Re: Openmoko Neo FreeRunner GTA02 versions A5 A6 Audio Buzz - Quality Enhancement Service

2009-06-05 Thread Richy
from the website: Location: SDG Systems, LLC 219 Glen Rape Road Cranberry Township, PA 16066 Seems to be in the USA, according to googleMaps. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 07:19, Max m...@darim.com wrote: Great to hear that... Btw, where do you actually situated?... at least information about

Re: Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..

2009-06-05 Thread a dehqan
In The Name Of God Thanks alot for your attentions ; 1- There is need a phone with a good sound power to have listening voice with headphone ,have calls, recieve and dial ,send and receive sms in persian language (farsi) , as for these needs first does neo freeruner fulfill these needs ? second

Re: request for audiotagging

2009-06-05 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
OSM yes, Openmoko Yes. There's some kind of mapping GUI at http://tui.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tui/tui/mokomapper.py?view=markup It shows buttons that you can press to add tags in .osm format: speed limits etc. I haven't had a close look at it, it was suggested to me here:

Re: Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..

2009-06-05 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
2009/6/5 a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com: Thanks alot for your attentions ; 1- There is need a phone with a good sound power to have listening voice with headphone ,have calls, recieve and dial ,send and receive sms in persian language (farsi) , as for these needs first does neo freeruner

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-05 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Do remember that each FR is a bit unique in the audio side - it's possible that the best alsastate for YOUR fr isn't around and you have to make some adjustments yourself.. I think that every FR is possible to make sound good after the buzz fix but it might involve some playing with alsamixer. r

Re: Openmoko Neo FreeRunner GTA02 versions A5 A6 Audio Buzz - Quality Enhancement Service

2009-06-05 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
He wrote that he is in the US. We also run the same program for a while for EU customers: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework Nikolaus Am 05.06.2009 um 08:01 schrieb Richy: from the website: Location: SDG Systems, LLC 219 Glen Rape Road Cranberry Township, PA 16066

Re: Openmoko Neo FreeRunner GTA02 versions A5 A6 Audio Buzz - Quality Enhancement Service

2009-06-05 Thread NeilBrown
On Fri, June 5, 2009 4:32 pm, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: He wrote that he is in the US. We also run the same program for a while for EU customers: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework Nikolaus Any suggestions on a best course of action for Australian customers?

Re: request for audiotagging

2009-06-05 Thread kimaidou
Hi all My experience of OSM mapping : * tango gps : just gps tracks * OSM2go : live editing (get position by gps, download, view and edit the vector OSM data with synchro of the changes on upload) -- great, but a bit heavy and has no soud recording tool http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osm2go

Re: request for audiotagging

2009-06-05 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:57 AM, kimaidoukimai...@gmail.com wrote: I really wish we have a tool as OSMtracker for our freerunners : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMtracker It has big button, can record audio, etc. . Is there any hope one with coding skills can use it as an example to code

Re: QT Improved - predictive dictionary

2009-06-05 Thread Glen Ogilvie
On Sunday 31 May 2009, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: Glen Ogilvie n...@linuxsolutions.co.nz wrote: Oh, one thing I noticed is it seems that the predictive dictionary on the keyboard is disabled.. Is that intentional? yes it is, but you can reactivate again by sliding diagonal: left down

Re: Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..

2009-06-05 Thread a dehqan
In The Name Of God Thanks alot for your attention 2009/6/5 a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com: Thanks alot for your attentions ; 1- There is need a phone with a good sound power to have listening voice with headphone ,have calls, recieve and dial ,send and receive sms in persian language

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-05 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
Christian Gagneraud schrieb: Sebastian Hammerl wrote: Hi, Hi Sebastian, about the conversion I cannot help you because I don't know the openbmap format. I talked with the openbmap owner about collaborating and got to the result that it will only happen in the way that

Re: Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..

