Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
YES.
It's my only phone for over a year. I did the buzzfix and gps cap myself
and got no complaints there.
Adjusting the call volume is a sorely missed feature, though.
But the slowness of the software does tend to screw up
I do understand the skepticism, but thinking about the apparent success
a pseudo-open platform like Android is having near the manufacturers and
users, I'd say there is a very good chance something groundbreaking (in
terms of market attitude) may actually happen. Android is fierce
competition,
Downgrading to QVGA is something that should have been done a long time ago.
There's no point in trying to force a badly designed system.
How do we do it? Which files must be changed?
Citando Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:57:27 +0300 Evgeniy Karyakin
Then I'd say this is a very desirable feature (kernel parameters when
booting from flash), if and when anyone tinkers with Qi again.
Citando Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com:
Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt writes:
I'm booting from Flash, not SDcard.
Shouldn't the /boot/append file work
I'm booting from Flash, not SDcard.
Shouldn't the /boot/append file work the same? If it doesn't, where are
the kernel parameters defined?
Paul Fertser escreveu:
Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt writes:
I'd like some help here, please.
dmesg doesn't give me any clues.
I removed the quiet
I've started experiencing the same in the last few days.
The Neo's clock had always been impeccably correct, until now.
Now it was half an hour late and I set it by hand.
It appears the clock is drifting, and otimed isn't keeping it in sync
with the GSM.
The only hints in frameworkd.log are:
I'd like some help here, please.
dmesg doesn't give me any clues.
I removed the quiet splash from /boot/append-GTA02 and added
glamo_mci.sd_drive=5, but none of it is sticking. It's ignoring the
file altogether, AFAICT.
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That's a though question, especially due to the differences between a
car and a phone. :)
When it comes to pure Community building, IMHO the leaders seem to be
Ubuntu; so you should probably talk to Jono Bacon or read his book. ;)
Regarding the Openmoko community, I think it works better now
Some genius in a high ground took upon himself to rename it opkg-cl,
therefore breaking our beloved scripts.
Seek and ye shall find.
Citando Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com:
Hallo,
I got the latest SHR unstable and when trying to run 'opkg' I get:
Ok, then, I apologize.
Citando Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com:
On 8/11/09, Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt wrote:
Some genius in a high ground took upon himself to rename it opkg-cl,
therefore breaking our beloved scripts.
Seek and ye shall find.
That's not renaming by some
I've been following this discussion from a distance, not paying much
attention, but I'd like to warn that this fix is better done by
replacing the original capacitor. One should avoid putting wires
inside an RF can, especially if they run towards the outside of the
can. It ruins the can
I couldn't resist the current talk about #1024 and capacitors... I
made an update on the Jokespage of the wiki:
Q. It looks like every HW problem in the Freerunner is solved with a
larger capacitor. What do you think went wrong in the design process?
A. I think it was a lack of capacity.
I think you're all missing the point.
David's initial post is a breath of fresh air into a long debated but
(AFAIK) non-resolved issue.
I deeply welcome his investigation into this subject, and support his
questions (which I also would like to see answered).
Although the issue of low
Hey, take it easy, stop going berserk, and wait for the announcement.
They will talk to us when they're good and ready, so save your energy for then,
and stop raising confusion.
Be civilised. Be smart. Be silent (until necessary).
Citando Moko Mania mokom...@gmail.com:
we are very much
Citando KaZeR ka...@altern.org:
Indeed, stopping fso-gps made it work, thanks for the hint. The drawback is
that you loose all the benefits of fso's gps handling : on demand statup,
shared access, etc.
That's more or less true. You see, when you stop the fso-gpsd, you
only stop the gpsd
Citando Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org:
Does anyone know a program/script that converts the dbus messages to gpx
format?
Now i us gpspipe to get nmea and gpsbabel to create gpx files.
Ideally, _someone_ should join the effort in FSO and expand fso-gpsd
to produce GPX output... ;)
(I'm
of the navigation solution will always be aligned to
the top of a second.
Vasco Névoa wrote:
I've tried configuring (via frameworkd's om.py) the chip with a 3000ms
period between samples, and sure enough gpspipe is outputting only one
set of messages per every 3 seconds - so this proves my CFG-RATE
I don't have much of a problem there... see this:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS#Configuration_for_a_higher_sampling_rate
However, you must remember that frameworkd sends a lot of
configurations into the chip, and it keeps talking to it, so it might
be a bit of a hassle to
Citando Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no:
Ouch.
Having the framework _managing_ the gps (turn on/off, configure,...) is
fine. But why regenerate the data, what is wrong with pass-through? The
more cpu work, the more delays. And the gps may very well be used for
real-time purposes. And of
Hi all.
