Re: Questions and Answers

2009-01-04 Thread Minh Ha Duong
Le dimanche 04 janvier 2009, Sean Moss-Pultz a écrit : Now we're again struggling with closed firmwares (both the Calypso and the Atheros module). I would love to just make our own WiFi chip, but Openmoko doesn't have the volume to return our investment in such a technology endeavor. Hello

Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)

2009-01-04 Thread lollisoft
I think that the problem of the error message is not killing mplayer, but the outer script gets reported to stop unexpectly. Propably there should be implemented a signal handler. Lothar Chris Samuel wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:17:56 am Daniel Nöthen wrote: What you probably mean is the

Offer to write some neat programs for the Freerunner

2009-01-04 Thread Sargun Dhillon
So, I want to start my Freerunner development back up. I was thinking of a few different Apps to write, please give your comments (Tell me what you want): A) Assassin game A game where you can 'kill' other Openmokos, it would like Via Bluetooth/Wifi. This would mostly be a gimmick based off of

Re: Offer to write some neat programs for the Freerunner

2009-01-04 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut
Hello Sargun. Yes I have a few programs I would like to pay for a little (as I did for windows) 1) a keyboard, yes yet an otherone, like Touchpal. See http://www.CooTek.com. TouchPal is an innovative soft keyboard on Windows Mobile platform, powered by T+ input technology. Why TouchPal? It's

Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)

2009-01-04 Thread kimaidou
Hi Guys I am using a shell script on Ubuntu which uses mplayer to play internet (streaming) radio stations. I attached the script in this email. I haven't yet tried it on the freerunner, but I should probably work. It has been written by french people, so the radio are french ones, but it can be

Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow

2009-01-04 Thread Petr Vanek
Now i see what you meant in navit (1885). Only in the gui internal the setting 3D exist, not in the gui gtk. Now when i click on 3D and change back to the map it is showm in 3D mode. yes, i use gui internal But the problem is that the map is vry slow in 3D mode. I tried it on my pc

Re: [2008.12] Help with Om.2008.12 on microsd

2009-01-04 Thread Evgeny Karyakin
Don't know if this is expected behaviour, but when I moved rw part before all other kernel parameters: r...@om-gta02:~# cat /boot/append-GTA02 rw console=tty0 loglevel=8 rootdelay=1 now Neo boots fine with Qi and finally shows Illume desktop and everything. 2009/1/4 Evgeny Karyakin

Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow

2009-01-04 Thread dscaini
may someone who has a navit package build for Debian/arm working post here his package for a test? it might be statistically relevant... thanks d On 1/4/09, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: Now i see what you meant in navit (1885). Only in the gui internal the setting 3D exist, not in the gui

Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?

2009-01-04 Thread arne anka
i have to confess that, despite of reading your postings, i still fail to understand what exactly you are doing -- and moreover, i got the distinct impression, that a lot of your questions is caused by not doing rtfm (archives, wiki, ...) With the image from today in testing I get a fix

[Navit] Installation fails on fso image from today (2009-04-01)

2009-01-04 Thread lollisoft
Hi, I have installed the current testing image of FSO from today and getting the following error: echo src navit http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn /etc/opkg/navit-feed.conf opkg update opkg install navit Installing navit (svn-1885) to root... Downloading

Re: Questions and Answers

2009-01-04 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 1/4/09 Minh Ha Duong wrote: Le dimanche 04 janvier 2009, Sean Moss-Pultz a écrit : Now we're again struggling with closed firmwares (both the Calypso and the Atheros module). I would love to just make our own WiFi chip, but Openmoko doesn't have the volume to return our

Re: Car Charger?

2009-01-04 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net writes: Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? USB Car Adapter from http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.688 is only $2.58 and works for me.

Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)

2009-01-04 Thread Peter Nijs
I've seen one in the angstom-distribution's repo. depeje On Sunday 04 January 2009 15:30:13 lollisoft wrote: Hi, I am sad. The new version in testing from today does not contain an installable mplayer. Where must I go to download one for my FR ? Thanks Lothar kimaidou wrote: Hi Guys

Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?