2009-06-05 Thread Ed Kapitein
SNIP 3-Can we have stream gprs from phone to pc by bluetooth by FR ? I can't see why couldn't it be done, actually I think someone have done it already. Whould let me know who had done that ?any link ?where can be that work be found ? Perhaps you need to make a bit more clear what you

Re: request for audiotagging

2009-06-05 Thread kimaidou
hum, this is a start, indeed. Could someone test it and post screenshots here (or anywhere else, the wiki is a great start..) ? My freerunner is in Germany for a buzzfix :(. Thanks in advance 2009/6/5 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:57 AM, kimaidoukimai...@gmail.com

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-05 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 10:14, Sebastian Hammerl wrote: Christian Gagneraud schrieb: Sebastian Hammerl wrote: I've looked at opencellid.org website, and couldn't find any information concerning the database, how can a user access the data for example... there is an api

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-05 Thread Christian Gagneraud
Stefan Schmidt wrote: Hello. On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 10:14, Sebastian Hammerl wrote: Christian Gagneraud schrieb: Sebastian Hammerl wrote: I've looked at opencellid.org website, and couldn't find any information concerning the database, how can a user access the data for example...

Re: Mailing list glitch?

2009-06-05 Thread Harald Welte
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:16:50PM +0200, Harald Welte wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 03:21:26PM -0300, Werner Almesberger wrote: Doug Jones wrote: Has this bug been there all along? Does our community's collective memory have a hole in it? Seems that it chopped the mail at the

Re: Openmoko Neo FreeRunner GTA02 versions A5 A6 Audio Buzz - Quality Enhancement Service

2009-06-05 Thread Ben Wong
I know it's unlikely somebody will accidentally send their phone to Cranberry, PA, but I'd like to point out that the SDG page for the rework says, Send phone(s) to: SDG Systems Attn: FreeRunner Rework Program 114 W. Grandview Ave., Suite 1 Zelienople, PA 16063 --Ben On Thu,

Re: Mailing list glitch?

2009-06-05 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/6/3 Doug Jones dj...@frombob.to: Has this bug been there all along?  Does our community's collective memory have a hole in it? After Harald now fixed the issue, a proper URL is: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2009-June/33.html -Timo

Re: boxar : New Audio Application (download or watch video)

2009-06-05 Thread RzR www.rzr.online.fr
Hi thank you for testing , glad you liked this toy Some users reported that on some distro (OM2009) it cant start because /dev/dsp is busy... how comes ? something changes on ESD ? any hints welcome... I just comited upstream ... Also any of you tested it on Qtopia based distro ? To be

LinuxTag 24-27 June Berlin

2009-06-05 Thread Wim Vandeputte Mailing list only
Hey, In order to offer some 'safe haven' for Openmoko users, I have applied for an Openmoko.org booth at LinuxTag. Unfortunatly due to space (and budget) constraints, there is no full booth, but I'm offering half of my existing OpenBSD booth, so both are in Halle 7.2b, Stand 111 I'll bring

Re: request for audiotagging

2009-06-05 Thread matthias
Well, dictators author, that's me. I'm about to add a feature to correlate your voicenotes to gps-coords via a textfile. that's all i can do with dictator. my freerunner is about to be buzz-fixed near munich, so i can't make any progress on this now. recording in background during your whole

Re: LinuxTag 24-27 June Berlin

2009-06-05 Thread matthias
I'm open for suggestions ;-) What about having every distro available on one freerunner/neo1973? That makes about 11 freerunners (om2007.2, om2008(FDOM), om2009, SHR, Android, pure debian, Hackable:1, neovento, gentoo, Qtextended, openwrt). Wouldn't that be a powerful presentation of how free

Re: request for audiotagging

2009-06-05 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/6/5 matthias matthiasfels...@web.de: recording in background during your whole osm-mapping-ride will produce a huge wav-file which won't fit onto a regular sd-card. so beware of that. 22kHz, 1 channel, 16 bit is 2.5MB/min - this is more than good enough quality for picking out words, etc

