Hey,
just wanted to add another 2-cents to the bucket, which by now should
contain a lot of small change ...
Reading some of the mails in this thread I think we need to get the
definitions straight:
- fso - phoning middleware
- shr - a distro which comes with fso preinstalled
- om2009 -
Hi,
I am still alive and by no means agree that I am not doing anything.
I would agree that I am not coding right now. I am in active contact
with the pyneo crew, met with them in Hamburg and talked with fgau of
epydial how to get the apps into paroli. MDT of pyneo who has started
2
Hey again,
On 3 Aug 2009, at 19:01, Steven Le Roux wrote:
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Mirko
Lindnervegyra...@paroli-project.org wrote:
Hi,
I am still alive and by no means agree that I am not doing anything.
I would agree that I am not coding right now. I am in active
contact with
Hi,
On 24 Jul 2009, at 02:04, Nicola Mfb wrote:
Hi!
Is om2009 and paroli in a temporary sleeping status or was development
terminated?
Somethings changed in the last days and may be now there is less man
power to improve them.
Less man power is the right way of putting it. There still is
to the blog roll.
Is mirko the same Mirko Lindner who is used to work on paroli?
Hehe, indeed :)
I would like to see the team behind the project. Is it possible to
have a short introduction interview with every member inside Qi
company? Or is it the same tight-lipped policy as with Openmoko Co.?
Check
Hej guys,
just a quick note about Om2009 testing releases.
We won't follow our usual weekly schedule for now, as there are a few
things that need fixing first.
It is mainly stuff in the framework as well as paroli. Before these are
fixed a testing release won't make much sense as it won't be
Hi,
Sorry for the delay in answering, I was at a conference over the weekend.
Ben Wong wrote:
Thanks for the update. Unfortunately Om2009 is still not a usable
phone out of the box for me. I realize that this is probably my fault
for not persevering, but I will be reverting to SHR since
Hej,
Johny Tenfinger wrote:
so - the question I have - should this be a separate app - or should this
be considered a proposal for the new Paroli UI
Maybe your right with Paroli UI, but I, as SHR user, would more like
to see it as part of libframeworkd-phonegui-efl ;)
The launcher in
Hiya,
Toni Mueller wrote:
Hi,
I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;}
Yeah, we want it all :)
Yesterday I felt bold and flashed Om2009t3 onto my phone, but neither
moko11 nor the new u-boot yet, though. Playing around without a SIM
card installed, I found two problems
Hej,
Toni Mueller wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, 15.05.2009 at 12:53:22 +0400, Alexey Shvetsov alexx...@gmail.com
wrote:
You can read Cyrillic letters =) but you cannot write them. ticket already
openned for it.
will this work for other languages, too? Eg. Chinese comes to mind...
Yes in fact
Hi,
Max wrote:
As far as I understood it's just a text strings.
Is that possible to change them without actually re-building paroli?
It would be great if I could just edit some configuration file and set
something like:
utf8_str_IO = Call log/Журнал
utf8_str_TELE = Звонилко
utf8_str_MSG
Hi,
thanks for sharing your findings. Really, all this is helpful to us!
So I first changed profile and surprised happily that there are
terminal (and nano) pre-installed, so I got ssh over wlan working
without any hassling with usb. But then my connection disconnected
because phone
Hej,
Aapo Rantalainen wrote:
So I first changed profile and surprised happily that there are
terminal (and nano) pre-installed, so I got ssh over wlan working
without any hassling with usb. But then my connection disconnected
because phone suspended. I turn suspending off in illumes
Hey there,
A lot has happened over the past couple of months, but most important in
my mind has been getting OM2009 out into
the hands of the community. When we set the very limited goals of OM2009
we had two goals in mind:
1. Give those members of the community who only wanted a daily
Hi,
pike wrote:
OK, I am inclined to try that.
Yay :)
Installations instructions say
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009
If you have not upgraded the GSM firmware do that too
but it doesnt say which version of firmware
needs upgrading, or any way to check your
current firmware
Hi,
Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
I really like the simple design but it must be easy to use, too, for a
someone that steals my phone (or who I give my phone to :). On the
other hand I'd like it to be colourful, with background image and
everything but maybe that comes with the themes (if Paroli is
Hej,
Would you point me to link so I can watch for bug status and know
exactly when om2009 ready for real-life testing?
