Stus-List Re: Sizing an inverter

Paul; Thanks for sending this out. I had composed a draft with similar information, but not sent it out until I had confirmed my pre-retirement recollection that the A*h calculation was based on the 5 amp current draw. (Decades ago I was the marketing guy for batteries for a construction

Stus-List Last minute offshore opportunity

One of my Bermuda crew has covid. We are planning to leave Annapolis Monday. Contact me if interested. -- Joel Hylas 49 Rule One Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray

Stus-List Re: winter storage

Tipping is one of the main reasons I store mast down. Mast presents a lot of windage in cold winter storms. Puts a lot of pressure on small area of poppet that actually contacts the hull. To experience how much just stick your arm out the window of a car going 60!! Use steel cradle purpose

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Sizing an inverter

Chuck - do some research on lithium, they are way cheaper now than even a year or two ago. I’m in curacao at the moment refitting my new boat and am installing two 230ah LiFePo batteries. As others have said you need to determine the math regarding the ac. I’d strongly suggestadding a 3rd

Stus-List Re: winter storage

Well said, Jeff. > On 10/18/2023 7:12 PM EDT Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List > wrote: > > > Aluminum coefficient of thermal expansion is about 13e-6 and SS about 6.5e-6. > If the mast from keel to head is 50 ft, and temp change is 100 degrees F mast > contracts about 3/4" and stays,

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Sizing an inverter

Hey Josh, Good ideas as always. I'd really prefer to run AC off the batteries while on the hook. It doesn't run continuous all night, but cycles and most nights, I turn off the AC for the night after it's cooled down the cabin. Usually around 11pm. I would invest in Lithium to a point.

Stus-List Re: winter storage

Aluminum coefficient of thermal expansion is about 13e-6 and SS about 6.5e-6. If the mast from keel to head is 50 ft, and temp change is 100 degrees F mast contracts about 3/4" and stays, which are shorter but angled, contract about 5/16". So, effectively, the temperature loosens the stays for

Stus-List winter storage

The key to keeping mast up during winter is the cradlethe boats with inadequate or damaged cradles are at risk.  I have seen several boats at my club where the boats have toppled and it was the cradle that failed in every instance. And for loosening the rigging in winterno need if the

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Sizing an inverter

I was estimating 3000A-hr too.  That's 30 group 27 batteries!  Not sure you want to do that.  Most people opt for generators to power the air conditioning overnight.  You only need a small 2kw unit.  The little red Hondas are popular for this purpose.  You can set them on the foredeck and run

Stus-List Re: Cruising Gulf Coast

I have a meeting at RBYC on the 4th that I’d like to make. So see you before or after. Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA 02840+401 965 5260https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/On Oct 18, 2023, at 16:27, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:We will be at RHADC, but we can

Stus-List Re: Cruising Gulf Coast

We will be at RHADC, but we can take a bus to St G. On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 2:36 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Will do. Where are going to be? I usually stay in St G but may go around > to RBYC this time. > > Andrew Burton > 26 Beacon Hill >

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Sizing an inverter

The simple math shows that if you need 12.5 A at 120 V, you will need 125 A at 12 V. This is assuming 100% efficiency of the inverter. I bet that they are around 80%, so add 20% to that number (1.2 x 125 A = 150 A). Run this for 12 h and you will use 150 A x 12 h = 1800 Ah. In order to

Stus-List Re: Wet Vac

We recently had a situation here where a guy was using the wet vac to clean up gasoline...guess what happened...he's in the hospital with 2nd degree burns and in an induced comathe boat was destroyed.  Why would someone do that, you ask? He was a life long sailor who had just purchased his

Stus-List Re: Cruising Gulf Coast

Will do. Where are going to be? I usually stay in St G but may go around to RBYC this time. Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA 02840+401 965 5260https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/On Oct 18, 2023, at 14:05, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:We will be there until about

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Sizing an inverter

Very helpful. What is the proper math to determine battery bank size needed to run our AC unit for twelve hours? I know a softstart would make it possible, and the rated amp draw is 12.5 amps at 120vac. I'm considering getting a lithium 200 ah and keeping a 100 ah AGM as a start battery.

