Re: debian on neo1973: ogpsd failing?

2008-11-17 Thread Brad Midgley
ok, found it copied /usr/share/doc/fso-frameworkd/examples/frameworkd.conf to /etc and then modified the ogpsd section: [ogpsd] device = NMEADevice channel = FileChannel path = /tmp/nmeaNP log_level = INFO the debian neo1973 page can't be modified, but this would be very useful info on it.

Community update

2008-11-17 Thread Minh Ha Duong
Hello everybody, and welcome to the Openmoko Community Newsletter, for the November 3th to November 16th timespan. During these two weeks, we had FSO milestone IV and a testing SHR image released. Openmoko pulled the download server offline due to an mp3 copyright issue, they are rebuilding

Results of WSOD (unofficial) survey question

2008-11-17 Thread Greg
Hi, As promised, here are the results after a week. I received only 11 results so they are hardly meaningful. Here is the break down anyway: 2 - Dropped with no effect on functionality 5 - WSOD Out of the Box (i.e. never dropped) 1 - Dropped with no effect for a while, then regular WSODs 3 -

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:54:55 +0800 John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:05:16AM +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: x's internals are definitely up for improvement - callium3d is there to try and fix this by providing a better more organised and better accelerated

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:40:19 -0500 Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Well then, Therein lies the question, how long is OM going to be using the Glamo? There's apparently some real potential in the device, but that's really measured as much by the chip's relevance as its

Re: [Om2008.9] How to power off Wifi?

2008-11-17 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Sunday, November 16, 2008 a las 01:49:57AM +0100, Minh Ha Duong escribió: Le samedi 15 novembre 2008, Matthias Apitz a écrit : I don't know if it reduces the drawing of power (btw: what is the easiest method to measure it? pulling out the battery and measure the power consumption via

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/11/14 Gothnet [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It really needs work on the basics. I mean, responsiveness is not there, interface is dodgy (the end call button being in the same spot as the accept call button, and being unresponsive, made me hang up s many calls). Echo on calls, battery life...

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/11/17 Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: $400 for a phone is a reasonable investment. But months of work in one's spare time is much bigger. Before anyone commits to a large-scale project, I think it's fair to ask OM what their plans are with this chip. Hey people, please don't

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread kimaidou
About the buzzin issue, I would like to be sure : is it or is it not hardware related ? I heard about a soldering fix of one electronic component which could get rid of the interferences... Has anyone more information ? Kimaidou 2008/11/17 Timo Jyrinki [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/11/14 Gothnet

Re: (Debian) IceWm running!

2008-11-17 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Davide Scaini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: using xrandr i have a strange behaviour... after restoring previous orientation I have very big fonts... why? and how to fix that? It's a known bug. http://bugs.debian.org/xserver-xglamo ___ Openmoko

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Charles Pax
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Timo Jyrinki [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Coding is fun! That's why we have accelerometer-controlled Doom working fluently before phone calls, and I think it's great ;) I'm just starting my day here on the East coast of the U.S.. I'm confident what you just wrote

Re: [Om2008.9] How to power off Wifi?

2008-11-17 Thread Carl Lobo
I guess that's right. I have similar readings myself. On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El día Sunday, November 16, 2008 a las 01:49:57AM +0100, Minh Ha Duong escribió: Le samedi 15 novembre 2008, Matthias Apitz a écrit : I don't know if it reduces the

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | FWIW I talked this over with an experienced 3D guy recently about | something related and he was all in favour of discarding the kdrive

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Minh Ha Duong
Le lundi 17 novembre 2008, kimaidou a écrit : About the buzzin issue, I would like to be sure : is it or is it not hardware related ? I heard about a soldering fix of one electronic component which could get rid of the interferences... Has anyone more information ? It is hardware related and

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Nicola Mfb
2008/11/17 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] this is the thing.. the drvier is ALREADY doing this. i repeat this ad-nauseum. the acceleration is the same u get in the nv driver or you saw a few years back in the i8xx drivers etc. you get blit and fill accelerated (the

How to use links-x11?

2008-11-17 Thread Leonti Bielski
Hello! I'm using shr image, and I've installed links-x11 from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/ But when I try to run it with links I get Illegal instruction all the time. Do I need to install something else? Leonti

Re: [Om2008.9] How to power off Wifi?

2008-11-17 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Matthias Apitz wrote: for now I've tested it with your battery.py, here are the numbers: 181 mA -- nearly empty FR (only battery.py and Terminal running) 231 mA -- after launch of GPSD 183 mA -- after stop of GPSD 189-232 mA -- after Wifi-up with, running 'ping' through eth0

Will there be a hardware revision for the buzzing issue?

2008-11-17 Thread robert lazarski
Hi all, I'm about to buy an openmoko, as I finally have some time and cash. However, my understanding is that the latest phones for sale have a buzzing issue and its confirmed to be hardware related. Will there be a hardware revision? Or I'm a stuck using a soldering iron and new parts to fix it?

Re: [Om2008.9] How to power off Wifi?

