On 1/12/07 7:37 AM, Shu Hung (Koala) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/12/07, Ole Tange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I would love to see, however, is a website where you can pre-order,
so you will be the first to get a phone.
I agree that a pre-order form or anything similar is good.
At
E.g.: I've used a Sidekick and now use a Nokia 9500 intensivly, and I
seldom go over 1-2MB per day (despite it having EGPRS, which is a
qualitive jump).
...In Canada, at $.03 per kb, 1-2 mb per day would add up to somewhere
in the neighborhood of $1000-2000/month. We have awful data plans
here
Since my last message I've found out a little more about the upcoming
BluOnyx from Agere, and it sounds like a really good candidate for bridging
WiFi to the neo1973 over Bluetooth.
Here's an Engadget post describing the device a month ago:
On 1/13/07, Andreas Kostyrka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If your phone can receive data over a voice channel, you have less of
a reason to pay your service provider for a separate data package.
This would be especially nice for someone like me who only subcribes
to the bare bones plan, but
* Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070112 17:38]:
In the meantime, I was thinking about how I could get around the lack of
wifi last night and something occurred to me... Would it be possible with
this phone to set up a PPP dialup server on my machine at home, and get
dialup access to the
On 1/12/07 4:53 PM, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Incidentally, I'm also interested in the official word, if any, on the
new 4G micro-SDs. I _was_ glad to see Sean's micro-SD can go to 2GB
now. (Or that's what my vendors tell me) comment, though I would be
more comfortable if FIC
It has been discussed on the list that it might be useful to have
connector for line-in. So far I have found that the price would be too
high, as the device will then have to have yet another connector. But
then I wondered: Would it be possible to use the same physical
connector?
I have never
* Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070113 17:58]:
E.g.: I've used a Sidekick and now use a Nokia 9500 intensivly, and I
seldom go over 1-2MB per day (despite it having EGPRS, which is a
qualitive jump).
...In Canada, at $.03 per kb, 1-2 mb per day would add up to somewhere
in the neighborhood of
In a lot of programs you have to enter text. When working on the road
it is sometimes awkward to enter text. In these situations it may be
easier to say something. Every text field should support recording a
message. If possible it should try to convert the speech to text, but
the speech should
Just a test, to see, if the server is down or if there are no new
messages for over a day now ...
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Hi list, just want to share this simple idea:
In order to save some battery and still be able to reveive a call to a
BT headset, the Neo 1973 should be able to automatically turn on
bluetooth when the phone rings, and then connect to the headset (of
course this should be optional).
It might
Thanks for posting. You might also want to check out my
blog on the topic:
http://weblogs.java.net/blog/terrencebarr/
In summary, I think iPhone misses the point in multiple ways.
OpenMoko still has lots of room to grow.
-- Terrence
Christopher Heiny wrote:
Some of you may have already
Subject: Re: A FIC phone with a real keyboard - Was: OpenMoko ON the
iPhone
Date: sab 13 gen 07 07:40:39 +
Quoting Sean Moss-Pultz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
On 1/12/07 3:23 AM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My question is: are there plans for FIC to produce a
On 1/13/07 9:03 PM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you know if FIC is bound by the same idiot rules, or I can purchase
a portable with a clean hard drive? I might be interested in a GR3
model.
This is totally out of our control. These kinds of rules are
company-to-Microsoft,
On 1/13/07, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyhow, I've been thinking about it, and at 9600 baud or whatever it
wouldn't be worth bothering with. I think what I'll do is build a
little pocket sized battery powered usb hub with an attached usb
802.11 dongle. While I'm at it, I'll probably put an
Phone spam is when a computer dials your number and when you take the
call a recorded message is played. Phone spam is not that widespread
yet, but will probably be when flat rate phones (such as VoIP to VoIP
calls) become more widespread.
To fight phone spam a human screening facility could be
* Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070113 17:58]:
E.g.: I've used a Sidekick and now use a Nokia 9500 intensivly, and I
seldom go over 1-2MB per day (despite it having EGPRS, which is a
qualitive jump).
...In Canada, at $.03 per kb, 1-2 mb per day would add up to somewhere
Well, that's about a factor
Am Montag, 15. Januar 2007 14:50 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz:
Dnia sobota, 13 stycznia 2007 14:04, Ole Tange napisał:
I also would expect FIC already has at least one distributer in EU
that can cover all of EU. From a shipping cost perspective it will
probably make sense, too.
From my
If your phone can receive data over a voice channel, you have less of
a reason to pay your service provider for a separate data package.
This would be especially nice for someone like me who only subcribes
to the bare bones plan, but still has minutes left over at the end
of the month and has
Using the microphone we should be able to do some noise cancellation.
Maybe when playing music the Neo could record the ambient noise and
try cancelling that.
/Ole
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On 1/13/07, Oleg Gusev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Samstag, 13. Januar 2007 01:53 schrieb Mikko Rauhala:
Again I'm no official source, but as far as I see, they've consistently
talked about it being global direct sale, whether it's Jan or Feb...
What about VAT, customs clearance and warranty
On 1/12/07 9:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Sean, please tell your team that we (well some of us at least) support your
decision to delay the release until you are happy with the unit.
