Re: stylus alternative

2007-09-10 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 07:46:29 +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone else see my vision? or am i insane? Yes, even thought you be able to cut your finger nails this way (now that IS insane). Those caps used to protect your fingers (aptly named Fingerhut i.e. finger hat in

Re: stylus alternative

2007-09-10 Thread Raphael Jacquot
Robin Paulson wrote: so, i've been following the discussion on finger-based vs. stylus-based apps. and i thought it might be a good idea to come up with some ideas for something between the two: a short (20-30mm long) piece of kit, attached to the finger end it would not be gripped between

Re: Yet another keypad idea

2007-09-10 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
For a german keyboard you need at least 26+10+3+35=74 signs - and what much concepts do not yet handle are capital letters, or a shift key. If it should be really intuitive, you'd have to use special shapes for capital letters, because doing shift and typing the non-capital letter to do a capital

Re: stylus alternative

2007-09-10 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Hehe, we just talked in the german irc channel about that. The korean company cowon (digital audio and video products) offers a interesting small touchscreen device for video- and audioplayback. For their player the use a very interesting stylus which is about the same size as a guitar pick. The

Re: webkit do_compile failed

2007-09-10 Thread Alessandro Iurlano
On 9/9/07, Emre Turkay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, After clean make update-makefile make setup make update make openmoko-devel-image I get the following error, any ideas? Thanks, emre NOTE: Running task 2688 of 3300 (ID: 1455,

Fwd: OpenMoko 2007.2 on Palm TX

2007-09-10 Thread freac_check
Hi again... I tried to run OpenMoko on the TX and I was able to run the 2007.1 version, but I want to run OpenMoko 2007.2 The Problem is that I need a *.ext2 image or a kernel with jffs2 support. Is there a way to get a *ext2 image of 2007.2? How can I build this? Stephan -- GMX FreeMail: 1

Re: ATI to provide specs (was: Re: SMedia 3362)

2007-09-10 Thread Harald Welte
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 10:23:26AM -0700, Shawn Rutledge wrote: On 9/6/07, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It may be worth talking with ATI again. Since this announcement, I don't think it is too far fetched to at least get the same deal you currently have with SMedia. I wouldn't be

Re: ATI to provide specs (was: Re: SMedia 3362)

2007-09-10 Thread Mikko Rauhala
ma, 2007-09-10 kello 15:20 +0800, Harald Welte kirjoitti: guys, as I indicated before, we already have the best possible support from Smedia. Not only have we some promises or statements, but we actually have signed a contract with them, binding them to support us to the utmost level. As

Re: ATI to provide specs (was: Re: SMedia 3362)

2007-09-10 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Monday 10 September 2007 09:20:54 Harald Welte wrote: So what exactly is not enough? You will get 100% free software drivers, down to the latest bit, no proprietary firmware whatsoever, plus hardware documentation that will be prepared by OpenMoko ? Which part exactly are you missing?

ATT is cruising for a bruising

2007-09-10 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
http://theinquirer.net/?article=42235 But then the Baby Bells are gonners, init?!? By Nick Farrell: Monday 10 September 2007, 07:53 A HUMAN called Jay Levy says he has been stung by Apple's iPhone pact with ATT after he took an Iphone on a Mediterranean cruise. They didn't use their phones,

Re: ATT is cruising for a bruising

2007-09-10 Thread Giles Jones
Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : This not because Apple or ATT are evil. It's actually a bug (or call it a design shortcoming) and could happen to anyone. I'd actually call it ignorance or lack of information from Apple. Apple like to make things simple even though the

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko 2007.2 on Palm TX

2007-09-10 Thread Florian Boor
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I tried to run OpenMoko on the TX and I was able to run the 2007.1 version, but I want to run OpenMoko 2007.2 The Problem is that I need a *.ext2 image or a kernel with jffs2 support. Is there a way to get a *ext2 image of 2007.2? How can I build this? it

RE: OpenMoko 2007.2 on Palm TX

2007-09-10 Thread Heilpern, Mark
Title: Fwd: OpenMoko 2007.2 on Palm TX I have not tried this, but I would think you should be able to mount the jffs2 image on a desktop (using the loopback mechanism), create and mount a similar ext2 image file, and copy everything over. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL

Re: ATI to provide specs

2007-09-10 Thread Jim McDonald
Harald Welte wrote: [...] Which part exactly are you missing? That there are no docs now? Well, there is no GTA02 hardware being shipped now either! And if the community rather wants us to finish the documentation first, and then write the driver: Please let us know. Do you really prefer

Re: ATT is cruising for a bruising

2007-09-10 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:47:26 +0200, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenMoko should probably include some system-wide network access management that avoids huge roaming bills. Quite simply, build in a data counter that you can enter the cost of a data unit and have the phone show you

Re: ATT is cruising for a bruising

2007-09-10 Thread Richard Bennett
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:06:02 +0200, Sander van Grieken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wifi+in china - use Tor Maybe better just not use email at all in that case: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09/10/misuse_of_tor_led_to_embassy_password_breach/ ___

NURBS File

2007-09-10 Thread Esben Stien
I can't seem to find the NURBS schematics for the Neo physical enclosing case on the site. Is this available somewhere? -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e

