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I also note that Lorn's been completely silent for the past 24 hours.
I wonder if this is because he's (finally!) realised that he's been
digging a hole for himself, or if it's just because he got pwned once
again... Or perhaps he took my advice
On Wednesday 18 March 2009, Dale Maggee wrote:
Personal insults are completely valid and infact necessary when someone
provokes me by lying to me and/or being an idiot.
I'm sorry but I disagree entirely, if you have to resort to that then you have
already lost the argument.
Now will both of
hear hear - take it elsewhere.
That said, having had involvement in a similar situation elsewhere,
it's always emotional when a project moves from a closed pool of
developers into the an open source model. Exactly the same issues and
accusations.
2009/3/18 Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org:
On
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 02:22:14PM +1100, Dale Maggee wrote:
I'd suggest you filter out this conversation if you're not interested.
Good idea.
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sorry, but this is way over the top ... personal insults don't belong to a
public mailing list. Please stop this, Dale.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.netwrote:
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Lorn Potter wrote:
Dale Maggee wrote:
Aah,
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I'd suggest you filter out this conversation if you're not interested.
This discussion *is* actually leading somewhere, though: Lorn is
digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself.
And I'm amazed he hasn't just given up
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Franky,
As I said to others, If you don't want to read it, filter out this thread.
Personal insults are completely valid and infact necessary when someone
provokes me by lying to me and/or being an idiot.
Personal attacks are appropriate and
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Well, personally, I'd recommend you do it by the email subject rather
than sender - there's a chance I might say something useful to you in
another conversation...
...Lorn won't, though, cuz he's a liar - filtering out by his email
address is
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roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote:
Dale Maggee wrote:
This discussion *is* actually leading somewhere, though: Lorn is
digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself.
And I'm amazed he hasn't just given up and said something like OK,
you're right but
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W.Kenworthy wrote:
Sounds even worse than shr/2008x/FSO then - why oh why cant some of the
time spent on keyboards for any OM version be put into something that
works.
Oh, it's ass-and-a-half-of-full-cream-dairy-milk... ;)
Yeah, I can't fathom
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Sounds even worse than shr/2008x/FSO then - why oh why cant some of the
time spent on keyboards for any OM version be put into something that
works.
Well, obviously that is only his one opinion.
Actually, these are facts.
Dale Maggee wrote:
_insert previous email here_
With optimism, I have to say qte is rather polished and shows what
potential can be gleamed from the FR in certain areas.
Optimism aside, I have to agree with Dale on pretty much every point.
Although 2008.x is actually quite usable at the
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Quite actually, I was using the predictive keyboard long before anyone
on this list was, so yes, I have done this. Many times.
Quite actually??? Quite what? work on your english.
So you've done it, many times... awesome... I
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roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote:
Dale Maggee wrote:
_insert previous email here_
With optimism, I have to say qte is rather polished and shows what
potential can be gleamed from the FR in certain areas.
Optimism aside, I have to agree with Dale
To Dale (and in a lesser extent to Lorn):
let's agree to disagree, shall we? Some like the predictive keyboard, some
don't. There should be an easy way to disable the predictive part, for those
that don't like it (or indeed the word you typed should always be the first
suggested).
But that aside:
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(Alot, handing Lorn his ass on a silver platter, with dill leaves for
garnish and Lorn's choice of Chips with salad or vegetables on the side,
Pwning him back to whatever hole he crawled from after 3 months of
complete silence
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Franky,
This is not about agreeing or disagreeing, this is about Lorn's refusal
to acknowledge that there are issues with his software. All he has to do
is a) acknowledge that there are issues b) address the concerns I have
raised, rather than
Dale,
you must have a problem not related to Qt Extended at all. Do you
think someone is interested in your long and offensive mails that
have nearly zero information? Don't you like the keyboard? Send a
patch. If you have idea - write it down as short as it can be. If
the idea's good someone will
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Radek,
I'm just going to address this in quick dot points:
you must have a problem not related to Qt Extended at all.
My issue *is* with QT Extended. You suggesting that it is otherwise
indicates that you haven't read my emails properly /
On 16/03/2009, at 6:38 PM, Dale Maggee wrote:
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Dale Maggee wrote:
[snip BS]
PREDICTION: Lorn won't reply cuz I pwned him so hard he has to go to
perth to look for his dignity.
I think your spell checker is failing, because you use
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 07:27:57PM +1100, Dale Maggee wrote:
boot again, it been drying for a day, I'll leave it for a week and see
what happens. If it fails to boot, I'm buying an iphone.
