On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:54:34 -0700 Russell Sears [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
though we need to accept that we need to move beyond SDR into DDR/DDR2 ram
and higher clockrates anyway - we need more performance to do the things
people want, we just
Amd is working on their Fusion CPU/GPU. That would be perfect for mobile
devices ;)
Maybe gta04?
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:25:14 -0700 (PDT) abatrour [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Amd is working on their Fusion CPU/GPU. That would be perfect for mobile
devices ;)
Maybe gta04?
call us when they get to the 1 watt world. for now and for a while to come both
intel and amd's offerings are far
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:54:34 -0700 Russell Sears [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
though we need to accept that we need to move beyond SDR into DDR/DDR2 ram
and higher clockrates anyway - we need more
The package I'm using (and dependency packages) is now up at
http://hedora.ath.cx/moko/
Let me know if you hit any problems.
-Rusty
Russell Sears wrote:
There are a bunch of manual steps right now:
- openmoko-mediaplayer is hardcoded to use pulseaudio. Switching to
alsa is a one-line
yeah, numpty physics is very cool on Freerunner. I'm running it on
2007.2 and on landscape screen position it's cool: just perfect size
to fit the opened keyboard there.
Though I hope in next versions there would be some integrated keys to
restart and so on so that you wouldn't have to use the FR
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 19:08:39 schrieb Russell Sears:
Anyway, [music|gps] + gprs + phone seem to play nice in FSO. (I hacked
up a openmoko-mediaplayer package.
Cool.
Headphone insertion isn't detected
yet, but it does mute/stop the music when you
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:30:01 -0700 Russell Sears [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
aaah - i was not really thinking of high quality audio filters - i was really
thinking ok.. it's a phone - an embedded device. for entertainment and regular
daily use - we need really volume adjustment (to be able to
Very cool indeed!
I'm really expecting to see apps taking the most out of this.
Well done!
r
(though couldn't get anything read from accelerometers so far, tried
restart, too)
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 1:30 AM, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really great work!
But I don't think a service
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 20:50:54 schrieb carcinoma:
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 20:23:02 schrieb Ben Holt:
Paul-Valentin Borza wrote:
Have fun with it!
i'm sad,
because the hexdump for /dev/input/event2 has no output...
result is: no working gesture capturing. what can i do to
You must start to realize just how low power mobile devices must be, to
be actually useful. Geode, Atom, Fusion, everyone of these is a power
hog compared to ARM.
My vote goes for low clocked OMAP3530.
Best regards
Peter Kraker
abatrour pravi:
Amd is working on their Fusion CPU/GPU. That
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:56:11 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied:
according to google there seem to be a few messages with a similar problem
-- dbus.freedesktop.org mentions that dbus includes security policies but
nothing more.
2008/8/15 Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
what is with this? the top accelerometer does not work!
Also after restarting the neo.
can this be a hardware fault?
Same problem here. The earlier version of gestures worked for me once,
but didn't work later on. hexdumping event3 seems to show
Holger Freyther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hey,
as we need some more time to make the build result of org.openmoko.asu.dev
and
org.openmoko.asu.stable available I have an ad-hoc and temporary solution by
providing my build result. So this is from the official branch but my no
means an
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Lucas Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How can I translate this into opkg config files? I tried to change the
*.conf files in /etc/opkg but I can't seem to find a syntax that pleases
opkg. Since I'm the only one asking this, it must be obvious :)
Well, it isn't
Hi,
I guess this must be either too obvious, or hidden somewhere, or very
easy and I've been too stupid to find it yet (you choose...), but I
haven't been able to do WiFi with QTopia yet...
Where do I turn on WiFi and register my (WPA2) key?
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Hi,
I'd like to trigger at jobs every ~10 minutes (so that RTC resumes from suspend)
but somehow atd (Om 2008.8) behaves strange
any hints how to deal with atd and trigger jobs ?
thanks,
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Harald Koenig, 2008-08-15 12:04:44 +0200 :
Hi,
I'd like to trigger at jobs every ~10 minutes (so that RTC resumes
from suspend) but somehow atd (Om 2008.8) behaves strange
any hints how to deal with atd and trigger jobs ?