2008-11-17 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, November 17, 2008 a las 03:19:32PM +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) escribió: Matthias Apitz wrote: for now I've tested it with your battery.py, here are the numbers: 181 mA -- nearly empty FR (only battery.py and Terminal running) 231 mA -- after launch of GPSD

Re: [FDOM] Ye olde no sound after resume

2008-11-17 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I installed FDOM 20081023 but there is no sound. | | Any idea? If you are booting from Qi, you need a version from yesterday or later to get audio working. http://people.openmoko.org/andy has binaries for

Re: GPRS Issues - Related to infamous 'buzz'?

2008-11-17 Thread Margo Koppelmann
I just had the same problem. I configured GPRS connection on QT Extended 4.4.2. And tried the connection - it worked without any problems. Then I disconnected from GPRS and about 10 minutes after that someone called me. When I answered the call a very loud sound started to play.

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:30:31 +0100 Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi Raster! before reading this post I supposed that 2d acceleration was very partially implemented. This cames out for example because I never see a smooth scroll on the device. So what is the reason for this? glamo? 2d

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Iain B. Findleton
So far, on the FR, I remain to be convinced that the use of X is the critical performance issue. In any event, the main issue with optimization efforts is whether they can proceed faster than the introduction of better hardware. If a 400 Mhz machine is too slow, will a 1 Ghz machine be fast

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:46 AM, kimaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok thanks, I have just read the hundreds if topics on it... the problem is I am no electronicien so I did not understand if a workaround has been found : I read about soldering, sticky tape. If there is a workaround, is

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread kimaidou
It does require special skills and tools. If the posts in the hardware list were not enough for you to see the fix then you shouldn't attempt it. Angus Hum Sorry to ask again, but.. A solution has been found ? Or this solderings and pin things are for tests purposes only ? If the

[Qt extended] Default input method

2008-11-17 Thread Dareus
Does someone know if there's a way to set the default input method? I really can't use handwriting and I really like the predictive keyboard, is it necessary to select my favourite input method everytime qtextended starts? -- View this message in context:

What theme is this?

2008-11-17 Thread Leonti Bielski
Hi! I found this image on scap.linuxtogo.org http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/cb247f8d70308d5fec6a479c329e75f3.png There are also some other themes. Where I can download it? Who is making it? Thanks. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Host resolving errors during opkg install

2008-11-17 Thread Peter Neubauer
HI there, trying to download packages during opkg install curently fails on my newly installed FR. opkg update works fine, but then, I get [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg install classpath Installing classpath (0.97.2-r4) to root... Downloading

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Iain B. Findleton
I have implemented an image display script on the FR that demonstrates smooth scroll in the form of dragging the image about the screen. Works for fairly large images (colour weather maps of North America). The application uses the FLTK tool kit with double buffering through X. Nicola Mfb

Toolchain opkg postinst Error

2008-11-17 Thread Michael Tansella
Hi, my qt4 Libs are not installed correctly in toolchain since the update of the angström Repository, when I try to reinstall them I get the following error [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/openmoko/arm/bin# opkg-target -force-reinstall install libqtcore4 Reinstalling libqtcore4 (4.4.3-r1.1) on

Re: What theme is this?

2008-11-17 Thread Tilman Baumann
Leonti Bielski wrote: Hi! I found this image on scap.linuxtogo.org http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/cb247f8d70308d5fec6a479c329e75f3.png There are also some other themes. Where I can download it? Who is making it? Thanks. Leonti I agree it looks nice. And as we are on this topic. I think

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Aliner
If we work on having x.org server working on the FR, wouldn't that help for whatever comes next?. At least we would have some working knowledge on how to develop drivers for X, and a team of programmers with ample knowledge on all things regarding the x.org Server. I mean, the thing is

fennec -force-depends doesn't help

2008-11-17 Thread Leonti Bielski
Hi! I'm trying to install fennec on my beloved Neo. I have added angstrom-distribution.org feed and try to do opkg install fennec It give me gtk eror similar to this one http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/device-owners/2007-November/000759.html So I tried 'opkg install fennec -force-depends' but

Re: Host resolving errors during opkg install

2008-11-17 Thread Stanislav Sedov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:45:45 +0100 Peter Neubauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mentioned: HI there, trying to download packages during opkg install curently fails on my newly installed FR. opkg update works fine, but then, I get [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Graeme Gregory
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 11:58 -0500, Aliner wrote: If we work on having x.org server working on the FR, wouldn't that help for whatever comes next?. At least we would have some working knowledge on how to develop drivers for X, and a team of programmers with ample knowledge on all things

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Aliner
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Graeme Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 11:58 -0500, Aliner wrote: If we work on having x.org server working on the FR, wouldn't that help for whatever comes next?. At least we would have some working knowledge on how to develop

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Graeme Gregory
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 12:12 -0500, Aliner wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Graeme Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 11:58 -0500, Aliner wrote: If we work on having x.org server working on the FR, wouldn't that help for whatever

Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Jacob Peterson
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Aliner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Graeme Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 11:58 -0500, Aliner wrote: If we work on having x.org server working on the FR, wouldn't that help for whatever comes next?. At

[2008.x] Settings app not working

2008-11-17 Thread Ivar Mossin
November 1st I upgraded from 2008.9 stable to 2008.x testing, using opkg update opkg upgrade. This broke the settings applications which no longer starts. I have just now updated and upgraded again to see if there would be a fix in the repository without any luck. I have also searched google and

Re: fennec -force-depends doesn't help

2008-11-17 Thread Andrew Chu
Hi Leonti, To get this to work, you will need to do a: opkg install gtk+ -force-overwrite Depending on the distro that you are using, you may experience some glitching in graphics after the install. I have installed fennec before and it is unbearably slow but there may have been updates

Re: Will there be a hardware revision for the buzzing issue?

