Kevin Zuber schrieb:
Hi,
I did some tests yesterday and here are my experiences with Freerunner's
GPS:
First I put the Freerunner on a window sill in a penthouse, no high-rise
around. I got a fix after ~20 minutes. Disappointing.
Later on I walked along in a big city between a lot of
Am 09.07.2008 um 06:34 schrieb Alexander Frøyseth:
And is it any other stores that sells ten packs?
Look here:
http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner
Nikolaus Schaller,
responsible for that...
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Hi,
we (until now 4 people) started at docs.google.com (where multiple people can
edit the same document) a german (until now quick dirty) getting started
document. This document is not meant to be a copy of
http://quickstart.openmoko.org/ and does not want to compete with the official
2008/7/9 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Am 09.07.2008 um 06:34 schrieb Alexander Frøyseth:
And is it any other stores that sells ten packs?
Look here:
http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner
Nikolaus Schaller,
responsible for that...
ASU works basically, but getting telephony work with it is a matter of luck.
Mostly it doesn't work at all, mostly the qtopia phoneserver eats 90% CPU..
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:05 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No ASU is a pre alpha set of applications.
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2008/7/9 Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2008/7/9 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Am 09.07.2008 um 06:34 schrieb Alexander Frøyseth:
And is it any other stores that sells ten packs?
Look here:
http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner
Nikolaus
How did you calculate that?
349 EUR - 10% for 10 pack = 314,10 EUR
less 19% VAT = 263,95 EUR
exchange rate 1,55 = 409,12 US$
Compare that to 399 US$.
Nikolaus
Am 09.07.2008 um 09:20 schrieb Alexander Frøyseth:
2008/7/9 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Am 09.07.2008 um 06:34
Hello everybody:
What I expect to learn 1.)how to write a application in the Neo and use
openmoko's installer to install it at openmoko,
if the application includes GPS, GMS function or someting about web2.0, that
will be fun.
Also, if I can 2.)learn some general idea about linux kernel or
Hi everyone:
Hello,my name is George. I am glad to see you guys in openmoko.
I want to learn more about how to use some API, such like blueZ ,GSM
modem, and so on . Well,actually I want to learn the FrameWork which
can corporate each component between kernel layer and
you meen 369 USD ?
Well it isent my call, but I the the group leader will agree with me on
this.
Will it be a preorder sale on the openmoko store?
2008/7/9 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
How did you calculate that?
349 EUR - 10% for 10 pack = 314,10 EUR
less 19% VAT = 263,95
Hello, My name is Willy , I take part in openmoko as a summer intern .
what I expect to learn is something about framework ,such as how to
combine complicated works to a service or how to form an API for people to use.
Also I want to know openmoko software architecture. What I
Hello! My name is Jack. I come from Tsing Hua University and I
study Computer Science third year. This summer I am glad that I can
join the openmoko team and become an openmoko intern. Because I
think the idea of open source and the infinite creativity is very cool！
Everyone can share the
On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 09:25 +0200, thomasg wrote:
ASU works basically, but getting telephony work with it is a matter of
luck.
Mostly it doesn't work at all, mostly the qtopia phoneserver eats 90%
CPU..
You may have one of the broken GSM modems. From my four phones two have
a broken GSM -
I would second the idea of keeping the community lists and device-owner list
separate. I follow the openmoko project as best I can but I cannot afford to
purchase the phone yet so I don't subscribe to the owner's list, although I
occasionally read the archives.
-Shawn
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:02
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Hi Jack
You have great ideas, especially about the social software. Please keep
telling us what you are thinking and learning.
Cheers
Dennis
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Hello! My name is Jack. I come from Tsing Hua University and I
study Computer
Hi Michael / all,
Sorry for my late response.
I think that innovation is the big and the first challenge that the
Openmoko and the community have.
After 35 years of property industry (the cellular industry) it is easy
to talk about innovation but it is not easy to be innovative - we all
You surely are right in some points, you might even be right with the
broken modem (still trying to figure that out), but I strongly disagree with
you in the most other points (off topic, but I'll reply anyway).