2009-01-04 Thread lollisoft
With the image from today in testing I get a fix and it seems to work. But with tangogps I then indeed get the message 'no gps found'. I have looked if gpsd is running but none of gpsd or fso-gpsd is running. Starting it with 'gpsd /dev/ttySAC1' works for me. Now I'll try navit while getting a

Re: [2008.testing] GPS after resume

2009-01-04 Thread Yorick Moko
nice! but would it not be possible to let the gps poweroff and artificially feed it the last known sattelite positions? so that i can get a hot-start after suspend, without using more power? anyway, thanks for your contribution! y On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Vladimir Koutny

Re: A simple wifi solution for FSO ...

2009-01-04 Thread lollisoft
Hi, I haven't the wpa-conf executable on my FSO 4.1. Also I have grepped for it with opkg list | grep wpa. Where did I get this script / application ? With this and with more than one configuration in wpa_supplicant.conf, do I get a uninteruptable wlan, if both wlans are in the same house

Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)

2009-01-04 Thread lollisoft
This is not required. It seems that the feeds are set up a little bit later. Now I am listening again :-) Lothar Peter Nijs wrote: I've seen one in the angstom-distribution's repo. depeje On Sunday 04 January 2009 15:30:13 lollisoft wrote: Hi, I am sad. The new version in testing

Re: [2008.12] Help with Om.2008.12 on microsd

2009-01-04 Thread Evgeny Karyakin
2008/12/30 Andy Green a...@openmoko.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Em Sab, Dezembro 27, 2008 04:06, Kosa escreveu: | I've been trying to boot 2008.12 from a microsd but it just can't. | It starts booting but then it stops with

Re: Car Charger?

2009-01-04 Thread Benedikt Bär
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 03:06 -0800, lollisoft wrote: Just an idea, I haven't seen quickly which car charger or other charger works without more than yust pluging it into the USB slot. A table stating this would be quite good :-) Using the 12V/220V converter is another option - even a

Re: [2008.testing] GPS after resume

2009-01-04 Thread Vladimir Koutny
i was thinking about this the other day. the gps has it's own processor, correct, and can act independently of the cpu? i'm wondering if it's possible for the gps to keep it's fix while the main cpu is in suspend. power usage will be higher than a full suspend, but the phone will have a fix

Re: Car Charger?

2009-01-04 Thread Olivier Berger
Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net writes: Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? Hi. I suppose that you might find interesting hints (or improve it when you've found what you need) in :

Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?

2009-01-04 Thread Fox Mulder
If the versions are compareable than it seems that your fso-frameworkd is newer (0.8.4.40.8.4.3) and fso-gpsd is older (0.70.8). The only thing i know is that i had much problems with older fso-gpsd versions and now it works without problems. Maybe this is a point where you could investigate.

[2008.12] Best media player?

2009-01-04 Thread rakshat hooja
i have 2008.12 working great on my FR as a phone. But the image did not come with a preinstalled media player. SO I was wondering what would be the best media (just music) player option that can be installed on om 2008.12. I was quite happy with the QT Extended media played so can that be

GPS looses fix too early (inhouse)

2009-01-04 Thread lollisoft
Hi, I have had Om2008/9 before FSO and with that I had also not my new SDHC card (16GB). With that differences in mind: What could I do to check why the GPS seems to be less stable than before ? Get the clock speed for both cards to compare, if they are different ? When different, reducing

Re: Navit desktop symbol not visible in FSO ?

2009-01-04 Thread Jakob
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 2:16 PM, lollisoft lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de wrote: Hi, the current navit release seems to have a new desktop symbol, but it didn't show up on FSO (Installed 'more Homework'). The files are here /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/navit.png and

Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow

2009-01-04 Thread Fox Mulder
Petr Vanek wrote: On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 23:47:59 +0100 Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net (FM) wrote: Petr Vanek wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:38:51 +0100 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de (AA) wrote: i use navit on regularly routes over 120km with no performance problems on SHR (voice enabled).

Re: Car Charger?

2009-01-04 Thread lollisoft
Just an idea, I haven't seen quickly which car charger or other charger works without more than yust pluging it into the USB slot. A table stating this would be quite good :-) Using the 12V/220V converter is another option - even a more universal one :-) Another question: Does someone have

Re: (OM2008.12) Blackness

2009-01-04 Thread lollisoft
Did you have waited a while ? Choosen also the right uImage ? Lothar Paul-8 wrote: Hi all, I know, I am going through distro's like crazy, but that's how I am. I flashed OM2008.12 but I can't keep it going. It boots, and after something like only 30 seconds it already blanks the

Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?