Re: request for audiotagging

2009-06-05 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 05 June 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/6/5 matthias matthiasfels...@web.de: recording in background during your whole osm-mapping-ride will produce a huge wav-file which won't fit onto a regular sd-card. so beware of that. 22kHz, 1 channel, 16 bit is 2.5MB/min - this is more

Re: request for audiotagging

2009-06-05 Thread ivvmm
matthias wrote: Well, dictators author, that's me. Hello, thank you very much for your app! recording in background during your whole osm-mapping-ride will produce a huge wav-file which won't fit onto a regular sd-card. so beware of that. Please, make it produce not wave, not flac, not mp3

Re: LinuxTag 24-27 June Berlin

2009-06-05 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:01 PM, matthias matthiasfels...@web.de wrote: I'm open for suggestions ;-) What about having every distro available on one freerunner/neo1973? That makes about 11 freerunners (om2007.2, om2008(FDOM), om2009, SHR, Android, pure debian, Hackable:1, neovento, gentoo,

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-05 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 05 June 2009, Christoph Pulster wrote: It's more than welcome to see Openmoko Inc. is still very much in support of the Freerunner/GTA02 and will provide the community with support in areas like the hosting infrastructure as well as the legal side (trademarks). Please remember

Re: LinuxTag 24-27 June Berlin

2009-06-05 Thread DJDAS
Giovanni ha scritto: You forgot Slackware, with ArmedSlack: http://www.armedslack.org/ :) Sorry for my ignorancebut either in the wiki or ML I read about this distro and subscribed to the armedslack ML but there is no place where Freerunner is considered to run it, can someone point me

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 12

2009-06-05 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 05:02:29 am Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: It's been a while, but we haven't been sleeping :-) Thanks so much for all this work Franky, et. al! One thing I've noticed (after playing around with the other distros) is that it seems like QtMoko takes a lot longer to resume from

Re: Openmoko Neo FreeRunner GTA02 versions A5 A6 Audio Buzz - Quality Enhancement Service

2009-06-05 Thread Brian Fuller
Hi Dan. We are glad to be able to help with the resolution of this issue. Regarding the invisible shield, if it's not easily removed we will carefully work around it but cannot guarantee that it will not be damaged during the repair. In regard to the other fixes you mentioned, since we do

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 12

2009-06-05 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 11:03:35 pm Chris Samuel wrote: If I try the older kernel (uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin) will that break anything in the QtMoko image or install ? Well I've just given it a shot and it feels like it's roughly halved the amount of time it takes the phone to

Re: Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..

2009-06-05 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 05 June 2009, a dehqan wrote: In The Name Of God Thanks alot for your attentions ; 1- There is need a phone with a good sound power to have listening voice with headphone ,have calls, recieve and dial ,send and receive sms in persian language (farsi) , as for these needs first

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 12

2009-06-05 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 11:03:35 pm Chris Samuel wrote: If I try the older kernel (uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin) will that break anything in the QtMoko image or install ? Well I've just given it a shot and it feels

Re: request for audiotagging

2009-06-05 Thread matthias
I tried to get ogg-encoding working, but as I'm limitted to Python and the python-wrapper for ogg-encoding simply do not work when it comes to encoding, i gave it up. I know about speex but until now there was no chance to get pyspeex on my freerunner. If there's anything I've missed, making

Re: Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..

2009-06-05 Thread Evgeniy Ginzburg
2009/6/5 a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com In The Name Of God Thanks alot for your attentions ; 1- There is need a phone with a good sound power to have listening voice with headphone ,have calls, recieve and dial ,send and receive sms in persian language (farsi) , as for these needs first does

Re: Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..