There is basically 2 places:
the paroli trac:
http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/
and the om main trac:
https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/
Hope those help, the channel paroli
Hi,
Warren Baird wrote:
Hi all,
I thought I'd share my experiences so far with the testing release.
I've been using QT Extended 4.4.3 as my primary phone for more than 6
months now, but I decided to try putting the OM2009 TR3 build on my SD
card to give it a shot.
Great and thx for
Hej,
Ben Thompson wrote:
Hi Folks
Has anyone else noticed that Om2009 does not suspend anymore after
recieving a call? I think this only happens if it wakes from suspend
in the first place.
this is probably due to a problem in paroli. On activating a call it
used to occupy the CPU
Hi,
Tom Yates wrote:
i noticed that too. in at least one case, for me, it can also make no
more calls itself (the call button in the tele screen does nothing).
mirko, you sound like you've got a good handle on this. would more logs
be helpful, or should i just say me too and sit down
Hi,
thanks for the kind words and the list of issues. We are trying to get
all of them reproduced, so that I can hunt them down :) If you can
reproduce the freezing issues or where the UI crashed, it would be great
if you could open a ticket on http://www.paroli-project.org/trac and
attach
Hi,
Petr Vanek wrote:
wow! i haven't tested stability, but the settings app is full of
great features some of them missing in other distros i.e. message
delivery notification and call forwarding. and i big plus - the
responses are really fast.
Glad you like it :) Can you let me know if
Hi Petr,
thanks for the detailed report and especially for sharing it. I already
stated at the issues you mentioned and hope to report positive outcomes
later this week ;)
Some comments are in-line
Keep it coming :=)
/mirko
Petr Vanek wrote:
sending sms while off signal gave no error,
Hej,
blokkie wrote:
Hi ,
When pressing the power button for 1 sec it powers off very fast . .
This is _nice_ . I like it a lot. But there is no way to lock it or put
it in sleep via this button
What happens is indeed suspend, not a shut-down.
In SHR there is a exelent way to trap
Hi,
When I want to create a new SMS , it first shows me the num-pad to enter and
then the text.
Would it not be more easy to first type the sms , then select contact(s) ||
type the tel number in ?
Does it make a difference ?
Who is working on the GUI ?
That would be me than.
Hi again,
blokkie wrote:
Yes ,
Image you want to send a sms to a bunch of people , then you would have to
enter all the numbers first (because you
cannot select contacts from your phonebook yet :-)) ,
Actually you can, just tried it on testing again. Hit the number field
(the place
Hi,
arne anka wrote:
assume, you want to sent the same message to several recipients.
you type the msg once and select either a list of recipients (given, the
ui allows that) or the message is avaliable again after sending and you
can select another recipient to resend.
in both cases
Hi,
Oh - and paroli gives me an error that it wants to replace default.edj
owned by elementary theme. Is that related by any chance?
I think paroli might play a role here. The elm theme we install sets the
text color in elm-entries to white rather than black. Afaik there is no
way to
Hi there,
HouYu Li wrote:
Hi, all! Just tested om 2009 testing build. It is Nice.
Glad to hear :)
But.. how can I reject an incoming call?? The only button available is
answer.
The button to the left of answer (shoudl be a speaker symbol) disables
all sounds and hitting the top bar
Hi,
Is paroli still being worked upon? I see that the latest git changes
were made 10 days ago. Some kind of holiday going on?
Sure, I am still fighting :)
Stumbled across some issues that meant I had to do a lot of research etc.
I am trying to get elementary in and etk out. That requires a
Hi,
Marcel wrote:
Does this mean that paroli will finally also run on debian which is missing
python-etk? I'd be really happy to hear that. :D
That would be part of the deal yes :) I am not sure how long the switch
takes, but I am doing my best. If anyone wants to lend a hand, I'd be
Hej,
I tried to stay out of this thread as the discussion drifted away from
paroli towards general discussion about OM's behavior, which is not
controlled by me, but it seems to me that here 2 things are mixed that
simply are unrelated and I am being judged based on a conversation
log(!) and
Hi,
I've been tracking OM unstable. Now that Paroli is starting at boot
with a full-screen I can't figure out how to start any other
applications outside of using ssh. Then once started the application
doesn't have the Illume top-bar available to do any of the functions it
provided such as
Hej all,
here an overview if the highlights of the things the paroli team has
been working on in week 9 and the first part of week 10:
-the msgs application is in and being shipped in every build
you can view, send, receive, answer to and forward messages
also it will offer you to save any
Hej all,
I just wanted to send a gentle reminder about the upcoming paroli
codesprint at the Chemitz linux days.