Thanks for your support. It is clearly completely unacceptable to
sidestep the issues and focus on
I had to chime in one more time.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 08:40:03PM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote:
On 16/03/2009, at 6:38 PM, Dale Maggee wrote:
[snip BS]
Dale may have been direct in his oppinion of you but he included
everything you deemed constructive.
PREDICTION: Lorn won't reply cuz I pwned
On 16/03/2009, at 7:57 PM, Dale Maggee wrote:
seeing using the software. What I am *more* interested in is the
developer trying to tell me that my problems are not actually
problems,
trying to pretend like his software is infallible and/or it's me at
fault, when it is clearly and
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How can we when you just rant on and on and on?
It's easy: What you do is read the emails, and then address the concerns
I raised. Things you shouldn't do include: Contradicting yourself,
telling me about the virtues of features that don't work,
On 16/03/2009, at 6:21 PM, Dale Maggee wrote:
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Quite actually, I was using the predictive keyboard long before
anyone
on this list was, so yes, I have done this. Many times.
Quite actually??? Quite what? work on your
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Sarton,
A *big* Thank You to you for actually bothering to take the time to
read my emails in their entirety!
I too don't understand why some devs aren't willing to take a completely
presented and well constructed criticism, and admit that more
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Nah, I'm not concerned with symantics, I'm all about software
development. If it appears that in every single email I've sent this
afternoon, I have dealt entirely with grammar, spelling, and choice of
words, you're actually
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Aah, the fun continues...
because just perhaps I have an insight in how one is supposed to
actually be using it.
I think it's pretty clear at this point that the word insight is
completely foreign to you.
Wow, I have to give you credit - you
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Lorn Potter lpot...@trolltech.com wrote:
Unfortunately, however, as is your usual, you've not really answered
my
question: I was interested in bringing up the list of input methods,
not
cycling through them. It should be 2 clicks to change from
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote:
BTW. I use mutt ... is there a spell checker? Never bothered looking :)
I use mutt as well, and have it configured to use vim as the editor,
where you can have spell checking (and a ton of other features).
[please let's not start a Emacs/Vim
bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 07:28, Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.net wrote:
I haven't tried SHR yet, can't be bothered with the bullshit involved
with backing up your phone, importing contacts, etc. Plus IIUC SHR is
based on FSO, which still doesn't have any PIM except for contacts
stored on
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Johny Tenfinger wrote:
I don't know what would you say, if I'll tell you that I'm programming
on FreeRunner using qwerty keyboard and only with finger (for instance
in train - PM module in shr-settings is from train and was written
only with
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 15:06, Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.net wrote:
Is this in SHR? If so, maybe it's worth trying out.
Yes, it's standard Illume keyboard. SHR is using that ;)
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Johny Tenfinger wrote:
FSO has had PIM (opimd) since milestone5 (but disabled by default).
SHR will use it in nearly future.
O RLY?!?
:D
Awesome! So there's progress being made on that front at least, that's
great to hear! SHR is sounding more
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Johny Tenfinger wrote:
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 15:06, Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.net wrote:
Is this in SHR? If so, maybe it's worth trying out.
Yes, it's standard Illume keyboard. SHR is using that ;)
aah, excellent - that keyboard works
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.netwrote:
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Johny Tenfinger wrote:
FSO has had PIM (opimd) since milestone5 (but disabled by default).
SHR will use it in nearly future.
O RLY?!?
:D
Awesome! So there's
On Monday 16 March 2009, Dale Maggee wrote:
Johny Tenfinger wrote:
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 15:06, Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.net
wrote:
Is this in SHR? If so, maybe it's worth trying out.
Yes, it's standard Illume keyboard. SHR is using that ;)
aah, excellent - that keyboard
Dale Maggee wrote:
Aah, the fun continues...
[snip utter nonsense]
http://www.netalert.gov.au/advice/behaviour/netiquette_emoticons/What_is_netiquette.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette
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Lorn Potter wrote:
Dale Maggee wrote:
Aah, the fun continues...
[snip utter nonsense]
Utter nonsense, again, including questions which you persist in
ignoring, and discussion of the issues with your shit software which you
categorically refuse
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Lorn Potter wrote:
Dale Maggee wrote:
Aah, the fun continues...
[snip utter nonsense]
and you have just demonstrated your maturity level. Go home, your
parents want to wash your mouth out with soap.
Dale, lorn ... please, go take a cold shower and a few deep breaths to cool
down.
This discussion isn't leading anywhere ...
W
On Tuesday 17 March 2009 01:39:22 Lorn Potter wrote:
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Dale Maggee wrote:
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Lorn Potter wrote:
[snip utter nonsense]
and you have just demonstrated your maturity level. Go home, your
parents want to wash your mouth out with soap.