2009-06-05 Thread a dehqan
In The Name Of God Thanks alot for your exact attentions ; Yes kapetein that was the need . On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On Friday 05 June 2009, a dehqan wrote: In The Name Of God Thanks alot for your attentions ; 1- There is need a

Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.20

2009-06-05 Thread Cameron Frazier
The toolbar in illume's settings is easier to use because it doesn't scroll vertically.  I know. But I don't know how to stop that. Michael Zanetti wrote: I've noticed this in other apps too. All lists scoll slower if the smooth-bounce-back-at-end feature is enabled.  Can't seem to stop

Re: Popping up virtual keyboards via PyGTK, double click rate

2009-06-05 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 04 June 2009, David Ford wrote: I've been told that telling the widget to grab the focus should pop up the virtual keyboard, but it has yet to happen. Not quite - it responds to various X atoms being set. This post has some more info, including c code. You may

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-05 Thread Onen
Hi, Sebastian Hammerl wrote: about the conversion I cannot help you because I don't know the openbmap format. This is most probably doable, just a matter of converting it. What annoys me, is that ch will upload to oci, we will import oci data on regular basis. If we import the data from

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-05 Thread Onen
Hi, Christian Gagneraud wrote: I'm using cellhunter since few month, with which i have gathered some data (1646 cells so far here in Ireland) and uploaded to their server. Thanks for the contributions! I would like to give a try with OpenBmap, is there a way to convert data from CH to OBM

Re: Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..

2009-06-05 Thread a dehqan
In The Name Of God Thanks alot ; Isn't there arabic keyboard else ? would you tell what are the problems ? Now is it possible to send arabic or farsi sms or not ? I'm not programmer and maybe can not do anything for that . Regards dehqan On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Evgeniy

Re: Mailing list glitch?

2009-06-05 Thread Doug Jones
Harald Welte wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 03:21:26PM -0300, Werner Almesberger wrote: Doug Jones wrote: Has this bug been there all along? Does our community's collective memory have a hole in it? Seems that it chopped the mail at the line beginning with From. Not sure where the rest

Re: Openmoko Neo FreeRunner GTA02 versions A5 A6 Audio Buzz - Quality Enhancement Service

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Mosher
Max wrote: Great to hear that... Btw, where do you actually situated?... at least information about continent you're in would greatly help in estimating shipment costs :) cheers, Max. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Pat Meier

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Mosher
Christoph, I will politely ask you to retract your comments about Pat. Each and every press release issued by Openmoko was written by me and issued with my approval and Sean's approval. Pat is in charge of the mechanics of getting those releases distributed and covered by the press. As PR

RFC Using MPX for accelerometers

2009-06-05 Thread Abelenda
I've had an idea that might not be so bad. MPX is due for the next release of Xorg, so why not use it for the accelerometers, it could create a somewhat standard interface for the applications (think about compatibility for other devices than the freerunner) to see the state of the

Do I need the buzz-fix?

2009-06-05 Thread Warren Baird
Hey all, I'm getting a bit confused about whether I need to get the buzz-fix operation done. Since I switched to http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset-a7.state a few days ago I've generally been satisfiied with my audio quality - a couple of people I've called have

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Mosher
Thanks Christoph for your clarification. I have a minor quibble with your characterization. When Openmoko started as a project in FIC, it started with a Vision. That vision was to create a open mobile phone. Its the job of marketing to message that vision to the customer. Thats what we did.

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-05 Thread Yorick Moko
true, But although I didn't do any actual testing myself, I read that conversion mp3--ogg sometimes doesn't sound good y On 6/5/09, Pieter Colpaert freep...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's a bad idea in general to discuss the topic. MP3's are non free and should not be used by any openmoko-user.

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Mosher
I am somewhat constrained in what I am able to say. On one view there is the position, held by some, that any hardware that is merely CAPABLE of mp3 decode is required to apply for a license. MP3 was removed from our images long ago and from the repositories. The requirements of the license

Re: Questions about Openmoko cellphones ..