It is a whole day of live coding and hacking in paroli. I thought we
should focus on getting a flexible, stable settings application in
paroli. The foundations have been written
Hej Ilya,
Ilya O. wrote:
1) How long FreeRunner currently works as everyday phone? (Please,
tell me that it can survive for a day).
It can indeed survive longer than a day. Mickey did some tests and
published the results here on the list.
2) What distribution is currently developed by
c_c wrote:
Hi,
The freerunner and 1973 have only 2 buttons. While the power button is
being used for suspend and for switching off, the 'AUX' button seems under
utilised. I was wondering whether there could be a method added to FSO that
allowed overloading of this button based on the
Hi,
Brenda Wang wrote
I have updated the Paroli 's information on Wiki page. And continued
maintain this page. Feel free to use it.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli
Great, thx. I changed the links a bit to match the new locations.
/mirko
Hi,
Timo Jyrinki wrote:
What plans are there for I18N of Paroli? I'd like to already start
doing initial translations for various Paroli applications, but I do
not see gettext usage / .pot files etc yet.
I have to admit right now there are no plans as such. I guess using
gettext for the
Hi,
I can't speak for the whole engineering, but I can bring light on paroli
and the respective images.
Over the past 7 days we have:
- gotten daily build unstable images which by now boot directly into paroli
Hi,
Scott Petersen wrote:
No need to wait. I have been using Paroli as my daily phone software on
FSO MS5 for almost 2 weeks. It has been extremely stable. A bunch of
functionality is not there yet but the one basic thing that has just
worked is as a phone. Dialing works, answering works,
+ef21f72ff9e33d1a083bc933e4e3824b28207a18-r0_armv4t.ipk
This should contain the msgs application and there is some storing of
contacts in tele as well.
see: http://www.paroli-project.org/running-paroli/tele/
/mirko
qhaz wrote:
Mirko Lindner-2 wrote:
Hi,
I met with the fso team last week and wanted to share some
Hi,
after some long struggles the paroli package is back.
There is packages in fso MS5 openmoko unstable (those two are the same)
as well as openmoko experimental. The latter should be build from the
latest revision. A small manual how to get it:
Install the following:
kernel:
Hi,
I met with the fso team last week and wanted to share some of the outcomes.
We talked about releases and especially about what we need for a fully
functional paroli. We came up with fso milestone 5.5. It will focus on
the tings desperately needed for paroli - namely bluetooth, pim and some
Hi,
Sven Klomp wrote:
Hi Mirko,
create a file in the /etc/opkg folder with the content:
src/gz openmoko-experimental-armv4t
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/experimental/armv4t
Then do an opkg-update and opkg install paroli .
Hm, paroli is downloaded from :
opkg update
- install paroli
opkg install paroli
- launch paroli
on your desktop click the icon named PLauncher
the paroli launcher will appear might ask for your PIN etc.
Once the gray overlay disappeared from the launcher you can start Tele
and make a call :)
/mirko
Mirko Lindner wrote:
Hi
Hi,
I am almost certain that that is not a paroli error.
See more comments below:
Arigead wrote:
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Ok now I've got Paroli up and running and removed the test stuff from
the config file. I'll cut and paste the output to the terminal windown.
Hi,
Hi Mirko,
according to the Paroli web pages this is a good a place as any to
discuss issues on Paroli. Perhaps it'd be better on Devel which doesn't
see much action these days?
Either one works, if we get to technical devel is probably better.
Anyhow thanks for your help I got
Hi,
Arigead wrote:
Got python-edbus installed but still hitting problems with running
paroli on MS5. My Python is not good enough for my looking at the code
to have any point but if I get a chance later I'll try find the source
of the problem. If anybody has any ideas in the mean time that
Hi,
The paroli version used in MS5 seems very very old (in paroli terms) I
will try to get it updated.