I'm used to putting the GTA02's ublox chip into 4Hz sample mode for my
research projects, but ever since I started using FSO and derivatives
I can't get it to spit out anything other than 1Hz samples - so I just
stop fso-gpsd, configure the chip at my own will, and read directly
the timestamps
coming out of gpspipe end with .00, which is obviously wrong.
Many of the sentences are repeated, like the SW couldn't wait for the
next UBX data block and just repeated the last data block.
Who is doing this sample mangling?
Citando Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt:
Hi all
Thanks, Paul.
I ended up upgrading from shr-testing to shr-unstable, and the
problems are gone.
So, the non-functional kernel+g_ether must have been:
http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.28-stable+gitr0e5fe639e234cdeb11d8441f19c5b3109a8b6a17-r2-om-gta02.bin
And the
Hi folks.
The opkg upgrade broke the USB connectivity to Windows boxes once again.
Can anyone tell me which kernel versions have this running?
Thx.
V.
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plus its free : )
2009/5/6 Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt:
Hi folks.
The opkg upgrade broke the USB connectivity to Windows boxes once again.
Can anyone tell me which kernel versions have this running?
Thx.
V.
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I had to reflash because DBUS wasn't running the way it should and so
all the phone apps were broken. :(
But now the new kernel broke the windows USB connectivity again!!! Aaarrgghh!!
Citando Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com:
2009/5/4 Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt:
That's not all
That's not all that broke.
I opkg upgraded today, and shr-testing wouldn't launch X11 after a reboot.
It is looking for a bunch of modules named
/usr/lib/evas/modules/*/*/linux-gnueabi-arm-ver-pre-01/module.so,
but the only ones that exist are
Possible errors that lead to that situation:
- bad rootfs kernel parameters in u-boot environment; - check if you need to
change them;
- missing kernel modules for the specific filesystem you have formatted;
- either mismatch between rootfs and kernel images, or just plain bad kernel
image;
-
That explains it. :)
Well, Xavier, I gave up on my Portuguese accentuated characters a while ago.
Since I only use the keyboard's dictionary for SMS messages, it's ok
(kids today are writing a lot worse on SMS than just a few missing
accents...) ;)
It would be good to have someday, but I
Removing e-wm-utils and installing it again, plus your file, worked for me
(after today's update).
Thanks all!
:D
Citando The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com:
Ahh, so I guess I halfway fixed it without noticing... OK, so reinstall
e-wm-utils and then fix applications.menu?
I opened a ticket on that a while ago...
https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2178
No progress in 3 months...
Citando Daniel Benoy dan...@benoy.name:
I'm working on a script that will detect which network interfaces
are connected and mess with the routing accordingly, but I'm having
Thanks Paul, that's exactly it.
So, it's most probably a 2.6.* USB driver problem and we'll have to
wait for the kernel folks to get it right...
Citando Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com:
Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt writes:
Second, a weird problem I'm having... I updated my system
Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com:
Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt writes:
Second, a weird problem I'm having... I updated my system with opkg
yesterday, and a bunch os problems were corrected (yay!) and I'm using
the phone in everyday life, but now I can't login via SSH on my
windows box
Hi folks.
First off, a BIG THANKS to the SHR team; this is the best distro I
tried for GTA02 in a long while. :)
Second, a weird problem I'm having... I updated my system with opkg
yesterday, and a bunch os problems were corrected (yay!) and I'm using
the phone in everyday life, but now I
Hi all.
Does anyone know a good password vault application that we can use in OM?
Thanks,
Vasco.
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Ciao,
Rainer
[1] http://www.keepassx.org/
Angus Ainslie wrote:
Try Pyring it's on opkg.org
On Jan 9, 2009, at 7:24 AM, Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt wrote:
Hi all.
Does anyone know a good password vault application that we can use
in OM?
Thanks
Citando Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org:
Shouldn't it have to be 2A ?
Why should it? If the FR can charge at 3 different rates (100, 500,
1000mA), any charger that can give 500 or 1000mA is good enough... it
all depends on how much time you want to wait for a charge... ;)
I tested it
Well... not exactly.
I bought a Trust car lighter adapter (5V/1A) with its own cable, and
it doesn't charge the freerunner.
After reading all this, I think it must be the cable. I'm going to try
with a standard cable instead of the supplied one.
The supplied cable is very handy, it has all
I had a few problems with that myself, but they ended when I simply
removed all gsm0710muxd links from /etc/rc*.d/.
I think it gets launched on demand when you call it via dbus... and so
the 89qtopia line does the trick.