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You may have one
Dear Marcus,
your mail touches many subjects and let me just pick out a few:
First of all thanks for buying 4 phones from us! We are still an 'Open
Source project' more than a company and people need to believe in the
bigger picture to buy from us now.
Believe it or not - we all eat our own
Vinc,
I found a description of disassembling the 1973 that describes where the
GSM antenna connector is. They actually mention an alternative case that
provides access to it.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Disassembling_Neo1973
Here's the picture of the component side
Hey,
i added a small script and infos at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts
how to import vcf contacts to the default 2007.2 contacts application
Phil
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On Tuesday 08 July 2008, Charles Pax wrote:
Is there any way to commmunicate with the Freerunner through an internal
connection (USB or serial, not I2C)? This would be useful in creating a bar
code/RFID tag reader into the back cover. If not, is something like this
planned for a future
Am Mittwoch 09 Juli 2008 10:23:51 schrieb Marcus Bauer:
This is another hardware problem which is shared with the Neo 1973 and
thus known since a year. The answer by Dr. Michael Lauer was Guys, this
is a Heisenbug. We pray that it does not occur too often in the field..
That is a very
On Wednesday 09 July 2008, smurfy - phil wrote:
Hey,
i added a small script and infos at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts
how to import vcf contacts to the default 2007.2 contacts application
Phil
Does this work for files containing more than one contact, or just for
On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 16:38 +0200, thomasg wrote:
Like said before, they are (at least for me) all but working well (not
even to mention the UI design with 2-color icons without ever knowing
what they might mean).
Some of the icons are all but intuitive but this is a question of the
icons and
They are paying the Trolltech folks now, and they are also paying
EFL developers.
Yes, there is a cool application for connecting the N800 to your car
electronics and see into the engine management.
Which one is that?
(just googled up carman: http://openbossa.indt.org/carman/index.html,
The FSO-stack is what's needed to get that API and to get the
developers.
The FSO-stack is another case of reinventing the wheel. It sounds nice
on the paper but in reality this is a horror. There are PIM APIs like
eds and whatever in the KDE world or qtopia is used. It took years for
them
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
They are paying the Trolltech folks now, and they are also paying
EFL developers.
Yes, there is a cool application for connecting the N800 to your car
electronics and see into the engine management.
Which one is that?
(just googled up carman:
Hi there!
is it possible to get an better keyboard than this handy- keyboard at
the moment in the GTK-release? does anyone knows this? i think there is
somethink like an keyboard- canger, but i cant find any information
about that.
thanks, Arne
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On 9 Jul 2008, at 16:26, smurfy - phil wrote:
i added a small script and infos at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts
how to import vcf contacts to the default 2007.2 contacts application
Further to the recent questions about our mailinglists thread, ISTM
that this is more
Has anyone had their phone shipped within the US from the openmoko
store, and if so what was your order number? Just curious :)
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Hi!
Arne Zachlod wrote:
Hi there!
is it possible to get an better keyboard than this handy- keyboard at
the moment in the GTK-release? does anyone knows this? i think there is
somethink like an keyboard- canger, but i cant find any information
about that.
Actually, there is:
Steve sent a mail to the list last night that they had issue at
warehouse that held things up. They think they have worked them out and
should start shipping today. I have not received and shipment
information thus far...Order # 1356.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Matthew Lane wrote:
Has anyone had their phone shipped within the US from the openmoko
store, and if so what was your order number? Just curious :)
Could you please not use reply for starting a new thread?
Your mailer is smarter than you:
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello All,
I wanted to try out the Qtopia image provided by trolltech on my
Neo1973, but the only image I could find was for the freerunner here
http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/index.php
Can I use the same one? If not then can anyone point me to correct location.
Also, is this qtopia
Tilman Baumann skrev:
Matthew Lane wrote:
Has anyone had their phone shipped within the US from the openmoko
store, and if so what was your order number? Just curious :)
Could you please not use reply for starting a new thread?
Your mailer is smarter than you:
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL
Pranav Desai wrote:
Hello All,
I wanted to try out the Qtopia image provided by trolltech on my
Neo1973, but the only image I could find was for the freerunner here
http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/index.php
Can I use the same one? If not then can anyone point me to correct
I've got order #1210. I haven't received any shipping information
either. I'm not sure if we should expect an email when our order has
shipped or not.