GPU driver/doc development

2007-09-10 Thread Mikko J Rauhala
On ma, 2007-09-10 at 12:08 +0100, Jim McDonald wrote: Not wishing to be contrary for its own sake, but my answer to your (supposedly rhetorical) question would be 'the docs'. If we had a complete manual then that would be enough for other people to write the driver, whereas if we have a

Re: ATT is cruising for a bruising

2007-09-10 Thread Giles Jones
Sander Van Grieken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Nah it should be more advanced than that. True, but start with the basics. You have to build the logging into the GPRS code. GPRS+roaming - only check mail once a day, only download headers. no images download when browsing GPRS+no roaming -

Tor and China

2007-09-10 Thread Mikko J Rauhala
On ma, 2007-09-10 at 13:42 +0200, Richard Bennett wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:06:02 +0200, Sander van Grieken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wifi+in china - use Tor Maybe better just not use email at all in that case:

Re: ATI to provide specs (was: Re: SMedia 3362)

2007-09-10 Thread Kyle Bassett
On 9/10/07, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 10:23:26AM -0700, Shawn Rutledge wrote: On 9/6/07, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It may be worth talking with ATI again. Since this announcement, I don't think it is too far fetched to at least get the same deal

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko 2007.2 on Palm TX

2007-09-10 Thread freac_check
it should be easy to build such an image with OpenEmbedded. The support for the Palm TX is quite up to date there, and all OpenMoko bits should be covered by OE as well. ok...i want to tried this. so i have to change the MACHINE in local.conf and replace fic-gta01 by palmtx!? greetings,

Re: Apple is going to beat all competitors

2007-09-10 Thread openmoko-comunity
On Friday 07 September 2007 18:53, Marco Barreno wrote: Unfortunately, the $300 base/$450 advanced pricing scheme was a special discount for GTA01. The announced price for GTA02 is $450 for Neo Base and $600 for Neo Advanced; see Sean's New Oceans email:

wiki problem?

2007-09-10 Thread Joshua Layne
Hi, I am unable to verify my email address (and therefore edit pages) - tried twice now (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Confirmemail) and each time the code that was sent was 'invalid' less than two minutes after requesting it (the email claimed it was valid until Septembe3r 17) Any

fixed -- Re: wiki problem?

2007-09-10 Thread Joshua Layne
wow. within a few minutes of sending this, I was sent another confirmation link that worked. thanks for the quick response. joshua On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:13:07 -0700, Joshua Layne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am unable to verify my email address (and therefore edit pages) - tried twice now

Re: stylus alternative

2007-09-10 Thread Derek Pressnall
The carrying strap on a Nintendo DS has a little piece of plastic on the end that is intended to be used as a stylus, although it doesn't have a point on it. Something similar to this but with a more pointy shape could work. On 9/10/07, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, i've been

Re: stylus alternative

2007-09-10 Thread Patrick Beck
Am Montag, den 10.09.2007, 09:52 +0200 schrieb Thomas Gstädtner: The pick-stylus is attached via a (included) short loop and available as spare part for about $3 (in the states). And here's the link: http://www.cowonglobal.com/product/product_D2_feature.php Imho this would be perfect for the

Re: ATI to provide specs (was: Re: SMedia 3362)

2007-09-10 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/10/07, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: guys, as I indicated before, we already have the best possible support from Smedia. Not only have we some promises or statements, but we actually have signed a contract with them, binding them to support us to the utmost level. As indicated

Re: ATI to provide specs (was: Re: SMedia 3362)

2007-09-10 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia poniedziałek, 10 września 2007, Shawn Rutledge napisał: On 9/10/07, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't understand before that it would end up being 100% open source. I thought you had to sign an NDA? But if the driver is to be completely open, and the documents are to be

Re: webkit do_compile failed

2007-09-10 Thread George Barta
Looks like we must also remove build/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib/libWebKitGdk.* Thank you for posting the fix, I've been stuck there for 2 days now :( On 9/10/07, Alessandro Iurlano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/9/07, Emre Turkay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, After

Neo Base/Advanced

2007-09-10 Thread wolfgang_a_h
Hello all, as I'm waiting impatiently for GTA02 to come out, I'm faced with the decision wether to get the Base or the Advanced version. My question is: What exactly are the things that can only be done with the help of the development board? The additional goodies (2nd battery etc) aside, do

Re: webkit do_compile failed

2007-09-10 Thread ian douglas
George Barta wrote: Looks like we must also remove build/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib/libWebKitGdk.* Thank you for posting the fix, I've been stuck there for 2 days now :( I got past this issue without removing the above-mentioned file(s). Once I got past the webkit, I hit a

Re: stylus alternative

2007-09-10 Thread Niels L. Ellegaard
Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so, i've been following the discussion on finger-based vs. stylus-based apps. and i thought it might be a good idea to come up with some ideas for something between the two: a short (20-30mm long) piece of kit, attached to the finger end Does it hurt a

Re: ATI to provide specs

2007-09-10 Thread Steve
Harald Welte wrote: On 9/6/07, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It may be worth talking with ATI again. Since this announcement, I [...] As indicated previously, this agreement includes a statement that OpenMoko will work on to-be-publicized documentation on the SMedia chip, which will be

Re: Making GPRS/pppd connection.

2007-09-10 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski
Hello. Henry, what OM major version do you have? 2007.1 or 2007.2? Maybe you know your build number? I did some upgrade from openmoko repository and there are some differences in connecting progress (more AT commands passes) but still I have [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x309ee493