If you let it launch via 2 different ways at the same time, there
seems
That's strange, I didn't get the announce mail...
Citando Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org:
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:25:19PM +0200, Yogiz wrote:
Good news. I'll still wait for the announcement and for some
feedback before I roll it on. I've spent too much time
customizing my
Citando KaZeR ka...@altern.org:
Pro :
- OMG fast boot time (press power for 8 seconds (boring, why so long?),
start stopwatch at first line of text. Time to desktop : 38s!
Strange, I have an OM2008.9 fully updated with testing and my bootup
time is 30 seconds more than that... anyone can
I did the big-c buzzing rework myself, with the precious help of a
much more smd-experienced colleague.
It was very difficult to replace the resistor because of the proximity
of the components around the mic. A very sharp soldering iron is
critical.
I used a 1k resistor (didn't have a 2k2 of
Hi all.
I want to run a script automatically every time the USB is plugged or
unplugged.
Where should I hook in the scripts? /etc/apm/?/... or somewhere else?
I've looked into using the /etc/network/interfaces, but this doesn't
work because usb0 does not get downed on unplug - so it is
I'm kinda confused here... is this buzz issue the one where the
caller (not the neo) hears the GSM buzzing? The one that has a SOP
repair paper with the Big C?... or is it something else?
Citando Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Steve Mosher wrote:
Hi Steve,
A list on the wiki of all severe
I'd really like pictures with better focus and a little more light...
especially the last one, which is very blurred!
Citando Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Sorry,
I pulled the old copy. See below
SOP paper (draft3, 2008-12-10 19:00) placed here:
After today's testing upgrade, QPE is ignoring env var
QTOPIA_PHONE_DEVICE and going right for /dev/ttySAC0 instead of a
/dev/pts* like I want it to.
What is the new way to make it pick another device?
Surely you devs haven't forgotten there are people using gsm0710muxd?...
.
removed the battery module (its utterly useless in illume anyway) and
things run much better.
Overall though, there are fewer problems than 2008.9 :)
BillK
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 11:42 +, Vasco Névoa wrote:
After today's testing upgrade, QPE is ignoring env var
QTOPIA_PHONE_DEVICE
Yes, that's how I get my ballance... it's the operator that
automatically sends it at hangup.
I confirm that the dialer exits when we try to do it upon request...
Citando Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Vadim, Efimov wrote:
Another 2 positive points I forgot to mention:
- the
black fonts on black background. I hope someone can find out
what went wrong because I don't have time to work on it.
- John
Vasco Névoa wrote:
I've been trying the illume (gray) theme with the testing image, and
it is badly broken - Enlightenment keeps crashing at random moments
I've followed the community update tip and upgraded from OM2008.8
stable to testing. After a little havoc caused by the previously
installed gsm0710muxd, I finally got it to work on the GTA02v5.
I've only had it for a day now, but already I am very pleased with the
results!
Reduced boot
Citando Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
didn't you get WSOD?
No, I never got it, with this image or with any other. I suppose it is
HW-related?... probably one of those HW tolerances that is triggered
by bad SW habits... :(
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Citando William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Can you confirm that you can receive an SMS after being *suspended* for
~10 minutes or so? For me the phone comes out of suspend, but I have to
reboot (or restart X) to get at the message, and twice the phone (not X)
crashed after I accessed a
Vasco Névoa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I've followed the community update tip and upgraded from OM2008.8
stable to testing. After a little havoc caused by the previously
installed gsm0710muxd, I finally got it to work on the GTA02v5.
I've only had it for a day now, but already I am very pleased
Citando William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
And also yes, I have modified 89qtopia - but it doesn't seem to have
much of an effect :(
I found out how my illume keyboard went missing. From the wiki:
edit '/etc/enlightenment/default_profile' to use illume theme instead of 'asu'
So, if you just
, but at least
everything else rocks.
I find it very strange that the whole image works so solidly with the
asu theme and is so flakey with the illume theme...
Citando Vasco Névoa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Citando William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
And also yes, I have modified 89qtopia - but it doesn't
See:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate#How_to_install_the_illume_.28Raster.27s.29_keyboard_.3F
Beware:
at least on my system, when I replace the base asu theme with the
illume theme, Enlightenment crashes a lot.
Citando Armin ranjbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
How to get raster keyboard
I really don't like the fact that the state files have ALL the
controls in there.
Can't we eliminate the unnecessary controls inside each file?
I don't see why a speakerout.state file should have microphone
settings... it just adds to the confusion, and creates competition
between apps.
I've also tried FDOMizer yesterday, and I had to patch it by hand in a
few cases. Mainly, I had to update a few download links from
angstrom-distribution.org .
