-DC charger (both w/ and wo/ MPPT solar charging) for charging the LiFePO4 battery.The issue with DC-DC

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: anyone gone lithium?

To just replace what I have with the same batteries I have now, Deka gels, will be about $650, so it isn’t cheap either way. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:17 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Della Barba, Joe ; Randal Stafford Subject: [EXTERNAL]

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

Agree with Randy. The cost of Lithium batteries and all the necessary power/charging management devices, prohibits the purchase unless you plan to keep the boat for twenty or thirty years. I would only do it for a newer, bigger boat that can support enough Solar Panels to be off grid, like a

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

What’s the upside? I got seven years out of a pair of group 29s Everstarts from Walmart, just replaced for $90 each. And I just replaced the alternator on my A4, which lasted 49 years. But the way I use my boat doesn’t require having a state-of-the-art battery system. Cheers, Randy > On

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

Joe, I have been checking into this, and there are 2 things that you should be aware of first. 1. You probably want LiFePO4 batteries as opposed to "regular" lithium-ion batteries. The latter are the ones more likely to catch on fire although it is a possibility with both

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: anyone gone lithium?

Even worse in an airplane! How much money did Boeing spend on that issue? BTW even old wet cells can be dangerous and even explode. I had a cell go bad in a 24 volt airplane that had 2 12 volt batteries. It popped the top and sprayed acid on me when I went to look at it ☹ I would probably be

Stus-List ] Re: anyone gone lithium?

I have one of those, they are Zener diodes. The actual cost of the diode is about $1.00  *Probably* I would be OK because of connected loads and the start battery, but I am not 100% sure and you could get a nasty spike. My shore power charger does have a lithium setting, but my alternator and

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

I heard a distress call on the VHF from a boat on fire calling the Coast Guard because they could not put out the fire in their lithium battery bank. I would certainly keep that issue in mind as it appears to merit special consideration in a marine environment. Dave S/V Aries 1990 C 34+ New

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

If the bms disconnects the house bank does the alternator not still ‘see’ the load of the lead-acid start battery? (Assumes an appropriate switching setup) As long as the start battery remains in play the house bank’s bms shouldn’t put the alternator at risk. No? Dave Sent from my iPhone

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

Am just finishing my first season with solar/lithium batteries and it’s been a revelation. Few chargers I found have a lithium setting, you can use a lead acid setting. My shore power charger is set for agm and is connected directly to the agm start battery and the LiFePo house bank. The

Stus-List Re: anyone gone lithium?

Sterling makes an alternator protector. I think Peter Kennedy sells them. Joel On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 9:27 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > My batteries are about shot and I am thinking of going to lithium > batteries. I have to say I thought I knew this

Stus-List anyone gone lithium?

My batteries are about shot and I am thinking of going to lithium batteries. I have to say I thought I knew this stuff and it seems massively confusing with a ton of directly contradictory information. One big issue seems that if the BMS disconnects for any reason, that will do a lot of damage

Stus-List Re: the rum is gone! (and the boat too)

News in the marine business world: https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/stolen-yacht-sent-distress-signal-and-disappeared-in-hurricane-larry Neil Gallagher Weatherly 35-1 Glen Cove, NY On 9/12/2021 8:19 AM, Graham Collins via CnC-List wrote: List member John noticed a posting on