You may want ot look at cron instead of at. at is for one-time
I tried to sketch my idea of extensions for openmoko and the result is
placed in the wiki
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:Expansion_Back
I dont know how feasible it can be in terms of design and power
requirements. But thats what I
had in my mind and I think thats what open source is all
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Timo Jyrinki schrieb:
2008/8/15 Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
what is with this? the top accelerometer does not work!
Also after restarting the neo.
can this be a hardware fault?
Same problem here. The earlier version of gestures worked
On Thursday 14 August 2008 20:03:43 John Locke wrote:
I'd say, the minimum that we need for GTA01 would:
1. have working, reliable GSM service to use as a phone
This works with both Qtopia and the old GTK based OpenMoko distribution. It
also works with FSO.
2. have working, reliable
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:27:53 +0200, Lucas Bonnet wrote:
How can I translate this into opkg config files? I tried to change the
*.conf files in /etc/opkg but I can't seem to find a syntax that pleases
opkg. Since I'm the only one asking this, it must be obvious :)
Would anyone be kind
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Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Timo Jyrinki schrieb:
| 2008/8/15 Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | what is with
this? the top accelerometer does not work! | Also after
restarting the neo. | | can this be a
gpssight can do that:
opkg install
http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/227/gpssight_0.8.4_freerunner.armv4t.ipk
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On Aug 14, Russell Sears wrote:
GPS would be perfect for updating time, cause the time sent is more
exact then the times, you can get by any other way. What about ntpd, can
it handle gps-data?
http://time.qnan.org/
ntp has full gps/nmea support, even with PPS:
On Aug 15, Roland Mas wrote:
You may want ot look at cron instead of at. at is for one-time jobs,
cron is for recurring jobs.
will cron work while FR being suspended ?
haven't checked yet, but so far I've read this only from atd,
and atd exclusively opens /dev/rtc (see hwclock problems...)
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Freitag 15 August 2008 13:37:56 schrieb Andy Green:
what does
cat /proc/interrupts
say?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0
16: 12s3c-ext0 lis302dl
17: 1s3c-ext0
Hi Yaroslav,
Well, that might be an idea to use both accelerometers. Currently (in this
release), the daemons can use either of the accelerometers (top or bottom);
it just depends on the arguments that are used to start the daemons.
However, there are models only for the top accelerometer.
Try
There's a bug unfortunately with the landscape mode. I think half of it has
been corrected (on FSO).
Paul
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:07 PM, C R McClenaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Bravo - coolest app to date. I've installed on FSO MS2 with updates
for dependencies.
For me not only is the
Yes, I'll have to rethink the design a little bit to reduce power
consumption.
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
cool! Thanks!
1 quick question. wiki says: Remark: The Alpha 2
Don't know what to say here, sorry.
Paul
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 20:50:54 schrieb carcinoma:
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 20:23:02 schrieb Ben Holt:
Paul-Valentin Borza wrote:
Have fun with it!
i'm sad,
Try the 2008.8 release.
Paul
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Timo Jyrinki schrieb:
2008/8/15 Christian Anke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
what is with this? the top accelerometer does not work!
Also after
I'll probably do a better integration with the framework on the next
release.
Paul
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 12:30 AM, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really great work!
But I don't think a service depending on a running xserver should be an
init script (even if the script can require the X
Am Freitag 15 August 2008 09:02:42 schrieb Russell Sears:
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 19:08:39 schrieb Russell Sears:
Anyway, [music|gps] + gprs + phone seem to play nice in FSO. (I hacked
up a openmoko-mediaplayer package.
Cool.
Headphone insertion
On the sensitivity issue... The time that the recognizer considers a gesture
was made is unfortunately hard-coded with a #define in this release (sorry
for that). However, there's something you can do (you can train the
classifier to detect dynamic acceleration - i.e. when you make a gesture -
to
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 23:32 (-0700), Russell Sears wrote:
The package I'm using (and dependency packages) is now up at
http://hedora.ath.cx/moko/
Thanks!
Most dependencies I already had installed from the °angström-base-feed.
To install your mediaplayer-package I only had to change the
Hi!
I'm trying to build navit using the openmoko toolchain. The problem is
that it seems to require the libgps include files for gpsd support.
Ideally I'd like to add a package to the toolchain using a bitbake
recipe from the openmoko git repository. I have tried to find the
relevant
Hi!
For a robotics project, I'd like to interface my Freerunner with a
custom board using the serial interface exposed on the JTAG connector.