Citando Jonathan Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I just tried updating my FDOM using FDOMizer from the 20080927
version and have had
John, this new Update is an excelent move in several aspects. Keep it
going, and thank you very much!!
Citando John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dear community,
http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/10/is-openmoko-working-on-there-back-to.html
And please read my comment below. I have to say I
Citando Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Since i got my neo rather recently, i have only tried 4.4.1. Is 4.3 still the
better choice? A couple of days ago i lost my daily use phone
(motoming A1200)
and so i now need to use the FR as my daily phone.
I've been using ASU (OM2008.9) since the
Excellent report, Minh!
I've been having too little time to follow the traffic, you're a life
saver! :)
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I agree with you partly; the main efforts should go into getting the
new framework out - *as long as it runs on a rock-solid core system*.
So I support the idea of accelerating the FSO integration... but in
the meantime people have to use the sucking Qtopia ware in their
everyday life,
An important note to the people who are experiencing all-round instability:
I haven't had many problems with phone calls or SMS. I believe the
critical point was to disable QPE's file search upon bootup [1].
Before I did that, I had all kinds of mysterious problems (including
PIN), derived
. OM2008.x will simply
serve as a real-world testbed (one that is everyday usable!). When FSO
comes along, it will already have the necessary corrections...
Citando Didier Raboud [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Vasco Névoa wrote:
I agree with you partly; the main efforts should go into getting the
new
That's very strange to me... I've got Ubuntu 64bits, and no such problems.
I just turn on the FR in the NOR bootloader (AUX-POWER, not
POWER-AUX), and then go right ahead and use dfu-util without having
to specify the device number... if the machine does not detect it,
relaunch dfu-util.
I'm getting this error on OM2008.9 stable:
openmoocow: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Solved with opkg install libsdl-1.2-0
Thanks for this cute toy!!! :D
Remark: shouldn't it moo both ways (up and down)?
I forgot to mention: 7 - device rotation (for screen orientation and
OpenMooCow) :)
Citando Vasco Névoa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Paul.
Your tenacity is indeed an example. Congratulations on the fusion of
your academic and hacking lives! :)
I don't want to burden you even more, but I'd
Hi Paul.
Your tenacity is indeed an example. Congratulations on the fusion of
your academic and hacking lives! :)
I don't want to burden you even more, but I'd like to remind you of a
couple of details that may turn out to be important in the long run.
One thing I would like to see come true
I couldn't be happier!!! OM is listening indeed. :D
I know a few people will probably be disappointed because the
eye-candy won't get much attention for the next few months, but I know
that as soon as everybody start reaping the benefits of the Neo as a
lean-and-mean-robust-machine then
Thanks Treviño!
However, qpe complains of binary compatibility:
Coult not load /opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors/libficgta01vendor.so
errorString() The plugin
'/opt/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors/libficgta01vendor.so' uses
incompatible Qt library. Expected build key arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi
You, me, and Schindler makes 3. I guess by the time this actually
happens, it'll be a large party!! :)
Citando Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 02:01:01PM +0100, Vasco Névoa wrote:
The day I see my Neo booting in 5 seconds or less with a rock-solid
audio
Great! Now I know which client to use, let's play!!! :)
I've spent 15 minutes reviving my SQL (which I had forgotten for at
least 5 years), and this is what I have so far:
*
sqlite3 /home/root/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite 'Select distinct
nickname, title, firstname, middlename,
I noticed the webmail interface screwed up the line breaks, so this
time the scripts are attached.
Here comes version 2.
Changes:
- Configured the u-blox chip to send only relevant messages;
- Configured the u-blox chip to send 4 measurements per second instead
of just one;
- Don't try to
Paul wrote:
Timo Jyrinki wrote:
Does anyone know how to not only make a backup, but to export back to
VCF format from Qtopia/Om2008.8? I now added a section for it at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts - the 2007.2 section
has a script that handles it.
I wouldn't want to
Treviño, can you please attach whatever patch you have for this on the
Trac ticket (#1832, I think)?
There are at least 3 tickets open with relation to this problem, and
Holger is asking where is the patch... please put it up, even if it is
not finished. I'm sure he will know what to do. :)
Joel Newkirk wrote:
Sorry. ;) Near-stationary, power consumption immaterial, as accurate as
possible. As a project to get my feet wet doing ground-up development
(probably Python, which I need to learn) for the Freerunner (instead of
just cross-compiling and fixing issues therein) I wanted
of exactly say which angle the neo
currently has instead these are just aproximations.