Thanks guys!
One thing: Please remove the January statement on the openmoko website.
On 1/12/07 1:14 AM, Sven Neuhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If there's enough interest, it might be cool to just sell the mapping data
and see if we can support an open source mapping engineer. Is this something
people would pay for?
Yes, I would be interested in paying for car navigation
I'd like it if I could connect the phone to my Linux box and share my
internet connection with the phone. Previous attempts with different
devices failed for me. If this process could be simplified with the
Openmoko, that would be great.
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Idea:
In order to get the Neo 1973 to stay in sync with different devices
and PIMs, someone could make a Opensync plugin that supports whatever
Openmoko is using (is openmoko syncml compatible? IRMC?) I don't know,
anyhow - someone should make sure everything works out the way it
should with the
Sounds like what you really want is a secure way to log in that's more
convenient than a password -- something like a fingerprint sensor.
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Am Montag, 15. Januar 2007 15:44 schrieb Andreas Kostyrka:
* Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070115 15:35]:
On 1/12/07 3:23 AM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My question is: are there plans for FIC to produce a QWERTY keyboard
model with native openmoko? (Possibly with wifi
On 1/13/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/12/07 9:26 AM, Heilpern, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can only speculate, but I would expect a JTAG port to be made
available --
probably on the phone itself, but failing that, through the hackers
lunchbox
(or was that toolbox?)
* Tomasz Zielinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070115 15:07]:
2007/1/14, Andreas Kostyrka [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
c) without being online all the time, you probably need to use it
interactivly. 144B/s is way to slow for sensible feedback in the 1-2
seconds a user might accept to wait.
Well, think about
This would be great -- make the connection as easy as possible via my Linux
box. Even if it was just a shell script to set this up -- answer a few
questions (what is the outgoing interface? eth0, eth1, wlan0...) and the
device is ready to plug-and-use.
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be seeing you.
On 18:32:59 2007-01-11 Paul Jimenez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Offhand, any idea what the size of the first production run will be
like? I'm really looking forward to the phone and want to make sure I
can get one :)
--pj
I won't hold out for the first run unless it has WiFi or another way
On Friday 12 January 2007 05:32, Gervais Mulongoy scribbled in crayon on the
back of a kid's menu:
another solution to that could be the use of scalable graphics the way
its done with svg or the way it is done in enlightenment.
That sounds like a much better solution than the monoculture
Salve Alessandro!
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, Alessandro Iurlano wrote:
As I am mainly a low level programmer I will probably try to put my hands on
the Neo at kernel level like customizing
the linux kernel with patches or even try to program the Neo with my own
kernel.
:)))
I think that the
On Jan 10, 2007, at 2:47 PM, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
With 64M flash and 1G card?
Bigger flash capacity cards will come. And your Neo can keep getting
bigger and bigger cards, while that iPhone is going to be stuck with
4 or 8.
Besides, there are only 3 capacities of portable music
Torsten Röhl writes:
Why - QWERTY keypad ? we have a wide screen 2,8 inch and i
love the new iphone concept without qwerty keypad. I hope that
the next neo1973 generation phones are also iphone like (without qwerty
keypad) ... i think a neo1973 next generation phone with qwerty keypad is
just
On Friday 12 January 2007 06:25, Ole Tange scribbled in crayon on the back
of a kid's menu:
On 1/12/07, Gervais Mulongoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think we should create a To-Do list or a Wish List, so we can track
the sort of features that would be nice to have in the phone. I think
we
On 1/15/07, Dwayne Bonson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've read a few questions and comments from the list archives about wifi
with the Neo but it seems most are looking at USB as an alternative but
that's not really mobile if you need to carry a powered USB hub around
also and then find somewhere
On 1/13/07 2:04 PM, Ole Tange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/13/07, Oleg Gusev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Samstag, 13. Januar 2007 01:53 schrieb Mikko Rauhala:
Again I'm no official source, but as far as I see, they've consistently
talked about it being global direct sale, whether it's Jan
On 1/15/07 5:50 PM, Christopher Heiny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 12 January 2007 06:25, Ole Tange scribbled in crayon on the back
of a kid's menu:
On 1/12/07, Gervais Mulongoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think we should create a To-Do list or a Wish List, so we can track
the sort of
Sean,
I don't know if this is helpful. It seems that support for zd1211 chipset on
linux is quite good. You may find the open source driver here:
http://zd1211.ath.cx/. If I am not mistaken, their driver have been included
kernel since 2.6.18. Also, the driver site have a list of WiFi adapter
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Brad Midgley schreef:
Hi
I'm working on bluetooth audio--see bluetooth-alsa.sf.net
http://bluetooth-alsa.sf.net.
What sort of software are you using for bluetooth voice? Is it combined
into some other services or standalone?
We're also
Since devices like the neo 1973 and the iphone don't have a keypad, I
thought of an idea that could provide a close substitute.