2009-01-04 Thread lollisoft
That's what I see when list installed: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep gps fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - tangogps - 0.9.3-r3.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep framework frameworkd -

Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?

2009-01-04 Thread lollisoft
Using sdcard for debian may be no problem. What I currently don't know, is if I still can use uBoot or have to install Qi with seems may fail. I don't want to kill the boot manager accidantly and then be unable to reflash :-) But this is RTFM I must do :-( BTW, I have a 16GB card that is

Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)

2009-01-04 Thread lollisoft
Hi, I am sad. The new version in testing from today does not contain an installable mplayer. Where must I go to download one for my FR ? Thanks Lothar kimaidou wrote: Hi Guys I am using a shell script on Ubuntu which uses mplayer to play internet (streaming) radio stations. I attached

Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?

2009-01-04 Thread lollisoft
Sorry, my post should look like this :-) That's what I see when list installed: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep gps fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - tangogps - 0.9.3-r3.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep framework frameworkd -

Buying a FrogPad in the UK

2009-01-04 Thread Thomas White
Hi all, I'm interested in buying a FrogPad keyboard to use with my FreeRunner, but I can't find a UK distributor. According to www.frogpad.com, the UK distributor is Scan, but their website denies all knowledge of it. I also drew a blank with Amazon, Dabs and even eBay. Has anyone in the UK (or

(OM2008.12) Blackness

2009-01-04 Thread Paul
Hi all, I know, I am going through distro's like crazy, but that's how I am. I flashed OM2008.12 but I can't keep it going. It boots, and after something like only 30 seconds it already blanks the screen and plays dead. Is there some setting I can adjust quickly to keep it working? Paul --

Re: Offer to write some neat programs for the Freerunner

2009-01-04 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Sargun Dhillon xbmodder+openm...@gmail.com wrote: B) Open Source Push Everybody has heard of Push, right. This whole Push E-mail, Push application notification. I was basically playing with the idea of writing a push framework for the Freerunner. People could

Re: Buying a FrogPad in the UK

2009-01-04 Thread Andy Selby
Try these people http://www.keyboardspecialist.co.uk/category/keyboard_type/frogpad/ Though they don't quote a price on the website. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: (OM2008.12) Blackness

2009-01-04 Thread Thomas White
Paul p...@nlpagan.net wrote: I know, I am going through distro's like crazy, but that's how I am. I flashed OM2008.12 but I can't keep it going. It boots, and after something like only 30 seconds it already blanks the screen and plays dead. Is there some setting I can adjust quickly to keep

Re: Buying a FrogPad in the UK

2009-01-04 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/1/4 Thomas White ta...@cam.ac.uk: I'm interested in buying a FrogPad keyboard to use with my FreeRunner, Whoa, that's a nifty keyboard! I'm in Cambridge too, and would love to see your FrogPad in action if you can get hold of one. I'd be very grateful if you'd keep me posted (on or off

Re: (OM2008.12) Blackness

2009-01-04 Thread Paul
When you say it boots, do you mean it got all the way to an X desktop? Aye, it does get there. It sounds like you might be experiencing a crash when suspending or resuming, and auto-suspend is switched on. You can disable this in Settings. I used to have problems like yours (almost

[QtExtended] Proper way to invoke suspend?

2009-01-04 Thread Martin Bernreuther
Hello, on a Linux system (with ACPI) it is possible to invoke a suspend through echo -n mem /sys/power/state (see http://ols.fedoraproject.org/OLS/Reprints-2008/brown-reprint.pdf (chapter 5, 6th page 42); http://www.linux.com/articles/54610,

Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)

2009-01-04 Thread Daniel Nöthen
I've just found out that you can control mplayer via a fifo file. So to quit mplayer in a good way you could do the following: 1. Create a fifo somewhere: mkfifo mplayer_fifo 2. Start mplayer within your script like this: mplayer -quiet myradiostation -input file=mplayer_fifo 3. Write this

Re: Buying a FrogPad in the UK

2009-01-04 Thread Pablo Ruiz Múzquiz
I got mine through thinkgeek.com and I live in Spain. Regards, Pablo Asunto: Re: Buying a FrogPad in the UK De: Andy Selby andyfro...@googlemail.com Fecha: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:04:55 + Try these people http://www.keyboardspecialist.co.uk/category/keyboard_type/frogpad/ Though

Re: [QtExtended] Proper way to invoke suspend?