-Steven
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:42 AM, McCreery, Lee CTR DISA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve sent a mail to the list last night that they
McCreery, Lee CTR DISA wrote:
Steve sent a mail to the list last night that they had issue at
warehouse that held things up. They think they have worked them out and
should start shipping today. I have not received and shipment
information thus far...Order # 1356.
The subject line of
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080709.wgtiphone0709/BNStory/Technology/home?cid=al_gam_mostemail
Customers who purchase an iPhone and sign up for a three-year
contract any time between July 11 â when the device goes on sale
â and the end
http://www.ginguppin.de/node/15
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080709.wgtiphone0709/BNStory/Technology/home?cid=al_gam_mostemail
Customers who purchase an iPhone and sign up for a three-year
contract any time
.20080709.wgtiphone0709/BNStory/Technology/home?cid=al_gam_mostemail
Customers who purchase an iPhone and sign up for a three-year
contract any time between July 11 – when the device goes on sale
– and the end of August will be eligible for a $30-per-month
data plan
Alexander Frøyseth wrote:
you meen 369 USD ?
Well, yes but he's including also 2 years of warranty and extra goodies.
Well it isent my call, but I the the group leader will agree with me on
this.
If you're in Europe, I think that buying from USA isn't so cheap since
there are high import
Charles Pax wrote:
Is there any way to commmunicate with the Freerunner through an internal
connection (USB or serial, not I2C)? This would be useful in creating a bar
code/RFID tag reader into the back cover. If not, is something like this
planned for a future version?
planned not afaik. too
Is it something different from what we already have on git.openmoko.org?
Since I've only heard rumors about it...
Anyway what are its key-points? QtWebKit support, Freerunner support,
then what else?
Any release date is planned for freerunner owners?
Thanks...
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On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 08:29:40PM +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
Alexander Frøyseth wrote:
you meen 369 USD ?
Well, yes but he's including also 2 years of warranty and extra goodies.
Well it isent my call, but I the the group leader will agree with me on
this.
If you're in
Alexander Fryseth wrote:
Tilman Baumann skrev:
Matthew Lane wrote:
Has anyone had their phone shipped within the US from the openmoko
store, and if so what was your order number? Just curious :)
Could you please not use reply for starting a new
Dave O'Connor wrote:
Bell and Telus just started charging for *incoming* texts.
The whole thread is just completely insane from an European point of
view... Your telcos really look greedy from here.
Sorry for you guys,
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I received an email notification from openmoko overnight. It included the UPS
tracking number. My order was shipped late yesterday and is in transit today.
Order number 1087.
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From: Ken Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:16 PM
To:
Pranav Desai wrote:
Hello All,
I wanted to try out the Qtopia image provided by trolltech on my
Neo1973, but the only image I could find was for the freerunner here
http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/index.php
Can I use the same one? If not then can anyone point me to correct
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
Is it something different from what we already have on git.openmoko.org?
Since I've only heard rumors about it...
Anyway what are its key-points? QtWebKit support, Freerunner support,
then what else?
Any release date is planned for freerunner owners?
Yes,
Brad Pitcher wrote:
Does Thunderbird have an add-on to display threads? I thought I had
used one in the past, but now I can't find it.
View - Sort by - Threaded/Unthreaded
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Lorn Potter wrote:
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
Any release date is planned for freerunner owners?
Yes, we do have a release coming soon, and there will be 1973 and
freerunner images available.
Can you quantize the soon word? Days? Weeks? Months? :P
Thanks!
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Yep, that's why I won't be giving them my money. I'm on a fido pay as you
go plan now. $10 a month, 30cent per minute calls. I don't use my
cellphone much but if they had decent plans I'd use it a lot more. This
$30 plan is interesting but that depends on if it requires me to sign up
for other
Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080708-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/200807/20080708/Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080708-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2
such a long filename and ASU isn't even mentioned in the name
Pick up service in Fremont California will work like this.
1. You have to order a 10 pack. We won't do pick up service for single
items.