How about making a screen protector type of overlay that is
transparent at the top, but the bottom section would have raised bumps
in a keypad layout? I'm thinking of
Hi all,
Brad, i was about to poke the list for some Bluetooth question, it looks
like you were faster than i was ;-)
For those who don't know me (everybody, i guess ;-) ), i'm working with
the Bluez guys(including Brad ;-) ) on integrating Voice headsets
support under Linux. This kind of
I think you may add your Ideas to this page:
http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/Ideas
This would be a better way to collaborate ideas.
Yet another non-developer ^^
Koala Yeung
On 1/14/07, Ryan Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ideas:
1. (sort of like boost mobile but,) Locate your buddies
On 15/01/07, Gervais Mulongoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heh, until the phone spam operators start using basic voice recognition and
to defeat the simple riddle :p
Spammers don't do email address de-obfuscation because it takes too
much processing time; I can't see them doing this in practice
WiFi is not made for realtime data, even less than IP. You have to share
the bandwidth with others and it eats too much juice.
For local wireless telephone capabilities i'd prefer DECT, and for VoIP
convert that.
For wireless IP connection in the living room, i'd use a bluetooth AP.
For bulk
Salve [cc]smart!
Your mail make me ask what consumes more power
- BT dataconnection and Sip client on the mobil
- Sip client on an external box and Dect audio connection to the mobil
?
[cc]smart schrieb am Montag, den 15. Januar 2007 um 20:26h:
WiFi is not made for realtime data, even less
Koen
What's the openmoko developers' take on pulseaudio? I'm looking at how a
bluetooth pulse plugin would work out. fwiw, pulse could run as its own
service or be embedded in another service.
In terms of audiorouting, wouldn't a gstreamer based solution be more
flexible?
pulse provides
Dave Crossland wrote:
On 15/01/07, Gervais Mulongoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heh, until the phone spam operators start using basic voice
recognition and
to defeat the simple riddle :p
Spammers don't do email address de-obfuscation because it takes too
much processing time; I can't see them
I'm in the US, in New York city. What networks can I use a Neo1973
phone on? Do all GSM carriers accept all GSM phones?
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Derek Pressnall wrote:
Since devices like the neo 1973 and the iphone don't have a keypad, I
thought of an idea that could provide a close substitute.
How about making a screen protector type of overlay that is
transparent at the top, but the bottom section would have raised bumps
in a keypad
Sean Moss-Pultz schrieb:
On 1/13/07 2:04 PM, Ole Tange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If FIC are smart they will sell to the EU citizens from an EU address.
This will make the customs clearance and warranty problems disappear,
as EU has the same minimum standards for warranty (see
Marcel de Jong schrieb:
I'd like it if I could connect the phone to my Linux box and share my
internet connection with the phone. Previous attempts with different
devices failed for me. If this process could be simplified with the
Openmoko, that would be great.
Get bluetooth for your PC,
Derek Pressnall schrieb:
Then you would still be using the touch screen
for input (pressure applied to the bumps would transfer through the
overlay to the touch screen), but the keypad pattern would show up
through the bottom part of the overlay (with the bumps) where you
could still blind dial.
Grahame Falvey writes:
Is the microSD slot accessable while the phone is operational? Or
does one have to remove the battery and hence power down the device in
order to swap out the card?
As far as we know, it requires powering-down the phone.
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On 15/01/07, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Grahame Falvey writes:
Is the microSD slot accessable while the phone is operational? Or
does one have to remove the battery and hence power down the device in
order to swap out the card?
As far as we know, it requires powering-down the
Marcel de Jong wrote:
On 1/15/07, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm in the US, in New York city. What networks can I use a Neo1973
phone on? Do all GSM carriers accept all GSM phones?
In contrast to CDMA phones, a GSM phone isn't normally locked to a
carrier, only the GSM-chip (SIMcard)
Mike wrote:
Marcel de Jong wrote:
ps.
I really don't like the fact that 'reply' doesn't work on this
mailinglist. I have to add the mailaddress myself. (this is the only
mailinglist that I know, that does that this way)
You'll want to be careful here - is an odd thing that people get really
Marcel de Jong wrote:
On 1/15/07, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm in the US, in New York city. What networks can I use a Neo1973
phone on? Do all GSM carriers accept all GSM phones?
In contrast to CDMA phones, a GSM phone isn't normally locked to a
carrier, only the GSM-chip (SIMcard)
Grahame Falvey wrote:
On 15/01/07, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Grahame Falvey writes:
Is the microSD slot accessable while the phone is operational? Or
does one have to remove the battery and hence power down the device in
order to swap out the card?
As far as we know, it requires
Paul Bohme wrote:
Mike wrote:
Marcel de Jong wrote:
ps.
I really don't like the fact that 'reply' doesn't work on this
mailinglist. I have to add the mailaddress myself. (this is the only
mailinglist that I know, that does that this way)
You'll want to be careful here - is an odd thing
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Paul Bohme wrote:
Mike wrote:
Marcel de Jong wrote:
ps.
I really don't like the fact that 'reply' doesn't work on this
mailinglist. I have to add the mailaddress myself. (this is the only
mailinglist that I know, that does that this way)
Mike writes:
Yes I know that, I still vote for subject tags and reply-list.
I don't really care about subject tags, but would prefer reply-list.
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