2009-01-04 Thread Lorn Potter
Martin Bernreuther wrote: Hello, on a Linux system (with ACPI) it is possible to invoke a suspend through echo -n mem /sys/power/state (see http://ols.fedoraproject.org/OLS/Reprints-2008/brown-reprint.pdf (chapter 5, 6th page 42); http://www.linux.com/articles/54610,

Re2: [QtExtended] Proper way to invoke suspend?

2009-01-04 Thread Martin Bernreuther
Hello Lorn, thank you for the fast answer. Am Sonntag, 4. Januar 2009 22:58 schrieb Lorn Potter: What is the proper way to suspend the Freerunner for QtExtended? (Probably the last one. But is there more to be done?) Proper way is to just let it suspend on it's own. My problem is, that

Re: [2008.12] Mediaplayer

2009-01-04 Thread Giovanni
Great !!! It works! Unfortunately, if I plug the earphones, I can still listen to the sound from the loud speakers. Do you know how to solve this problem? On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 4:27 AM, Glen Ogilvie n...@linuxsolutions.co.nzwrote: On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:17:50 +0100, Giovanni

Re: (OM2008.12) Blackness

2009-01-04 Thread William Kenworthy
Go into settings and turn suspend off. When suspended, you should just have to push the power button briefly and it will come out of suspend - however it rarely did for me, and even if it did it was broken requiring a reboot anyway. Install the illume theme (see wiki) and use the wrench illume

Debug Board in Vancouver, BC

2009-01-04 Thread Vasili Sviridov
Hello All, Since both my previous posts haven't helped me to fix my phone looks like I need to devirginate it. Unfortunately I do not have the debug board, and paying $100 + shipping is a bit steep for just one thing to do. Is there anyone in Vancouver, BC that has one and willing to help me

Re: [2008.12] Mediaplayer

2009-01-04 Thread Tim Dobson
Giovanni wrote: Great !!! It works! Unfortunately, if I plug the earphones, I can still listen to the sound from the loud speakers. Do you know how to solve this problem? Not persoanlly but there are daemons/scripts that do this properly... search headphone script openmoko 2008 or

Re: [2008.12] Best media player?

2009-01-04 Thread Carl Lobo
I ultimately settled on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokoko. NeoQPlayer seems like a good bet as well... On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 4:58 PM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: i have 2008.12 working great on my FR as a phone. But the image did not come with a preinstalled media player. SO I

Re: Car Charger?

2009-01-04 Thread Carl Lobo
Another question: Does someone have seen a docking station like item to place the phone when driving I've used a very simple solution for a docking station. I just stuck a piece of velcro on my dashboard and I strap my FR onto it through the hole in the casing near the mic. I have to flip the

Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?

2009-01-04 Thread lollisoft
not on the FSO image, but on the Debian with FSO framework. Maybe he could do that but I am not (FSO image). I think bebause of Zhune. Beside all that: The newer testing image from here http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/images/om-gta02/openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090104-om-gta02

Re: [2008.12] Mediaplayer

2009-01-04 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Giovanni wrote: Great !!! It works! Unfortunately, if I plug the earphones, I can still listen to the sound from the loud speakers. Do you know how to solve this problem? Simply use alsactl -f restore to load the headset.state scenario file... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux

Re: Offer to write some neat programs for the Freerunner

2009-01-04 Thread Sargun Dhillon
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Alexandre Franke alexandre.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Sargun Dhillon xbmodder+openm...@gmail.com wrote: B) Open Source Push Everybody has heard of Push, right. This whole Push E-mail, Push application notification. I was basically

Re: Offer to write some neat programs for the Freerunner

2009-01-04 Thread Sargun Dhillon
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Jos vd Snepscheut j...@snepscheut.nl wrote: Hello Sargun. Yes I have a few programs I would like to pay for a little (as I did for windows) 1) a keyboard, yes yet an otherone, like Touchpal. See http://www.CooTek.com. TouchPal is an innovative soft keyboard

