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:) -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko.org Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: test123 / ml should be working again

yay :) please also read http://admin-trac.openmoko.org/trac/blog/lists%20are%20back -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko.org Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Openmoko Beagle Hybrid

Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: The problem is not technology or DIY capabilities, but cost. What we want to have is a nice case achievable for everybody, not only the enthusiast who wants to spend time and money for experimenting with DIY hardware or commercial FDM. So the question

Re: git.openmoko.org / GTA02 kernel sources?

. fatal: early EOF fatal: index-pack failed iMac:tmp hns$ should be fixed now the repo got quite big so we hit memory as well as diskspace quotas at the same time ;) i just cloned the kernel repo and it went through fine at 800kbyte/sec kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko.org Central

Re: Abwesenheitsnotiz community Digest, Vol 110, Issue 70 erfolgreich auf Virenfreiheit geprueft

Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Please unsubscribe this guy. Oguz, if you are on a mailing list, you better change your subscription options before going on vacation. disabled his mail delivery in mailman. he can reenable it himself easily via the webinterface. kind regards -- Joachim

Re: dfu_upload error -84 when trying to backup images

i dont know if it actually worked out correctly. So does flashing new images work? Is it just uploading that's broken? Yes, and yes. -Rusty please refer to these tickets: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/tags?q='dfu' -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services

Re: More posts to Planet Openmoko

languages we can still think about splitting that again. Anyways, I’d be interested to join. just taken a look at your blog.. nice.. please add a category like Openmoko, tag your articles in and we are good to go. kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services

Re: Tester please?

the 'djbs licensing madness'-issue, but i see he placed all that stuff under public domain last december.. nice surprise ;) with djbdns you may not notice this for years, i still have installations with 4 year old binaries of it running kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services

Re: Intel Atom

things into a tricky balance to have something usable at the end (and not a 'see how fluid it moves the icon' - 'oh.. batter is empty' - showcase ;) kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: What will be in GTA03?

will never make that error again. -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card

back to disk even if it shouldnt? -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: problems when upgrading the kernel with opkg / HELLO PLEASE NUKE BROKEN KERNEL PACKAGES

can nuke this package... | | http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/kernel-image-2.6.24_2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0_om-gta02.ipk removed. -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community

Re: new list for wiki (and other documentation) maintainers, and anyone interested in helping them

crud which seems just commentary from user to user ends up on the list? -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GSM Antenna Connector part of Closed System?

right away. -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

: http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Gta02_gps_10pf_rework_sop.pdf This fix could give almost same performance with SD card out of case. But this work still not suggest do by yourself, also, this fix need proper size capacitor (10 pf with 0402 package), and some solder technique. -- Joachim

Re: Battery Lifetime

to post from there (haven't tested that yet) this is not an extra forum but an additional view onto 4 of the mailinglists: - openmoko-community - support - devel - hardware if you like it, please speak up. -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services

Re: Problem in logging in freerunner through ssh

time. but beware: it ignores changing host keys completely then. (one could tap you usb cable!!1!) ;) kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org

Re: Wishlist Re: Can OM's wiki be used offline?

mail and we debug it off list kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Claws Mail

into a 'to be reviewed' files. then i want to see some testers saying 'yap' on the community-repository mailinglist and we'll add it to the repository. kind regards ps: we're still needing more testers for the CommunityRepository project ;) -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

of these. only the carrier who gave the sim out could identify or duplicate the sim, and would not need the numbers on the original for that because that information which one could look up is in their databases already. so no harm done by having them in a photo. -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central

Re: Internal Connections

the debug connector (right lower corner) kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

-res shot of the 'chip' (the layout of the pads is somehow 'characteristic') kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?

. regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Openmoko Webshop Reopen NOW!!!

cases we had this error it was the sending bank blocking the transaction till the card was activated for international billing or some similar automatic protection mechanism. kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community

Re: Openmoko Webshop Reopen NOW!!!

still) on any computer on my network. do you have any special nat features, a transparent proxy in use? ah.. and is JavaScript enabled? lets track it down. regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: motorola usb-3.5-headset: compatibility?

the issues with audio jack of the freerunner (whose impact i still fail to understand). sadly not. see above. regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: Community Initiative GTK

'call stability' problems from gsmd times and give you the same, maintained middleware which in the future hopefully all openmoko devices will use. kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: rationale for ASU (and change from GTK to Qt)

applications has been properly engineered, separating the core from the UI (MVC, three tier, PCMEF) so that it's just a matter of speaking a common protocol. me too ;) that would revamping them to fso middleware easier. kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services

Re: OEM market,any thoughts about that??

arrives, ... waiter, another beer, please. just have fun. be sure we will give you a note before you trip any lines we need to keep ;) kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: Shipping details

will cost. I can't find much information on the UPS web site on insurance. dunno, but i guess they are. What payment options will you have. visa, master, jcb or so.. no amex, no paypal atleast thats what i know and whats prepared. -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services

Re: Trac down?