Ciao,
Rainer
Vasco Névoa wrote:
That's very cool. I appreciate the mod. :)
I'm seeing something that looks like a bug (in both versions)... but I'm
not sure if the accelerometers require calibration
mathematically different)... and so each client app (Rotate, Gestures
Listener, BOINC, etc.) would pick up on the desired class of data.
Just an idea... :)
Vasco Névoa.
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Alasal wrote:
I think (by looking at the bugs that are fixed and aren't fixed) that the
om2008.9 is the same as om2008.8 updated between 16 september and 18
september. Because on 18 september there were updates for the om2008.8 that
aren't included by default in 2008.9. But the updates are
That's very cool. I appreciate the mod. :)
I'm seeing something that looks like a bug (in both versions)... but I'm
not sure if the accelerometers require calibration or something.
With the FR in vertical position, if I tilt it counter-clockwise, it
takes just over 90 degrees to get
I think the page (1) has grown too much and too messy. Maybe it's time
to break it apart into 1973 FR variants.
I know that both systems have a lot in common, but unfortunately they
are NOT equal.
I propose that the info about the FR is moved into a new page
(Neo_Freerunner_Audio_Subsystem)
The page is started. I'll keep working on it as time permits. Please
criticise/correct/add if needed.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem
Vasco Névoa wrote:
I think the page (1) has grown too much and too messy. Maybe it's time
to break it apart into 1973 FR variants
): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem#ALSA_Channels
Vasco Névoa.
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I've been using my uSDcard as /home.
So far, no problem, I reflash the device and mount it as /home and there
it goes. I've done this with testing and update images without much
problems. But today I was surprised to see that after reflashing I had
normal GSM network, and after mounting my
Matt wrote:
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Am Saturday 06 September 2008 03:01:33 schrieb Matt:
On Windows Mobile (pocket pc), a long tap is like a right click; it
invokes a context sensitive menu.
If text is selected, there are options for copy/paste/cut.
Are there plans for
Now in ticket: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1967
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've followed the discussion about dual booting, kernel packaging, and
kernel vs. distros, and the conclusion I reach is that the devs are
inclined to use (mostly-)monolithic kernels, leaving just the
This is now being discussed in the support list.
pand has been removed, dbus support is in place.
Vasco Névoa wrote:
Am I the only one to find that pand (the Personal Area Network daemon)
is missing and that it is no longer possible to establish a bluetooth
network connection with OM2008.8
Am I the only one to find that pand (the Personal Area Network daemon)
is missing and that it is no longer possible to establish a bluetooth
network connection with OM2008.8?...
Vasco Névoa wrote:
Up-to-date 2008.8/update with testing feeds here.
I can't find the pand to establish a bluetooth
Thanx Raster!! Finally got a decent keyboard. :)
Geoff Ruscoe wrote:
Thanks Raster
I also want to send thanks to the Rasterman! You've done so much to
help us all out. It is very appreciated. I now have a full keyboard
and wrench (and screen saver too).
thanks again!
Up-to-date 2008.8/update with testing feeds here.
I can't find the pand to establish a bluetooth network connection.
Can anyone tell me which package installs it?
Thx.
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Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
There is at least two that I know of, some ruby script:
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/browser/developers/alphaone/u-blox
And some python script in the FSO framwork. Look
framework/subsystems/ogpsd/
Cool. What's the requirements to get alphaone's ruby scripts
digger vermont wrote:
On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 10:59 +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
There is at least two that I know of, some ruby script:
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/browser/developers/alphaone/u-blox
And some python script in the FSO framwork. Look
framework/subsystems/ogpsd/
Hi all.
I don't know how far anyone has gone in this subject, so I took the
liberty to experiment.
I'd like to see the freerunner's GPS do the same any other GPS device
does: save the almanac/ephemeris data to storage upon shutdown and
restore it upon powerup. I don't know much about GPS, but
enaut wrote:
Christoph Pulster schrieb:
Hello,
thanks to Openmoko Inc. (great job Harry!) we received the new batch of
units in time. So EVERYBODY who got an order confirmation from me for
delivery-batch 15.08. will get his Freerunner in the next days.
In other words, we are busy
Hi folks.
Sorry if I'm asking something too obvious, but I can't find the ASU
images on http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/...
I see that all the links to ASU images in the mailing list end up in 404s...
So, 2 questions:
1 - where are ASU images;
2 - what exactly is hosted in
Hi. Sorry to barge in like this, but I don't quite understand the problem to
begin with...
Isn't open source code by definition protected against subsequent patents?
It is part of the patenting process to search for conflicting publications; if
they find any, then the candidate idea is not a
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