Re: Offer to write some neat programs for the Freerunner

2009-01-04 Thread Graeme Gregory
Tiny mail is query based, or pull. That means it eats up more batteries than a push based system, also it is not a general purpose push framework... Not so true, tinymail will use IMAP IDLE if available and that is a push mechanism. Graeme

Re: Offer to write some neat programs for the Freerunner

2009-01-04 Thread Sargun Dhillon
IMAP IDLE is not a push mechanism... SMS is a push mechanism. Something that doesn't require the FR to be out of suspend mode before a push... Also, tinymail is designed around e-mail messages, and isn't designed as a general purpose push mechanism. On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Graeme Gregory

Re: Debug Board in Vancouver, BC

2009-01-04 Thread Mike Montour
Vasili Sviridov wrote: Hello All, Since both my previous posts haven't helped me to fix my phone looks like I need to devirginate it. Unfortunately I do not have the debug board, and paying $100 + shipping is a bit steep for just one thing to do. Is there anyone in Vancouver, BC that

Re: Debug Board in Vancouver, BC

2009-01-04 Thread Vasili Sviridov
Wow, that's detailed :D Thanks, I will try this right away... V. Mike Montour wrote: Vasili Sviridov wrote: Hello All, Since both my previous posts haven't helped me to fix my phone looks like I need to devirginate it. Unfortunately I do not have the debug board, and paying $100 +

Re: Buying a FrogPad in the UK

2009-01-04 Thread Thomas White
Sam Kuper sam.ku...@uclmail.net wrote: Whoa, that's a nifty keyboard! I'm in Cambridge too, and would love to see your FrogPad in action if you can get hold of one. I'd be very grateful if you'd keep me posted (on or off list, as you prefer). Will do. Watch out for the next Cambridge OM

Re: Debug Board in Vancouver, BC

2009-01-04 Thread Vasili Sviridov
Ok, that made it even worse :( Now I only have NOR uBoot and dfu-util still gives me only 1 alternate there which is USB Device Firmware Upgrade. Cannot flash the NAND uBoot, since dfu-util does not see the required partition... Vasili Mike Montour wrote: Vasili Sviridov wrote: Hello

Re: Buying a FrogPad in the UK

2009-01-04 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/1/5 Thomas White ta...@cam.ac.uk Will do. Watch out for the next Cambridge OM pubmeet as well. Thanks. Is there a separate mailing list/etc over which the pubmeet will be arranged? Cheers, Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Debug Board in Vancouver, BC

2009-01-04 Thread Mike Montour
Vasili Sviridov wrote: Ok, that made it even worse :( Now I only have NOR uBoot and dfu-util still gives me only 1 alternate there which is USB Device Firmware Upgrade. Cannot flash the NAND uBoot, since dfu-util does not see the required partition... Don't pay too much attention to the

Re: Debug Board in Vancouver, BC

2009-01-04 Thread Vasili Sviridov
Mike Montour wrote: Vasili Sviridov wrote: Ok, that made it even worse :( Now I only have NOR uBoot and dfu-util still gives me only 1 alternate there which is USB Device Firmware Upgrade. Cannot flash the NAND uBoot, since dfu-util does not see the required partition... Don't pay

Re: Debug Board in Vancouver, BC

2009-01-04 Thread Mike Montour
Vasili Sviridov wrote: Thanks, what's the good version of NAND uBoot to flash? I don't know - I haven't been keeping up-to-date with Openmoko development for several months. I'd try http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin first.

Re: Debug Board in Vancouver, BC

2009-01-04 Thread Vasili Sviridov
Yay, that worked. Thanks a lot, now i should be able to play around with the new distro. Vasili. Don't pay too much attention to the dfu-util -l output - there are two different modes the device can be in, and in the default one you don't see the other alternate settings listed. When you

Is it possible to keep ASU Enlightenment profile...

2009-01-04 Thread Vasili Sviridov
... but use Illume's keyboard? Default one in 2008.12 sucks so bad... :( I want to keep ASU profile because if i switch to illume it keeps segfaulting at random actions and intervals... Vasili. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

December Google analytic report of Wiki

2009-01-04 Thread Brenda Wang
Dear Documentation team and Community : I updated the December 2008 google analytic report of of wiki. You can check it on follow link : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_statistic_numbers#December.2C_2008 Here is the summaries : 1. Compared to November , December's visits and pageviews was