Haha, says he who repeatedly and persistently refuses to discuss the
issues! Wow, now you
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I'd suggest you filter out this conversation if you're not interested.
This discussion *is* actually leading somewhere, though: Lorn is
digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself.
wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wrote:
Dale, lorn ... please, go
On Sunday 15 March 2009, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
Some initial things I found after a first boot:
Out of interest, which version of QtExtended were you testing ?
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Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote:
On Sunday 15 March 2009, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
Some initial things I found after a first boot:
Out of interest, which version of QtExtended were you testing ?
the one from here:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be
wrote:
Some initial things I found after a first boot:
- upon boot, there's something about a ASoC driver (about the last
thing you see before the graphical stuff begins), but it also says
that this driver is only
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:26:51 +0800
HouYu Li kara...@gmail.com wrote:
- upon first boot, you're required to set the time/timezone, but
this setting is afterwards ignored and you need to redo this. So, if
possible, this first setting screen should be removed.
We can remove it...
well,
On 15/03/2009, at 2:17 AM, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:24:20 +0100
Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote:
Some initial things I found after a first boot:
- upon boot, there's something about a ASoC driver (about the last
thing you see before the
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Lorn Potter wrote:
I find the 'predictive' keyboard quite usable. You just need to forget
what it is suggesting until you are finished with the word.
But for any language other than English, it might be a hassle.
It isn't too bad, but it's
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:31:43 +1000
Lorn Potter lpot...@trolltech.com wrote:
- writing an sms is an almost impossible task ... unless you can
disable predictiveness and use a good keyboard, this will need
attention. The thing is that I want to write an sms with my
fingertips ...
I
Dale Maggee wrote:
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Lorn Potter wrote:
I find the 'predictive' keyboard quite usable. You just need to forget
what it is suggesting until you are finished with the word.
But for any language other than English, it might be a hassle.
It
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:31:43 +1000
Lorn Potter lpot...@trolltech.com wrote:
- writing an sms is an almost impossible task ... unless you can
disable predictiveness and use a good keyboard, this will need
attention. The thing is that I want to write an sms with
2009/3/16 Lorn Potter lpot...@trolltech.com:
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Lorn Potter wrote:
I find the 'predictive' keyboard quite usable. You just need to forget
what it is suggesting until you are finished with the word.
But for any language other
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Lorn Potter wrote:
Just hold down on the letter you want to select. You will see a round
'spy glass' thing pop up with your letter.
This is all well and good, but it's for all intents and purposes totally
useless in practical application - typing
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Lorn Potter wrote:
You just need to add your words to the dictionary, so you wont have to
tap so much.
...which is exactly why it should be very easy, perhaps even automatic,
to add words to the dictionary...
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is there a way to disable the prediction without connect to the USB ssh???
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Dale Maggee anti...@internode.on.netwrote:
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Lorn Potter wrote:
Typing numbers are not 'suggested'.
Fine, be fastidious if you must, You know what I meant.
How long did it take you to type your postal address? Now, how long does
it take on your PC?
Oh... you didn't test it? You didn't bother
On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 14:48 +1100, Dale Maggee wrote:
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Lorn Potter wrote:
Typing numbers are not 'suggested'.
...
As I said, if you can easily switch to the qwerty keyboard.
bwahahaha, that's a funny joke. Have you ever tried actually
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W.Kenworthy wrote:
Disable it - find the keyboard files and copy terminal.kbd over the top
of default and numbers. No dictionary, and terminal pops up nicely
instead of those brain dead ones - you wont miss them, I dont.
Thanks for the
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W.Kenworthy wrote:
Disable it - find the keyboard files and copy terminal.kbd over the top
...
It's kinda like having to choose between death by disemboweling or death
by dismemberment.
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Lorn Potter wrote:
Typing numbers are not 'suggested'.
Fine, be fastidious if you must, You know what I meant.
How long did it take you to type your postal address? Now, how long does
it take on your PC?
Oh... you
W.Kenworthy wrote:
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W.Kenworthy wrote:
Disable it - find the keyboard files and copy terminal.kbd over the top
...
It's kinda like having to choose between death by disemboweling or death
by
Some initial things I found after a first boot:
- upon boot, there's something about a ASoC driver (about the last
thing you see before the graphical stuff begins), but it also says
that this driver is only for gta01 hardware. Don't know if this
affects anything though ...
- upon first
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:24:20 +0100
Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote:
Some initial things I found after a first boot:
- upon boot, there's something about a ASoC driver (about the last
thing you see before the graphical stuff begins), but it also says
that this driver is
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