Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-25 Thread Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes
Thanks for the reply Steve, and sorry that I am being a bit confrontational! Of course I do not expect you to do your dirty laundry in public (but it was those lunchtime magnum bottles of champagne on the expense account, wans't it?), but since Andy did make a lot of good and very visible

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-25 Thread arne anka
There is one thing we tend to be very tight lipped about. HR issues. nobody expects to hear internals, but visible information about staff changes, at least when it affects people being some kind of om's face to community, would help. As to the other issues, there are some cases were

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-25 Thread Steve Mosher
Gunnar, I didnt consider your post the least bit confrontational. You should see some of the mails I send to folks. I like your suggestion about some sort of farewell announcement. Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes wrote: Thanks for the reply Steve, and sorry that I am being a bit confrontational!

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-25 Thread Steve Mosher
Inlines below. arne anka wrote: There is one thing we tend to be very tight lipped about. HR issues. nobody expects to hear internals, but visible information about staff changes, at least when it affects people being some kind of om's face to community, would help. A couple other

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Michele Renda
On 24/03/2009 03:44, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: The best would be just hire back those valueable people, and work out how they want to work. Even if they want to form a new (software) company, to make sure this situation will never happen again. Hello, who told you that he was fired from

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread clare johnstone
Michele and others you could try reading what Andy said here: fromAndy Green a...@openmoko.com hide details Mar 23 (17 hours ago) to Nicolas Dufresne nicolas.dufre...@gmail.com cc

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:44:06 +0100 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com said: I do not know who is responsible for this desicion but I hope they are not the same design team who had fired Rasterman. who said i was fired? i quit (hanged in my resignation) of my own volition. :) handed

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:04:30 +0100, clare johnstone clar...@gmail.com wrote: Michele and others you could try reading what Andy said here: fromAndy Green a...@openmoko.com hide details Mar 23 (17 hours ago) to Nicolas Dufresne

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:12:42 +0100 Alexey Feldgendler ale...@feldgendler.ru said: On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:04:30 +0100, clare johnstone clar...@gmail.com wrote: Michele and others you could try reading what Andy said here: fromAndy Green a...@openmoko.com hide

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes
I love these threads where we talk about company things, like the recent official buzz fix thread, or the secret UI design team IRC conversation, and there is NEVER any response from OpenMoko. I wonder if they see the community mailinglist as COMMUNITY ONLY, i.e. no employees allowed? :)

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread arne anka
I love these threads where we talk about company things, like the recent official buzz fix thread, or the secret UI design team IRC conversation, and there is NEVER any response from OpenMoko. I wonder if they see the community mailinglist as COMMUNITY ONLY, i.e. no employees allowed? :)

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 24. März 2009 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS: Who left? At the hardware side: Werner and Joerg I'm no longer busy for OM on a regular monthly plan. OM is free to contract me for particular tasks, but for now that doesn't seem to happen in the near future. cheers jOERG signature.asc

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Gothnet
to feel like the only hope for getting a decent phone out of the FR is the independent work going on around android. Actually, beginning is a lie. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Back-to-the-Basics-plan%3A-Andy-left-tp2524593p2528090.html Sent from the Openmoko Community

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Steve Mosher
Thanks Gunnar, There is one thing we tend to be very tight lipped about. HR issues. That is its very rare that you will find any employee commenting on why a particular individual is not with the company anymore. Some people are let go for performance. Some are let go due to cost cutting.

Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-23 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
Dear List, I can't express how sad I'm when I read Andy Green left Openmoko. I do not know why he left (and it is not my business anyway), but I know since Andy was at Openmoko the kernel side began to form shape, and got things work. (suspend? anyone?) I know that every people is replacable

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-23 Thread Mike Montour
Laszlo KREKACS wrote: I can't express how sad I'm when I read Andy Green left Openmoko. I do not know why he left (and it is not my business anyway), but I know since Andy was at Openmoko the kernel side began to form shape, and got things work. (suspend? anyone?) You should have stopped

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-23 Thread NeilBrown
On Tue, March 24, 2009 2:03 pm, Mike Montour wrote: Laszlo KREKACS wrote: I can't express how sad I'm when I read Andy Green left Openmoko. I do not know why he left (and it is not my business anyway), but I know since Andy was at Openmoko the kernel side began to form shape, and got things