2009-06-05 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 21:25, Ken Youngr...@cfa.harvard.edu wrote: dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: [...] I'm not programmer and maybe can not  do anything for that . I think it is very unlikely that you will be able to get an Openmoko phone to work for you with Farsi text unless you able to do

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-05 Thread Onen
Hi, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Sebastian Hammerl wrote: I just saw that openbmaps imports the opencellid data so there will be the cellhunter data in in future. That's a good point, but for example, yesterday evening i've uploaded lot of data (about 5 hours sampling every 10 seconds,

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-05 Thread Onen
Hi, Stefan Schmidt wrote: cellhunter ist not submitting to opencellid yet, because i have to prepare the data for that but it will happen. BTW, what will happen with the ARFCN informations then? That is a very good point. As I stated in another email on this thread, if we would upload

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-05 Thread Onen
Hi, thanks for the nice comments! Yorick Moko wrote: My personal preference goes out to openBmap, because I think they combine quality and quantity; quality: they log the most data (they are even working on TA) quantity: they have all the cells of cellhunter and opencellid For now, we

Re: Do I need the buzz-fix?

2009-06-05 Thread Leonti Bielski
If you generally stay in the same area and don't experience buzz you may not need it. If you move a lot in some conditions you may experience it or may not, so you should get a fix just in case. In nutshell - buzz is something every not reworked Freerunner has. You may experience it or you may

Re: Do I need the buzz-fix?

2009-06-05 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I would like to know which hardware revision my phone has. I'm sure this has been explained again and again, and I'm sorry to keep beating the dead horse, but I still don't know what revision I have. I'm pretty sure it's before A7, but is it A5 or A6?...

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-05 Thread Tim Schmidt
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Steve Mosherst...@openmoko.com wrote: I am somewhat constrained in what I am able to say. On one view there is the position, held by some, that any hardware that is merely CAPABLE of mp3 decode is required to apply for a license. So these dolts want a license

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-05 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/6/5 Tim Schmidt timschm...@gmail.com: On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Steve Mosherst...@openmoko.com wrote: I am somewhat constrained in what I am able to say. On one view there is the position, held by some, that any hardware that is merely CAPABLE of mp3 decode is required to apply

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 12

2009-06-05 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 11:56:14 pm Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: well, there we're indeed dependent on the kernel itself. Is this a stable 2.6.28-based kernel? It's 2.6.24mw-g291a9d50 - much older! -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-05 Thread Werner Almesberger
Christoph Pulster wrote: I see ONE active Mailinglist (here) and nothing more worth to mention. openmoko-kernel used to be very busy. Now it's a bit more quiet with kernel maintenance being rearranged, but I expect it to pick up some more activity again before too long. Also, these days, the

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-05 Thread Boris Wong
Hi Steve, Steve Mosher wrote: 1. Its a mobile Phone First, and a multi purpose platform secondarily I actually like the perspective of #1 very much and you should keep it as such. As I am to understand, the core philosophy of Openmoko is the Free the Phone. There are many platform hardware

Re: Freerunner's Future

2009-06-05 Thread Dale Schumacher
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Boris Wonglists.bo...@bshed.com wrote: Steve Mosher wrote: 1. Its a mobile Phone First, and a multi purpose platform secondarily I actually like the perspective of #1 very much and you should keep it as such. ...snip... Free the phone; we already have

Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.22

2009-06-05 Thread c_c
Hi, Cameron Frazier wrote: in c (derived from [1], look at the bottom): elm_scroller_bounce_set(self.obj, h_bounce, v_bounce) Thanks. That helped. I needed to update my elementary libs on the laptop too. So here's the latest version - without the bouncing - and yes it's a lot simpler to

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-05 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
David, Once was said OM was in sue trying to resolve this but I have no more info on that for a long time. You have a good memory! :-) Yes, we were working with the Software Freedom Law Center in New York on our patent strategy. There was a decision of the US Supreme Court that undid some of

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-05 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Christoph, Openmoko phones are MP3-free and thus do not infringe on any MP3 intellectual property. Wolfgang Christoph Pulster wrote: It's more than welcome to see Openmoko Inc. is still very much in support of the Freerunner/GTA02 and will provide the community with support in areas like the