2008-11-17 Thread Leonti Bielski
Hello! Yes, this is hardware issue, and it's fixable. Right now openmoko folks are testing the solution which fixes this issue. As far as I understood it will make it to new hardware revision, but it's going to take a while - they have to test it first to be sure it's not causing new problems. But

Re: Buzzing (was :The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-17 Thread Gothnet
Iain B. Findleton wrote: the main issue with optimization efforts is whether they can proceed faster than the introduction of better hardware. If a 400 Mhz machine is too slow, will a 1 Ghz machine be fast enough? Will anything be fast enough? Apparently, from the history of desktops,

Re: [Qt extended] Default input method

2008-11-17 Thread Lorn Potter
Dareus wrote: Does someone know if there's a way to set the default input method? I really can't use handwriting and I really like the predictive keyboard, is it necessary to select my favourite input method everytime qtextended starts? theoretically, it already has a default keyboard,

Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-17 Thread Tig
Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope the software stack becomes less of a joke in time for GTA03 or it'll be hard to get much new customers... Actually I have never read any jokes about the software stack. But it is a sign of good mental health when a community is able to

Re: What theme is this?

2008-11-17 Thread Joop Boonen
Tilman Baumann wrote: Leonti Bielski wrote: Hi! I found this image on scap.linuxtogo.org http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/cb247f8d70308d5fec6a479c329e75f3.png There are also some other themes. Where I can download it? Who is making it? Thanks. Leonti I agree it looks nice. And

Re: What theme is this?

2008-11-17 Thread Richy
I think hire did create the colorful theme. You should be able to catch him in #openmoko-cdevel Richard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: debian on neo1973: ogpsd failing?

2008-11-17 Thread Brad Midgley
Daniel I tried this, but now I get no fix. gpspipe -r prints out a dump with no coordinates. The fso(?) gps gui shows no coordinates and tangogps doesn't have coordinates. gllin is not started automatically, but if I do start it manually with /etc/init.d/gllin start, it runs but nothing changes.

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-17 Thread abatrour
A new rootfs has been released. http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Android-open-sourced-tp1359949p1511876.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Sean Moss-Pultz @ BALUG Tomorrow

2008-11-17 Thread Andrew Fife
Hi Folks: Just a quick note to let the OpenMoko community know that Sean Moss-Pultz will be speaking at BALUG tomorrow night in San Francisco. We're expecting a great crowd, so if you'd like to join us please RSVP: RSVP at balug.org **Why RSVP??** Well, don't worry we won't turn

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-17 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
anyone knows where is the changelog for this new image? i couldn't find it anywhere. abatrour escribió: A new rootfs has been released. http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-17 Thread Rui Castro
Hi, I flashed this new image and it doesn't boot anymore. Tried with the same SD card as before, deleted the old files from the ext3 partition, and nothing. All I see is a black screen. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Tomas Riveros Schober [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: anyone knows where is the

Re: fennec -force-depends doesn't help

2008-11-17 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Leonti Bielski wrote: Hi! I'm trying to install fennec on my beloved Neo. I have added angstrom-distribution.org feed and try to do opkg install fennec It give me gtk eror similar to this one http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/device-owners/2007-November/000759.html Download the ipk file,

Re: [2008.x] Settings app not working

2008-11-17 Thread Marek Lindner
On Tuesday 18 November 2008 01:40:42 Ivar Mossin wrote: November 1st I upgraded from 2008.9 stable to 2008.x testing, using opkg update opkg upgrade. This broke the settings applications which no longer starts. I have just now updated and upgraded again to see if there would be a fix in the

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-17 Thread Petr Vanek
I flashed this new image and it doesn't boot anymore. Tried with the same SD card as before, deleted the old files from the ext3 partition, and nothing. All I see is a black screen. the same for me. the partition get's mounted and some data written on it but the screen stays black... i get ping

Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-17 Thread Petr Vanek
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:35:27 +0100 Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PV) wrote: I flashed this new image and it doesn't boot anymore. Tried with the same SD card as before, deleted the old files from the ext3 partition, and nothing. All I see is a black screen. the same for me. the partition get's

MP2/MP3-free image based on Om2008.9

2008-11-17 Thread Ray Chao
Dear Community; We are glad to announce that we have a mp3-free image based on Om2008.9 in place. The link to this image is http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/ . Again, any thoughts and feedbacks are welcome and appreciated. Thank you all and Best Regards. Ray Chao Openmoko