Re: Why not use forum?

2008-06-14 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 13.06.2008 um 22:36 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: We really aren't going to redo this discussion again, are we? Last time we had these discussion[1] it ended up with some seting up a forum[2] on http://forums.makeopensource.com/ Go there and be happy with your forum if thats what you

Re: OT: Nokia expects open source developers to accept things like DRM, commercial IP rights, and SIM locks.

2008-06-14 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Saturday 14 June 2008 03:24:25 Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: A lot of people look for the worst in others, and i try to generally play the other side. Look in the snip i did above, and try to read what else the guy is saying: He doesn't like DRM in principle, but realise that the

Re: moko running everything as root

2008-06-14 Thread arne anka
will tell you that having those kind of permissions systems when the INTRUDER has physical access to the device is next to pointless. the om is connected via wlan or bluetooth -- thus allowing hacking into it (if it is not posiible right now it will some day). thus the user does not

handwriting recognition?

2008-06-14 Thread arne anka
i looked around a bit but i cannot find informations about the state of handwriting recognition or whether it exists at all. i liked palm's old graffiti very much (the new graffiti 2 is crap) and would like to be able to use a similar approach on my freerunner, too.

Re: OT: Nokia expects open source developers to accept things like DRM, commercial IP rights, and SIM locks.

2008-06-14 Thread Federico Lorenzi
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for SIM locks and subsidised business models, it seems like a valid trade off to me. Get a phone much cheaper than it would cost on its own but only use it on our network. As long as there are unlocked version of the

Problem in committing project files

2008-06-14 Thread saurabh gupta
Hello everyone This is saurabh gupta, developing for open moko in speech recognition facility. I am getting a problem in committing the files at https://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/speech. First I checked out the repository by command- svn checkout --username * saurabhgupta*

Re: Problem in committing project files

2008-06-14 Thread Federico Lorenzi
Hello, You have to add your ssh public key to your profile, then use ssh+svn for subversion HTH, Federico On 6/14/08, saurabh gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone This is saurabh gupta, developing for open moko in speech recognition facility. I am getting a problem in committing

Permission denied (publickey)

2008-06-14 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, I have re-generated and re-uploaded my ssh keys to projects.openmoko.org (Account Maintenance), and I have waited for atleast more than 24 hours. When I try to checkout code from the repo with my username, I still get the Permission denied (publickey). message. Any suggestions? SK --

Re: OT: Nokia expects open source developers to accept things like DRM, commercial IP rights, and SIM locks.

2008-06-14 Thread Martin Larsson
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 3:24 AM, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look in the snip i did above, and try to read what else the guy is saying: He doesn't like DRM in principle, but realise that the carriers like it enough that if Nokia's handsets did not support it, they

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-14 Thread Sander van Grieken
On Friday 13 June 2008 21:22:12 Ben Burdette wrote: What would be cool would be a QVGA-to-VGA transition effect where a 'blurry' QVGA app comes into focus as you transition to VGA mode. So suppose you are in an application selection screen, you select an application and it 'zooms' to the app

When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?

2008-06-14 Thread Rok Jaklič
Hi. I am sorry to be just one of the other 2 billion people who want to buy this phone, but since I have to buy new phone, time is a pretty hard limit for me. Since phone is already being produced in factory does anyone has some estimated date when ordinary people could buy this phone? Kind

Re: Problem in committing project files

2008-06-14 Thread saurabh gupta
Thank you Paul. I am trying this now. Hope this works:) On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Paul-Valentin Borza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Saurabh Gupta, I had the same problem when I wanted to commit my gsoc-work into SVN. But I figured it out. OpenMoko projects uses SSH Authorized Keys

Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?

2008-06-14 Thread Steven Kurylo
Since phone is already being produced in factory does anyone has some estimated date when ordinary people could buy this phone? No one has any idea. Personally I'm expecting mid July. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Permission denied (publickey)

2008-06-14 Thread Kim Alvefur
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 17:32 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote: I have re-generated and re-uploaded my ssh keys to projects.openmoko.org (Account Maintenance), and I have waited for atleast more than 24 hours. When I try to checkout code from the repo with my username, I still get the Permission

Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?