Stus-List Re: Cruising Gulf Coast

We will be there until about the 10th. Let me know when you get there. Joel On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 1:23 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > How long will you stay in Bermuda, Joel? I’m hoping to get out of Newport > on the 31st and head there. > > Andrew Burton > 26

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: winter storage

I haul out in August, so I guess I need not worry  From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 1:59 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: winter storage But in Maryland, you don’t have real winter (). I think that any issues with

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: winter storage

But in Maryland, you don’t have real winter (). I think that any issues with tightening/loosening the shrouds starts making any difference when you have longer periods of low temperatures (-20 °C/ below 0 °F). So, this would only apply to Canada in-shore and Mid-West in the US. Along the

Stus-List Re: Cruising Gulf Coast

Dennis, that sounds great! I envy you! Richard 1985 C 37 CB; out for repairs Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255 On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 11:32:57 AM EDT, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: Getting underway

Stus-List Re: Cruising Gulf Coast

How long will you stay in Bermuda, Joel? I’m hoping to get out of Newport on the 31st and head there.Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA    02840http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260On Oct 18, 2023, at 12:39, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:Sounds like

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Sizing an inverter

If it helps, think of the inverter as a special kind of extension cord. It passes power from Point A to Point B. It does not create or store power. It needs to be bigger than the expected load put on it. The batteries need to be up to the task, but they do not create any power, they store it.

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: winter storage

In Maryland most boats are hauled mast up if they get hauled at all and I have never heard of anyone doing anything to the rigging. FYI YMMV Joe Coquina From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:19 AM To: 'Stus-List' Cc: Hoyt, Mike Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re:

Stus-List Re: Cruising Gulf Coast

Sounds like fun! We are planning to leave for Bermuda Monday. After a stop over, we head to the Carib for the winter before returning to Bermuda in April to hopefully stage a Med crossing mid May. Joel Hylas 49 Rule One Former owner The Office C 35/3 On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 12:17 PM CHARLES

Stus-List Re: Cruising Gulf Coast

That's inspiring. I am considering racing to Baltimore this Saturday, but the weather looks shitty; winds on the nose, 14 to 25 knots, and rainy, temps 57 to 65 for a four to five hour long race. I'll probably work inside the cabin on projects and daysail if the sun comes out. Chuck

Stus-List Re: Sizing an inverter

Richard, My point is that one should not size an inverter relative a battery, but size it to ones expected needs.Folks often mix up or misuse terminology.If the maximum power consumed from an electric coffee pot is 1000 Watts. Then one would need at least a 1kW inverter, but should

Stus-List Cruising Gulf Coast

Getting underway in the morning for 11 days of cruising to Pensacola and back. Weather looks good. Initial itinerary is: Gulfport, MS Pelican Cove on south side of Dauphin Island, AL Big Lagoon near Pensacola, FL Navarre Beach, FL Pensacola area for 2-4 days Head home -- Dennis C. Touche'

Stus-List Re: Wet Vac

I bring a small wet vac from home for "big" jobs or wet jobs. However, I keep a 12 VDC car vac with cigarette lighter plug on board for use underway. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated

Stus-List Re: winter storage

Re mast up. A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in a winter storm. He now has no mast. With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat from blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in three areas. The boat was on a

Stus-List Re: winter storage

Good question. Should you loosen the rig for winter storage? I've been advised to leave the rig tension alone unless you cranked it up to banjo tight and can play tunes on it. If you tensioned the rig for racing, you might want to remove any excessive tension, a turn, but unless it's bar

Stus-List Re: Wet Vac

Agree re wet vac. Best tool for removing fouled bilge water if you have a crankcase oil spill. Just remember to remove the filter when you use as a wet vac. Get Outlook for Android From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday,

Stus-List Re: winter storage

Leave it. I assume you are concerned about creep of the rods? If so, any metal creep under load occurs in the very early stages. Regardless, the at rest load on the rigging is not at a level to cause any measurable creep Jeff Laman 81 C Ludington, Mi Get Outlook for

Stus-List Re: Sizing an inverter

I recommend you size your inverter at 2x anticipated load. Also, if you use a lithium battery the internal BMS output may limit draw. My 200 ah lithium has a 100 ah limiter, do max output of inverter 100x 12 = 1,200 watts. Get Outlook for Android