Roland Häder wrote: Hi OpenMoko team, it looks like your Trac at http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ is down? thanks for noting. fixed. -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: USB connectors on FreeRunner Hostmode

/a/a4/Gta02a5_pcba_ps.JPG the connector labeled with 'H-BTFPC01' since usb is kinda 'point to point' you could/must add a hub to keep bt working. kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

free and or open driver development at all ;) btw.. did you see any total power ratings anywhere? guess why they are missing... anyways... kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

more than yours) since i never listen to fm radio anymore. its more important to have the 3.5 mm jack for reasonable headphones, and a solid and good quality audio electronics in front of that, for me. lets all thank joerg, that he has already taken care of that ;) kudos. regards -- Joachim

Re: Our new Main page of wiki

process to work such stuff down. ;) -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Induced hardware issue with 01?

, a corner of a businesscard or a real sim/flash in and test again. the simcard holder/micro-sd socket used on gta01 was known to be able to short when pressure is applied, so this is probably a good thing to avoid. regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services

bugzilla migration complete, now trac

to reach the right ticket in trac. right now i think we have too many different 'components' to choose from when adding a bug, so this will get cleaned out a bit soon. please test and report bugs on this new setup via http://admin-trac.openmoko.org kind regards your admin team -- Joachim

Re: Neo as cellular modem?

. this is controlled by firmware on the wifi module in this specific case. = ap mode would need another firmware which we do not have and not know if it exists at all from atheros to be loaded into the wifi module. so there is nothing we could do on the driver front to change that. -- Joachim Steiger

Re: Available Encryption algorithms

;) -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Europe Distribution

regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Neo 1973 sales

wanted to know. (and nothing surprising to me, knowing the activity of the opensource community here in europe) i can't give you any more specifics, these are under nda. such stuff is up to steve. ;) -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services

Re: OpenMoko codebases with Linux Cross Reference (LXR)

is the man for the perl stuff. still... perl is and will stay ugly ;) (just my own view).. too much 'write only', not intended for reading by people != the author. i have it on my wishlist ;) -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko

Re: OpenMoko codebases with Linux Cross Reference (LXR)

that it seems atleast 'do-able' (even if i really do not like perl code anymore ;)) kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: microSD support

Giorgio M. wrote: I know that freerunner will support MicroSD memory. yes I want know wich capacity it will support?can i use 8GB microSD?? yes. all SD and SDHC compatible cards should work. tested with 4gbyte myself. -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services

Re: questions for steve regarding group purchases

discount the whole point of it is: we are no escrow company, we are no bank, we are not paypal. we build the free and open mobile phone. and we want to focus on that. kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community

Re: Is anyone else getting 2 or 3 copies of every mails?

to track down whats happening. kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Wiki is down

88.198.93.221 wiki.openmoko.org to your /etc/hosts for today. tomorrow/later everything will be fine by itself. ;) kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: Wiki distorted in Firefox 3?

bugzilla to a trac soon. will write up about it as soon as we are done (do not worry, no bugs should be lost at all, we will migrate them) kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: Request for stable, automated build process

, the rest is a plugin Thanks! Bobby btw: we still want to hire a web_developer_ (needs to know python i say);) -- Joachim Steiger developer relations/support ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org

Re: Request for stable, automated build process

the checkin rate is sometimes much higher than what buildhost could build. (cron triggered) -- Joachim Steiger developer relations/support ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Request for stable, automated build process

it will stay the same forever. this enables incremental builds being quite fast while oe still should know when to rebuild if somebody updates the recipe with a new(higher) PR or a new version. but i think our OE crowd can explain these details much better than i can. -- Joachim Steiger developer

Re: Request for stable, automated build process

', not only a 'built something' 'did report exit=!0' yes i want that. but let us finish work on getting trac first please ;) if you know your way around trac, python and OE i am happy about everyone who can help me there. -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services