2. You Enter your shipping address as the address of the Fremont facility.
3. You call the Shipping department and schedule a PRECISE pick up time.
4. You
John Reese wrote:
Brad Pitcher wrote:
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Oh yeah. That's beautiful. Thanks
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On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Joachim Steiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
we have added i2c, spi and a the debug serial not only on the debug
connector, but also on the golden testpads surrounding it on gta02, so
access via soldering or flatcable is easy and possible.
only VCC is not.
I visited fremont this morning and spoke to the wharehouse manager and
shipping director.
Emails will be going out with tracking numbers as the units ship.
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steve wrote:
Pick up service in Fremont California will work like this.
1. You have to order a 10 pack. We won't do pick up service for single
items.
2. You Enter your shipping address as the address of the Fremont facility.
3. You call the Shipping department and schedule a PRECISE
Hi all,
I have a slight problem with the landscape mode. It seems that the
touchscreen subtracts
some value from the x position where I touched the screen with the
stylus. The y value
seems to be fine. If I tap on the '+' on the bottom of the screen it
looks like I tapped
the 'home' icon. I
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pranav Desai wrote:
Hello All,
I wanted to try out the Qtopia image provided by trolltech on my
Neo1973, but the only image I could find was for the freerunner here
http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/index.php
Hi there!
Hi all,
I have a slight problem with the landscape mode. It seems that the
touchscreen subtracts
some value from the x position where I touched the screen with the
stylus. The y value
seems to be fine. If I tap on the '+' on the bottom of the screen it
looks like I tapped
Thanks for the update. This should ease the minds of a lot of us waiting for
shipment/tracking info.
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:15 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I visited fremont this morning and spoke to the wharehouse manager and
shipping director.
Emails will be going out with
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) skrev:
Alexander Frøyseth wrote:
you meen 369 USD ?
Well, yes but he's including also 2 years of warranty and extra goodies.
Well it isent my call, but I the the group leader will agree with me on
this.
If you're in Europe, I think that buying from
On 9 Jul 2008, at 20:28, Michael Kluge wrote:
...
I have a slight problem with the landscape mode. It seems that the
touchscreen subtracts some value from the x position where I
touched the screen with the stylus. The y value seems to be fine.
If I tap on the '+' on the bottom of the
Wow. Perfect then. You might have to find the alternative back but that
should be possible. My coworker says, burn a little hole in the back you
have with a hot soldering iron. He likes those straightforward hardware
mods. I'd be looking for a different back myself. :-)
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at
I built a FSO kernel the other night that fixes the problem with hanging up
in Milestone 1 FSO. Sorry, FreeRunner owners, I only built the Neo1973
version.
If you install this kernel with the Milestone 1 jffs2 on your Neo1973, you
should get the behavior described on
On Wednesday 09 July 2008, Al Johnson wrote:
On Wednesday 09 July 2008, smurfy - phil wrote:
Hey,
i added a small script and infos at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts
how to import vcf contacts to the default 2007.2 contacts application
Phil
Does this work
Hello,
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Konstantin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, there is:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Switching_Keyboards
FWIW, In the future, I wish (as a user of Openmoko devices (currently
1973 and FreeRunner)) to install any number of (available) keyboards
at the
I tried to respond earlier but ... (irony) ... it was with my old
Windows Mobile (HTC Wizard) and email is extremely unreliable.
I have order 1087 and received an email last night (Tuesday July 8)
around 9pm. It contained a simple message with the UPS tracking
number. Tracking it via UPS today
I have a few awesome ideas for the phone.
My first one is a basic guitar tuner using the mic.
My second one is some kind of phone home ability where if I misplaced
my phone, I can txt a secret phrase from a friends phone and have the
Freerunner automatically txt back the GPS coordinates. (could
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a few awesome ideas for the phone.
My first one is a basic guitar tuner using the mic.
See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Guitar_Tuning
and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List for the rest
Not that they aren't good
I'm having some trouble getting GPS to work on my Freerunner
Having installed gpsd and tangogps, I tried starting gpsd and got:
Starting gpsd: No /dev/ttyS3 GPS device, aborting gpsd startup. Check
/etc/default/gpsd
and tangogps couldn't find the gps receiver
I saw this irc log:
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