Stus-List Wet Vac

I think I've stated before that my all-time favorite tool out of all my battery tools and corded tools is a small corded wet/vac. It has a small, all plastic tank and large and strong motor. I took off the castors and glued a piece of carpet to the bottom, so it dosn't scratch the varnished

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: best coffee making setup on a boat

I recommend a SS percolater., about $35 on Amazon. Order the basket filters from Melita. A good SS thermos will keep coffee warm but it is also easy to reheat. Starbucks sells Via, quality single use instant packets about $1 each. Get Outlook for Android

Stus-List Re: winter storage

In my experience, loosening results in more shaking. I keep mine tensioned, including about 500 psi on the backstay. From: Bob Mann via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 9:45 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Bob Mann Subject: Stus-List winter storage Here in Michigan it's time to

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: best coffee making setup on a boat

With the stove top coffee perc, you need to grind coffee a little courser so you don't end up needing a spoon to drink it.  :-) Our crews all use Contigo coffee mugs, different colour for each person.  They keep the coffee hot for hours, are super durable and do not leak!  As a bonus, they can

Stus-List Re: winter storage

I keep my boat in Ketchikan Alaska all winter with a dehumidifier running. I remive the foresail and store in the cabin, cover main. I have not adjusted rigging. I'm interested in seeing replys to this topic. Get Outlook for Android

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: best coffee making setup on a boat

I also have a stove top espresso maker. $35 on Amazon. Starbucks Verona roast works well or for esspresso. Get Outlook for Android From: Jeff Nelson via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 6:41:44 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Stus-List winter storage

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those who store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann MysticPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: best coffee making setup on a boat

For me, coffee is a personal taste you get used to. The french press flavor, is great, but too much to clean up for me. (I'll have to check the newer model press suggested by Josh.) I keep a $12) 12 cup electric Mr Coffee on the boat for when we have shorepower. Bought during my refit while

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Sizing an inverter

We have an old fashioned electric percolater we run off the inverter. It draws abut 75 amps for 3-4 minutes, so not much worse than the hair dryer. Joel On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 9:10 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > You can, you just have to think it through. >

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: best coffee making setup on a boat

I also use stove top perc.  Love the smell of coffee brewing in the am.  I use a big hand grinder/mill so it only takes a few moments to grind a batch.  Beans come from beanville (Halifax, NS) usually as they are handy and the people there are great. I've only had one problem with the stove

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: best coffee making setup on a boat

I use a stove top percolator with a disc filter at the bottom of the basket. It heats the cabin nicely in the am. I use a variety of beans. One of the best is Vita coffee, a Seattle roaster. Get Outlook for Android From: Della Barba,

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Sizing an inverter

Not about coffee, but… There are now available vacuum cleaners that run off 18 V (20 V?) used for power tools (you can get a Dyson version, but then the whole discussion about saving costs is out to lunch). If you have a power tool on board, a vacuum like that can save your house battery a

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: best coffee making setup on a boat

I use Rise Up beans from a local roaster in Easton, a Bosch electric grinder, and a French press. Joe Coquina From: Richard Bush via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 8:59 AM To: Stus-List Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER ; Richard Bush Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: best coffee making setup

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Sizing an inverter

You can, you just have to think it through. My wife can dry her hair, that draws about 50 amps for 5 minutes or so. I can’t run my cabin heater at 500 or 1000 watts off the battery, it would run the battery dead before the boat got very warm. Given most of our C were designed to be relatively

Stus-List Re: best coffee making setup on a boat

I agree with Chuck, this is a great conversation and deserves its own heading and link! I've learned more about coffee here than I ever knew...we use a Walmart 4 cup electric drip coffee maker, and thought we were being cool! Ha! Richard 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584 Richard N. Bush Law

Stus-List Re: Sizing an inverter

Paul, If I understand your point, it is that we shouldn't be relying on battery power for any appliances or coffee pots...etc.; is there any alternative that doesn't involve solar? thanks! Richard 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584:  Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite

Stus-List Re: Sizing an inverter

Hi Chuck, First off, 12V * 100 A*hr = 1200 W*hr. But keep in mind that A*hr battery ratings for a 100 A*hr battery is tested typical at 5 amps(or 0.05C). That is your 100 A*hr is 5A * 20hr. At this rate the battery is only providing 12.5V * 5A = 63 Watts.At higher current loads, your