Re: Charging Neo Freerunner via USB port

to be valid chargers. -- Joachim Steiger developer relations/support ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: High Resolution Openmoko logo

OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Also you'll notice the OpenMoko community mailing list... should that be Openmoko? Andy it does. fixed. see below ;) -- Joachim Steiger developer relations/support

Re: GSoC 2008: Call for ideas

suggestion anyways kind regards -- Joachim Steiger developer relations/support ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Interview with Raider Realm

and exchanging a few parts. it also needs to be recalibrated. to sum it up: the status is that a 850mhz rework for gta01 for 'the masses' is not possible. please bear with us that this was not a decision taken lightly. -- Joachim Steiger developer relations/support

Re: support for using yyyy-mm-dd (2008-01-31) date format in Wiki and elsewhere

. ps: please do not get me started about how chinese do count years (its '97 now, you know?) or how germans do it ('/' instead of '-' and starting from the other end) ;) kind regards -- Joachim Steiger developer relations/support ___ OpenMoko

Re: Wiki - confusion

that original naming scheme. Neo1973 is a class of devices, not only one specific model. gta01 and gta02 are models. FreeRunner a synonym for gta02 release version kind regards -- Joachim Steiger developer relations/support ___ OpenMoko community mailing

Re: Community update: The 850 MHz issue

that service from a fic branch on quite short notice. at the factory there is no logistics which is suited to single pieces at all. so all the phones went to the us and got distributed from there. kind regards -- Joachim Steiger developer relations/support

Re: community Digest, Vol 52, Issue 11

. -- Joachim Steiger developer relations/support ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Qemu-Neo doesn't seem to work Ubuntu 7.10

if /bin/sh points to /bin/bash and NOT /bin/dash (see also http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Using_QEMU_with_MokoMakefile ) kind regards -- Joachim Steiger developer relations/support ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update

similar) without having to run a closed source daemon? yes. it can also be switched to UBX protocol, but in default it speak NMEA and the regular gpsd can (and will be) used. so the last closed source component on the app-cpu is gone for gta02 -- Joachim Steiger

Re: neo schematics for i2c access

/Neo1973_Debug_Board_v3 ) if you have further questions, please do not hesistate to contact me directly. kind regards -- Joachim Steiger ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Help Request for our Webshop

Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: 2007/9/23, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The standard Open Source Web Shop is OSCommerce (http:// www.oscommerce.com/). The only requirements it does not solve are * it is witten in PHP * it has its own database model Hi! Recently I'm running a

Re: Help Request for our Webshop

sorry.. this of course should read Joachim Steiger wrote: this mail should NOT de-motivate anybody. but i think it is important that we already took a punch at it and got a bloody nose. we really know what we want and what we don't, now. first caffeine, then mail ;) -- roh

Re: Neo Base/Advanced

at this page http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=OpenOCD_configuration the debug board is pin-compatible with the amontec jtagkey tiny, just with different usb-ids the essential config is: ft2232_vid_pid 0x1457 0x5118 ft2232_layout jtagkey Shachar kind regards -- Joachim Steiger

Re: Neo Debug Board Schematics or Pinouts

with 3.3V) you just need to keep in mind that the serial is getting switched on and off by GSM_EN and some latches on the debug board. kind regards -- Joachim Steiger ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: Neo Debug Board Schematics or Pinouts

start openocd to use portA as jtag J1 on the debug board is JTAG in regular arm 20pin out kind regards -- Joachim Steiger ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

openmoko at the chaos communication camp 2007

regards -- Joachim Steiger ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: ...Order shipped: OpenMoko direct order

unmodified firmware, intended for the real hardware on it and work on apps for example. kind regards -- Joachim Steiger ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: this phone, with WiFi

. Probably usually not a biggie, since you're often actually doing something when you need it, but eg. using the Neo as a BT GPS probably would apparently be otherwise feasible with a bit less of a drain. thats why the ar6k module will be connected via 4bit wide sdio -- kind regards Joachim Steiger

wiki write access limited

due to a lot of spam/edits by bots we now have limited the write access to users who have registered a working email-address. were sorry for that. please report when there are any new bugs due to this. regards -- roh ___ OpenMoko community mailing

Re: Disconnected LCD

Hans van der Merwe wrote: Will the phone still work - bootup and function as normal - if I disconnect the LCD? It for an experimental, low power, vacuum environment. yeah, it should work. [...] http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm the only question it leaves me with is: what do you