Stus-List Re: Winch Sealant suggestions

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

And specifically, use Bed-It brand.  Others are ok, but not as good as
Bed-It.

Bruce Whitmore
1994 C 37/40+
"Astralis"
Madeira Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092ecare ok, but the

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 7:22 PM Dean McNeill via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the great advice folks… Butyl tape (and nothing else) it is!
> Dean
>
> BarraWind
> 1980 C 34
> Halifax NS
>
> On Apr 10, 2024, at 8:13 PM, Jeffrey A. Laman  wrote:
>
> Butyl is by far the best option. Removal of winch in future will be far
> easier. Butyl is an excellent sealant. There is no reason to overdo the
> sealing here anyway. Leaks drip down to bilge without adversely affecting
> anything.
>
> Jeff Laman
> 1981 C Harmony
> Ludington, Mich
>
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> *From:* Dean McNeill via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2024 5:42:22 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Dean McNeill 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Winch Sealant suggestions
>
> I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient
> primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go.
> I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing
> plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go.
>
> Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between
> winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have
> anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes.
>
> Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood
> core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under
> bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove
> someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else?
>
> What says the C brain trust?
>
> Thanks, Dean
>
> BarraWind
> 1980 C 34
> Halifax NS
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> 
> Thanks for your help.
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>
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Stus-List Re: Winch Sealant suggestions

[Nathan Post via CnC-List]

Agree with everyone on butyl tape.  Also I suggest countersinking the holes
slightly to give a small shoulder area where the butyl can sit around the
boat.  Put the bolts through the base of the winch and wrap them with a
small rolled snake of tape right where they come through.  You can also put
a layer of tape on the entire bottom but it probably isn't needed and as
others have mentioned watch out for any drain holes.

With the butyl tape, you need to come back several times over at least a
few days and tighten the bolts further as it relaxes and flows into place.
Then trim the excess that comes out around the outside before putting the
top of the winch on.

Note, not all butyl tapes are created equal. As has been recommended by
many on this list, bed-it butyl tape is what I have been the happiest with:
https://bed-it.com/?gad_source=1=CjwKCAjw8diwBhAbEiwA7i_sJfsZj1Ga-q3dJepvUm9eG958mdXQ3BBk-yhNqhTZT0OAmtG8fOke1xoCytoQAvD_BwE

Nathan Post
S/V Wisper
C 34 KCB
Portland ME
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Stus-List Re: Winch Sealant suggestions

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Butyl tape or Life Products LifeSeal.

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 4:42 PM Dean McNeill via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient
> primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go.
> I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing
> plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go.
>
> Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between
> winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have
> anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes.
>
> Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood
> core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under
> bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove
> someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else?
>
> What says the C brain trust?
>
> Thanks, Dean
>
> BarraWind
> 1980 C 34
> Halifax NS
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
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> Stu
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Stus-List Re: Winch Sealant suggestions

[ed vanderkruk via CnC-List]

You might find grooves in the base of the winch which should be kept clear
of butyl to allow water to drain out of the body of the winch. Otherwise
water pools up to, maybe, the level of the lower gear sets.


Ed


On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 7:21 p.m. Dean McNeill via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the great advice folks… Butyl tape (and nothing else) it is!
> Dean
>
> BarraWind
> 1980 C 34
> Halifax NS
>
> On Apr 10, 2024, at 8:13 PM, Jeffrey A. Laman  wrote:
>
> Butyl is by far the best option. Removal of winch in future will be far
> easier. Butyl is an excellent sealant. There is no reason to overdo the
> sealing here anyway. Leaks drip down to bilge without adversely affecting
> anything.
>
> Jeff Laman
> 1981 C Harmony
> Ludington, Mich
>
> Get Outlook for Android 
> --
> *From:* Dean McNeill via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2024 5:42:22 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Dean McNeill 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Winch Sealant suggestions
>
> I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient
> primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go.
> I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing
> plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go.
>
> Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between
> winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have
> anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes.
>
> Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood
> core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under
> bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove
> someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else?
>
> What says the C brain trust?
>
> Thanks, Dean
>
> BarraWind
> 1980 C 34
> Halifax NS
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> 
> Thanks for your help.
> Stu
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Winch Sealant suggestions

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Thanks for the great advice folks… Butyl tape (and nothing else) it is!
Dean

BarraWind
1980 C 34
Halifax NS

> On Apr 10, 2024, at 8:13 PM, Jeffrey A. Laman  wrote:
> 
> Butyl is by far the best option. Removal of winch in future will be far 
> easier. Butyl is an excellent sealant. There is no reason to overdo the 
> sealing here anyway. Leaks drip down to bilge without adversely affecting 
> anything.
> 
> Jeff Laman 
> 1981 C Harmony 
> Ludington, Mich
> 
> Get Outlook for Android 
> From: Dean McNeill via CnC-List 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 5:42:22 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Dean McNeill 
> Subject: Stus-List Winch Sealant suggestions
>  
> I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient primary 
> winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go. I’ve 
> removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing plates 
> (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go. 
> 
> Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between winch 
> base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have anything 
> other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes.
> 
> Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood core 
> at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under bases, but 
> I never like using that under something I may need to remove someday! Should 
> I use 4200? Or something else?
> 
> What says the C brain trust?
> 
> Thanks, Dean
> 
> BarraWind
> 1980 C 34
> Halifax NS
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>  
> Thanks for your help.
> Stu

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Stus-List Re: Winch Sealant suggestions

[Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List]

Butyl is by far the best option. Removal of winch in future will be far easier. 
Butyl is an excellent sealant. There is no reason to overdo the sealing here 
anyway. Leaks drip down to bilge without adversely affecting anything.

Jeff Laman
1981 C Harmony
Ludington, Mich

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From: Dean McNeill via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 5:42:22 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dean McNeill 
Subject: Stus-List Winch Sealant suggestions

I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient primary 
winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go. I’ve removed 
the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing plates (probably 
overkill) and I'm ready to go.

Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between winch 
base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have anything other 
than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes.

Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood core at 
all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under bases, but I 
never like using that under something I may need to remove someday! Should I 
use 4200? Or something else?

What says the C brain trust?

Thanks, Dean

BarraWind
1980 C 34
Halifax NS
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Stus-List Re: Winch Sealant suggestions

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

I'd use good quality Butyl Tape, around the bolts and in the bolt holes.

Ken H.

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 18:43, Dean McNeill via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient
> primary winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go.
> I’ve removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing
> plates (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go.
>
> Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between
> winch base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have
> anything other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes.
>
> Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood
> core at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under
> bases, but I never like using that under something I may need to remove
> someday! Should I use 4200? Or something else?
>
> What says the C brain trust?
>
> Thanks, Dean
>
> BarraWind
> 1980 C 34
> Halifax NS
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and
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> Thanks for your help.
> Stu
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