Could someone please point me to the specification of the required
cable? Has someone a link for purchasing such a cable? I don't want to
add the
Florian Hackenberger wrote:
Hi!
For a robotics project, I'd like to interface my Freerunner with a
custom board using the serial interface exposed on the JTAG connector.
Could someone please point me to the specification of the required
cable? Has someone a link for purchasing such a
Well, that might be an idea to use both accelerometers. Currently
(in
more is usually better than less ;-) I haven't yet looked at the machine
learning part of the recognition you do (I know that you described it in
your MS thesis I think), but doubling the number of features for
Florian Hackenberger wrote:
Hi!
I'm trying to build navit using the openmoko toolchain. The problem is
that it seems to require the libgps include files for gpsd support.
Ideally I'd like to add a package to the toolchain using a bitbake
recipe from the openmoko git repository. I have
Lovely. Thanks.
Can someone please test and wikify?
Thanks,
Michael
Russell Sears wrote:
The package I'm using (and dependency packages) is now up at
http://hedora.ath.cx/moko/
Let me know if you hit any problems.
-Rusty
Russell Sears wrote:
There are a bunch of manual steps right
On Friday 15 August 2008, Dale Maggee wrote:
You may want to have a look at this earlier thread about Navit:
I didn't manage to compile it in the end, but there are links to
compiled versions there which I ended up using.
Thanks, I'm using the compiled packages, but I'd like to fix a few bugs
Hey,
I received my OpenMoko freerunner this monday and I played around with
it the whole week and this is my experience with it.
I didn't like the software that came with it (I guess that is 2007.2),
I just didn't like the look and feel of it. So I installed ASU on it
and that felt better, but
Dear OpenMoko community,
the FSO packaging team of the Debian project[1] is happy to announce
that we have started to provide installation procedures and packages
required to have your FreeRunner[2] run Debian-powered.
This means that you can use your favorite tools such as apt-get and the
other
Well, I'd consider that...a hack, at best. What if the version of the
package does not match? What if I need to add a library which has not
yet been packaged? However, thanks for the tip!
if that hack works, it means the build system is looking for headers and
so on in system wide pathes.
question is: is which version should I install on the sd card? The
what you like best.
official 2008.8 release and try to update that or install the version
from the build host? Also updates don't seem to work (I have usb
networking and added a nameserver to resolve.conf).
w/o useful
2008/8/15 arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
question is: is which version should I install on the sd card? The
what you like best.
why?? oO THe sd is faster then the flash ?
official 2008.8 release and try to update that or install the version
from the build host? Also updates don't seem to
thanks godness, it's weekend!
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Thomas Bertani wrote:
2008/8/15 arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
question is: is which version should I install on the sd card? The
what you like best.
why?? oO THe sd is faster then the flash ?
i think arne anka means
which version install on the sd card is up to you :-)
official 2008.8
Christ van Willegen wrote:
I guess this must be either too obvious, or hidden somewhere, or very
easy and I've been too stupid to find it yet (you choose...), but I
haven't been able to do WiFi with QTopia yet...
Where do I turn on WiFi and register my (WPA2) key?
In Settings-Internet.
But
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| 16: 1821s3c-ext0 lis302dl
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Hum seems like they still want to stop making interrupts. Two guys they
only get 2 or 12 interrupts and then nothing, this
You're right, but with the expense of more computational power; and indeed
it's all about the features that the hmm, and classifier use :)
Paul
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko site-openmoko.org@
onerussian.com wrote:
Well, that might be an idea to use both
Hello,
- where are the tiles downloaded while using Locations saved ?
/tmp/diversity-maps ??
If they are, is there a way to save them somewhere different ? so I do not
have to download them all the time.
Or i can create a map package like :
As a heads up to everyone, this may not work with an SDHC card. u-boot (to the
best of my knowledge) doesn't support SDHC, even though the linux kernel does.
So when u-boot goes to read the FAT filesystem and load in the kernel, it fails.
One thing that might work (Although it may mess you up
Ah, this seems to have more information.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Boot_from_SDHC
It says 'u-boot from 2008-07-23 or later' will boot from SDHC.