2008-06-14 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 14. Juni 2008 schrieb Rok Jaklič: Hi. I am sorry to be just one of the other 2 billion people who want to buy this phone, but since I have to buy new phone, time is a pretty hard limit for me. Since phone is already being produced in factory does anyone has some estimated date

RE: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 - product management, features assumptions

2008-06-14 Thread steve
Seconded. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Taylor Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:53 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 - product management,features assumptions Ken Young wrote:

RE: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?

2008-06-14 Thread steve
SMT is running. This means printed circuit boards are being produced daily. Then, the circuit boards are being assembled into phones. This means the plastic casing is being mounted As well as other bits and pieces. Then the phones are tested. Then they are packed and shipped. So figure,

RE: OEM market,any thoughts about that??

2008-06-14 Thread steve
A big percentage of requests I get are for this, however, they always want some hardware twist. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joerg Reisenweber Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 7:42 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: OEM market,any thoughts about that??

2008-06-14 Thread steve
Send me a proposal. This is what I do -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Samblas Martinez Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 4:40 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: OEM market,any thoughts about that?? Only babbling wating to the

Re: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?

2008-06-14 Thread ian douglas
Just out of curiosity, Steve, how long does it take to assemble a phone from start to finish? (just assembly, not testing) steve wrote: SMT is running. This means printed circuit boards are being produced daily. Then, the circuit boards are being assembled into phones. This means the plastic

RE: When it will be possible to buy OpenMoko?

2008-06-14 Thread steve
I'm not exactly sure. I havent asked if they have a continous process or if they build a bunch of PCB and then assemble. Like, build a thousand, assemble a thousand, etc. I know some shipments (university customers) have already landed. In terms of actual assembly time per unit, I'm marketing,

Re: No 3G for GTA03, 2G/EDGE only?

2008-06-14 Thread Greg Bonett
Federico Lorenzi wrote: Remember that every 3dBm is 2x power output, and 10nW(-50dBm) power output? Cheers, Federico Slight correction: Every 3dB is 2x power, 3dBm is about 2mw (not a relative power, but an absolute). -Greg ___ Openmoko

RE: Why not use votation system?

2008-06-14 Thread steve
The complexity of the decision is deeper than that. It involves cost, engineering budget, schedule, price, return on investment, parts availability. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Midgley Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:12

Re: OEM market,any thoughts about that??

2008-06-14 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 14. Juni 2008 schrieb steve: A big percentage of requests I get are for this, however, they always want some hardware twist. They don't exactly know our hw, I guess (e.g it's not commonly known we have a low-voltage-RS232, I2C, and separate power feed on internal debug-con /

Invisible Shield

2008-06-14 Thread Ajit Natarajan
Hi Steve, I recall a message posted a few days ago that Invisible Shield is willing to make a custom full body protector for FR if they can get a unit in house. Any update on whether a unit can be sent to them or if a unit has already been sent? Thanks. Ajit

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-14 Thread Robert Taylor
Nigel Cunningham wrote: That's too bad. I was going to buy GTA02, but decided not to because it lacks 3G. If GTA03 is going to lack it too, I guess I'd better look elsewhere for something / re-evaluate how long I want to wait before combining my organiser and phone into one. Nigel

Re: Invisible Shield

2008-06-14 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 15. Juni 2008 schrieb Ajit Natarajan: Hi Steve, I recall a message posted a few days ago that Invisible Shield is willing to make a custom full body protector for FR if they can get a unit in house. Any update on whether a unit can be sent to them or if a unit has already been

Re: Invisible Shield

2008-06-14 Thread Ajit Natarajan
Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Hey, Ajit. I already told you they shall apply directly by using their official office address, so we have some guarantee they intend to do some useful thing and will send back the device. Please don't nag. /jOERG I'm sorry, but I must have missed that post. I did

Re: GTA03: New case? Bigger screen!

2008-06-14 Thread Nigel Cunningham
Hi Robert. On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 18:41 -0700, Robert Taylor wrote: Nigel Cunningham wrote: That's too bad. I was going to buy GTA02, but decided not to because it lacks 3G. If GTA03 is going to lack it too, I guess I'd better look elsewhere for something / re-evaluate how long I want to