/mirko
Marc Bantle wrote:
Hi,
I just installed FSO M5. Are the paroli-apps that come
with M5 supposed to work ? I always get the following
error:
root INFO launch
Hi,
We updated a few things and think we are ready to change the sec rev.
I also changed the setup.py a bit so it should be easier recognizable
what to do ;)
In essence,just click the icon on the desktop (there is only the
PLauncher) and that should open a launcher window.
Would be great if
Hi,
Just in time with FSO’s Milestone 5 we are releasing our first tutorial.
It outlines how to create a simple app, write a simple service and do
some basic interaction with edje.
read more at:
http://www.paroli-project.org/2009/02/03/paroli-says-hello-world/
/mirko
Hi all,
in the good tradition of weekly updates we will try to to get back on
track of keeping you posted on current developments in the paroli and
GUI section.
For the code base of paroli(d) the past weeks development has been
focused on the core on the one hand and finishing the first set
Hi
William Kenworthy wrote:
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 10:40 +0100, Jorge Luis Zapata wrote:
Just an observation - looking at your website in firefox, the white text
on very dark grey is readable, but the dark grey on very dark grey is
barely visible and to all intents unreadable - more contrast
The Paroli Team wishes all of you a happy new year.
Our last update was a while back but development continued and, despite
sickness, vacations, Christmas, New Year's as well as jet lags, a lot
has been accomplished.
Most importantly, you can now find a paroli package in the testing
Hi again,
just a small note, paroli nedds enlightenment and Illume and relies on a
standard keyboard being configured in Illume.
/mirko
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Hi,
Do we have to kill or remove qpe to use Paroli ? (any resources conflict
maybe ?)
The fso might have a problem with qpe, so I guess a clean fso M4 or 4.1
is safest ;)
/mirko
Xavier.
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Le vendredi 09 janvier 2009 à 10:53 +0100, Mirko Lindner a écrit :
Hi,
Do we have to kill or remove qpe to use Paroli ? (any resources conflict
maybe ?)
I just installed paroli on 2008.12. I can start PLauncher (despiste some
crashes) but couldn't register so far.
* does paroli
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Hej,
sorry it took a bit.
As there was not much response I thought this might be due to lack of
communication from my part. I have to admit paroli is rather well hidden
right now, but I am working to change that.
So far I am happy to say, that
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Hi,
I used the current tichy fresh from the git and adjusted the runparoli
page [1]. Should you have further problems please let me know and I'll
try to help and also start collecting for a FAQ or common problems
while installing.
Ah, btw there were
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Hi,
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 22:13 +0100, Mirko Lindner wrote:
This is a version without functionality, but implementing this is not
difficult and the dialer has been written to be easily adapted to
actually work.
The reason for this non-working
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Hi,
A quick update on things happening on the paroli-front.
In short the svn is growing in size and so is the wiki.
I just uploaded a new version of the paroli-dialer application which
makes use of of edje rather than a toolkit.
This version of
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Hi,
last week I told you a bit about the paroli project and what happened so
far.
I want to keep you updated and maybe bring a little more light into the
darkness surrounding paroli.
There where two main tasks for the past week:
a) make paroli run
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Hi Julien,
Just so you know, SHR already chose this path, and we successfully
built our dialer based on EFL (and currently moving to elementary),
using frameworkd, and libframeworkd-glib which is used as a tool
allowing the developer to forget
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Hi all,
FSO and EFL are ready for deployment, tichy is waiting for plugins and
Openmoko is steady on course.
So now it is time to take the next step.
Meet paroli. It will combine the technologies mentioned above in order
to provide a unique user
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Hi Marco,
My main question is how to manage the PIM. Will you wait for the FSO PIM
implementation or is there any other way to manage contacts and SMSs
(first of all) without using the SIM?
For now paroli only supports the SIM card, but as I
Hi Fredrik,
thanks for the kind words, I thought I'd chip in with an article on
http://www.linux-magazine.com[1].
Looking forward to seeing you and other Openmoko enthusiasts and
freedom activists at FSCONS [2] ;)
/mirko
[1] http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/news/
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