On Friday 15 August 2008 13:41:19 Daniel Benoy wrote:
As a heads up to everyone, this may not work with an SDHC card. u-boot (to
2008/8/15 Harald Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Aug 15, Roland Mas wrote:
You may want ot look at cron instead of at. at is for one-time jobs,
cron is for recurring jobs.
will cron work while FR being suspended ?
haven't checked yet, but so far I've read this only from atd,
and atd
I did something really dumb and blew away my /etc/pulse/session file. Can
somebody post theirs for me if they still have it?
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Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Am Freitag 15 August 2008 09:02:42 schrieb Russell Sears:
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 19:08:39 schrieb Russell Sears:
Anyway, [music|gps] + gprs + phone seem to play nice in FSO. (I hacked
up a openmoko-mediaplayer package.
Cool.
Tobias Diedrich wrote:
Christ van Willegen wrote:
I guess this must be either too obvious, or hidden somewhere, or very
easy and I've been too stupid to find it yet (you choose...), but I
haven't been able to do WiFi with QTopia yet...
Where do I turn on WiFi and register my (WPA2) key?
#!/usr/bin/pulseaudio -nF
# Create autoload entries for the device drivers
add-autoload-sink output module-alsa-sink sink_name=output
add-autoload-source input module-alsa-source source_name=input
# Load several protocols
load-module module-esound-protocol-unix
load-module
thanks for the quick response
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Don't think this one has been posted on the list:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzkdfZAl9wk
(it's quite positive)
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Unfortunately, I've decided to sell my Freerunner on ebay.
I love the phone, but the firmware just isn't ready for general use, and I
lack the expertise to contribute toward the project.
Thanks to everyone who's helped me over these last few weeks.
Cheers.
Dimitri
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Florian Hackenberger wrote:
On Friday 15 August 2008, Dale Maggee wrote:
You may want to have a look at this earlier thread about Navit:
I didn't manage to compile it in the end, but there are links to
compiled versions there which I ended up using.
Thanks, I'm using the compiled
Maybe you should give the debian/fso version a try.
It sounds like it is quite stable. I will test it the next days because
the 2008.8 is to unstable and the 2007.2 is not really good when it
comes to use as a phone.
Ciao,
Rainer
Dimitri wrote:
Unfortunately, I've decided to sell my
The installation works without any problems, but i get the following error
when I try to use the skript (http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner) for
adjusting the uboot environment:
Dumping current uboot environment
dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has
On Thursday 14 August 2008 4:51:42 pm Marc Verwerft wrote:
Lorn,
Will the GPS app also work on the GTA01 (using the hammerhead chip)?
The mapping demo application uses either gpsd or raw nmea output, so yes, it
will work with gta01.
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On Thursday 14 August 2008 5:49:58 pm Cédric Berger wrote:
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 22:01, Paul Buede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I cannot find libgsmd-tool on qtopia, is it there somewhere, or by a
different name? Then I could give you some real numbers...
gsmd is not installed for qtopia.
I
part of fso-utils package
thus
apt-get install fso-utils
if you have all needed repositories added to your sources.list
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008, Michael Tansella wrote:
The installation works without any problems, but i get the following error
when I try to use the skript
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 21:45, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 14 August 2008 5:49:58 pm Cédric Berger wrote:
Now I have to reboot in 2007.2, use libgsmd-tool to register my
provider, and reboot back to qtopia !
why do you need to do this?
What AT commands are you needing to
Hi,
Am Freitag, den 15.08.2008, 21:34 +0200 schrieb Michael Tansella:
The installation works without any problems, but i get the following error
when I try to use the skript (http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner) for
adjusting the uboot environment:
Dumping current uboot environment
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 20:22, Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway bottom line is does work.
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Well I manage to have it say connected, but have no network
access... will keep trying
I also have to try other settings of my modem wifi (TKIP, AES, or TKIP+AES
On Friday 15 August 2008 22:02:09 Joachim Breitner wrote:
Sorry, that should be added to the wiki (wanna do that? :-)
It’s in the fso-utils packages that is provided by the pkg-fso feed
mentioned on the wiki page (or the ./envedit.pl script in the
devirginator sources, if that’s easier to find
The feeds are for the debian system if I understand you right.
But how do I install these packages without beeing able to boot debian
from
the sd card ? Should I install that in the openmoko flash image
(currently
2008.08)?
the tools are to be used on your host computer, i think.
Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 15:48:50 schrieb Timo Jyrinki:
2008/8/7 Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm desperately looking for a (cheap?) 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor to use my
normal headset with the neo. Does anyone preferably from Europe already
have such a thing and can confirm it works properly
Hi,
Am Freitag, den 15.08.2008, 22:31 +0200 schrieb arne anka:
The feeds are for the debian system if I understand you right.
But how do I install these packages without beeing able to boot debian
from
the sd card ? Should I install that in the openmoko flash image
(currently
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:31:11 +0200
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The feeds are for the debian system if I understand you right.
But how do I install these packages without beeing able to boot
debian from
the sd card ? Should I install that in the openmoko flash image
(currently
Florian Hackenberger wrote:
On Tuesday 05 August 2008, Stroller wrote:
Me, too. An exactly similar experience so far. But I think I will
give them a few more days.
I can recommend giving them a call. It takes a while until they pick up
the phone, but they are very kind. They immediately
On Friday 15 August 2008 22:31:11 arne anka wrote:
the tools are to be used on your host computer, i think.
Thanx that was it.
But at the end I wasn't successful anyway.
Now when I reboot I see first the Openmoko splash then a white screen then a
short vibration and the Openmoko splash again
The feeds are for the debian system if I understand you right.
But how do I install these packages without beeing able to boot
debian from
the sd card ? Should I install that in the openmoko flash image
(currently
2008.08)?
the tools are to be used on your host computer, i think.
Hi,
Am Freitag, den 15.08.2008, 22:53 +0200 schrieb Michael Tansella:
On Friday 15 August 2008 22:31:11 arne anka wrote:
the tools are to be used on your host computer, i think.
Thanx that was it.
But at the end I wasn't successful anyway.
Now when I reboot I see first the Openmoko
what amount of space is required?
due to problems with my 4 gig card (i/o errors because of a bug in
openmoko) i use a 512mb card that shipped w/ the fr and right now in
debian stage tha card is at it's limit: about 430mb, ~10 left.
i will remove the content of /var/cache/apt/archives and
That looks good. Please start NAND uboot and select Boot, then you
should be able to read an error message that might help us here,
although you have to read fast.
OK it's a little bit too fast I'll try to record it with my webcam...
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Am Freitag, den 15.08.2008, 23:18 +0200 schrieb arne anka:
what amount of space is required?
due to problems with my 4 gig card (i/o errors because of a bug in
openmoko) i use a 512mb card that shipped w/ the fr and right now in
debian stage tha card is at it's limit: about 430mb, ~10
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:58:10 +0200
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The feeds are for the debian system if I understand you right.
But how do I install these packages without beeing able to boot
debian from
the sd card ? Should I install that in the openmoko flash image
Feydreva wrote:
Or i can create a map package like :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Locations#Create_Offline_Maps
and save them my_map1.eek
but if I download news tiles, I have to think about creating a
my_maps2.eek, before I reboot the FR again...
the instructions on the wiki look
Hi,
Am Freitag, den 15.08.2008, 23:52 +0200 schrieb Dariusz Łuksza:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:58:10 +0200
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
E: System is not claiming to be an armv4tl. Are you sure that this
is your Openmoko FreeRunner (GTA02)?
well, you're apparently speaking of
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Fights, flamewars and other disputes are part of a live community, so
Not the good part.
Collaboration, cooperation, and positive attitudes are the only thing that
really count.
Most of what I read on our community
Please use this page.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard
This page is new
Olivier Berger ??:
Dimitri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm with you, Dirk. This qtopia keyboard just doesn't function right. And
switching .kbd files does nothing.
Flicking only toggles the different
I was able to install it, not a big deal (though you have to read the
wiki page carefully).
Thank you for this, I'm sure more will follow - for some reason I
trust now on debian and 2007.2.
r
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Am Samstag, den 16.08.2008, 05:12 +0300 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa:
I was able to install it, not a big deal (though you have to read the
wiki page carefully).
thanks for trying it. If you think you can make the wiki pager clearer
in some way, feel free to just fix it.
Greetings,
Joachim
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Julian Chu wrote:
I am the leader of building stuff.
We did a release in 2008.8 then provide a stable feed.
Buidhost is a building machine that build many things with
AUTOREV. That means everything comes from buildhost is *Unstable*
We provide buildhost for the reason
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