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From: David Risch via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 6:10:39 PM
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Wow
ot boat for a
> set of new Lewmar 40 ST that are far superior for our purposes. On top of
> the ease of servicing and better sizing for the boat removing the motors
> took away a LOT of unnecessary weight
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> Just a story I thought I would share
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> We are ve
Wow...mucho emails about winch servicing. Almost as popular as what anchor is
best?
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Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 8:13 PM
To: Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List
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Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C
You can get a winch service kit from
ndles are new Harken
OneTouch which I really like. Fast in and out of the winch and the grips run
free.
Jeff
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Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 7:46 AM
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diameter sheets.
Jim
Former C 34 1982
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Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 11:46:05 PM
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Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C
Over the winter, I r
a
> set of new Lewmar 40 ST that are far superior for our purposes. On top of
> the ease of servicing and better sizing for the boat removing the motors
> took away a LOT of unnecessary weight
>
>
>
> Just a story I thought I would share
>
>
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> We are very happy wi
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Cc: Jeffrey A. Laman
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C
Hello all,
I have attempted to search the archives for information and opinions on new
primary winches for C, but was not able to locate a discussion. If
there has been, my apologies. It has become apparent
Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS
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Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 3:23 PM
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Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C
Some other thoughts: For whatever you decide, believe both WM and Defender have
BOGO days
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Cc: Jeffrey A. Laman ; CHARLES SCHEAFFER
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C
Servicing winches is very worthwhile. Can't believe you race and don't service
your winches at least annually. A skipper must take steps to ensure the boat
is properly prepared for the crew. You will learn
re far superior for our purposes. On top of
> the ease of servicing and better sizing for the boat removing the motors took
> away a LOT of unnecessary weight
>
> Just a story I thought I would share
>
> We are very happy with all of our Lewmar winches BTW
>
> Mike Hoyt
: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 1:00 PM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Nathan Post
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C
Hi Jeff,
I replaced my primaries on my 34 with Anderson ST 50 winches in 2000. They seem
sized correctly to me - I certainly wouldn't go smaller. They work fine for
hauling in my 135
et!
https://www.ewincher.com/en/
Jeff
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Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 2:23 PM
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Some other thoughts:
For whatever you decide, belie
, 2023 3:23 PM
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Cc: nausetbe...@optonline.net
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C
Some other thoughts: For whatever you decide, believe both WM and Defender have
BOGO days on winches during the year which could help reduce the wallet pain.
Electric winches are more than
Cc:* Nathan Post
*Subject:* Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C
Hi Jeff,
I replaced my primaries on my 34 with Anderson ST 50 winches
in 2000. They seem sized correctly to me - I certainly
wouldn't go smaller. They work fine for hauling in my 135
Genoa fully loaded up
> Thanks for this data point! I wish it were possible to test run some
> winches before buying -- hah! ST50 seems large, but better a little large
> than two small.
> Jeff
> --
> *From:* Nathan Post via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 12, 2
Caution on a late release of a genoa. The boat has a 155% North 3Di,
which has been raced 13 times. The last race, on the last tack, leeward
crew did a late release, resulting in the spreader punching a hole just
above the spreader patch. Yes, North is going to add a little more
height to
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Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 1:00 PM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Nathan Post
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C Hi Jeff,
I replaced my primaries on my 34 with Anderson ST 50 winches in 2000. They seem
sized correctly to me - I certainly wouldn't go smaller. They work fine for
hauling
On my C mark I, I replaced the primary winches with Lewmar 42's. I used to
sail/race with a 170 but now our class has limited the largest sail to 155. 62
yo and still occasionally single-hand in races.
Letting the jib/genoa backwind so the wind is pushing the bow into the turn
before
Tacking advice: Always remove any slack from the lazy sheet after each tack.
When you turn the boat, the release is more important than the sheeting in.
Start your tack, turning the boat ready to release, then wait till about a
third of the genoa is backwinded, release that side and slow
C 34+ Xanax
rtar...@wavecable.com
Bremerton, WA
From: Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 7:46 AM
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Cc: Jeffrey A. Laman
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C
Hello all,
I have attempted to search the archives
I am glad the subject of tacking a large genoa came up. I have a great deal of
trouble with my 145 genoa trying to get it so it does not require extensive
winching. What tends to happen is that the clew of the genoa folds back on
itself at the mast as you come head to wind and then gets
lternative for people who do not
want to make the investment in electric winches.
Brian
From: Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 1:25 PM
To: 'Stus-List'
Cc: Hoyt, Mike ; Jeffrey A. Laman
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C
Mike,
Thanks for the data point
Cc: Nathan Post
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C
Hi Jeff,
I replaced my primaries on my 34 with Anderson ST 50 winches in 2000. They seem
sized correctly to me - I certainly wouldn't go smaller. They work fine for
hauling in my 135 Genoa fully loaded up but it is about all a typical crew
the aging muscles factor...
Jeff
From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 12:48 PM
To: 'Stus-List'
Cc: Hoyt, Mike
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C
Hi Jeff
We have a Frers 33. The foretriangle dimensions are similar. On F33 I=45.0,
J
winches is very
difficult. I need to look into new winches for sure.
From: Richard Bush via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 12:59 PM
To: Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List
Cc: Richard Bush
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C
I second Charlie's points about
Hi Jeff,
I replaced my primaries on my 34 with Anderson ST 50 winches in 2000. They
seem sized correctly to me - I certainly wouldn't go smaller. They work
fine for hauling in my 135 Genoa fully loaded up but it is about all a
typical crew can handle by themselves. If I was to do it again, I
I second Charlie's points about the timing; it took my a while to learn to turn
the wheel more slowly to allow the trimmers to get the line in!
1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584;
Richard
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Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255
since then so be prepared for sticker shock
Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS
www.hoytsailing.com
From: Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 11:46 AM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Jeffrey A. Laman
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winch Size for C
Hello all, I have attempted to search
I still have the original headsail winches on my 1995 C 36 XL/kcb--Lewmar
50s self-tailing 2 speed IIRC--although I moved them forward for my local
racing needs. I also added a set of Lewmar 44s to make kite handling more
reasonable. If this combination of 'power' is not enough, I need to get
Jeff,
The second Enterprise was a 1978 C 34 and I believe she had Barient 24s. We
added some Lewmars when we raced spinnaker.
I like Richard’s electric idea, but I’m not sure you’d have room below the deck
for the motors. Suggest you talk to Lewmar, they may have bigger winches that
will us
Jeff; We solved this issue on my 38MKIIC several years ago.I replaced mine with 4 speed Pontos and we've never looked back.I think that Karver purchased the Pontos technology. They have very convincing videos and these winches work just like they say.There are no buttons to push for gear changing,
Previous owner replaced with Anderson 52’s. IMO Oversized. If that helps.
I kinda like’m though.
Jon Pratt
35-3
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Jeffrey, I feel your pain...I have a 37, and it has gi-normous winches, I
downsized from a 155 to a 135 just to ease the energy load needed...(75 this
month)
If I were getting new winches, I would go electric! They will increase the sale
price of the boat some day too!
Richard
1985 C 37 CB;
Hello all,
I have attempted to search the archives for information and opinions on new
primary winches for C, but was not able to locate a discussion. If there
has been, my apologies. It has become apparent that the old, Lewmar,
self-tailing, 2-spd winches that came on my boat are not
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