and freeing the network
is.
So think about that.
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The problem with small
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 3:10 AM, Stefano Cavallari
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Then you just provide some module to access the chosen network, like a SDIO
card (probably with a big external part like most wifi ones).
I was thinking of a beast like a bluetooth UMTS dongle. There are already USB
On Monday 21 April 2008 08:54:15 Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 3:10 AM, Stefano Cavallari
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Then you just provide some module to access the chosen network, like a
SDIO card (probably with a big external part like most wifi ones).
I was thinking of
The problem with small handheld devices is that most of the time it's
cheaper to put everything into the device than to create variants.
Modularity causes problems with design and space and is also
expensive.
I also still need a GSM modem and will for a few years. Sure, I'd like
to use WLAN,
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The problem with small handheld devices is that most of the time it's
cheaper to put everything into the device than to create variants.
Modularity causes problems with design and space and is also
expensive.
I also still need a GSM modem and
(sorry for the length of this message)
I was thinking today about how the phone system is quite dead without no one
noticing it. We are paying unreasonable tariffs for just sending data which
happens to be voice. The whole motivation behind having a number is no longer
existent as with
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Stefano Cavallari
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(sorry for the length of this message)
I was thinking today about how the phone system is quite dead without no one
noticing it. We are paying unreasonable tariffs for just sending data which
happens to be voice.
I disagree with that GSM phone is dying. In Europe almost everyone over
12 has a GSM phone and use it every day. How can you state it is dying?
On the other hand noone knows what would happen to the Internet if all
those people would choose to use VOIP instead of PSTN (Public switched
telephone
On Sunday 20 April 2008 13:49:29 Schmidt AndrXs wrote:
I disagree with that GSM phone is dying. In Europe almost everyone over
12 has a GSM phone and use it every day. How can you state it is dying?
I said it is dying but few realizes it yet. Sooner or later people will want a
internet
Well, no matter whether it's dying out or not; while I tend to agree that it
actually is; I'm also sure it will still be ubiquitous for probably the
better part of another decade.
Plenty of time and market share available to manufacture and sell people the
best open GSM phones :)
:M:
On Sunday 20 April 2008 14:23:26 Stefano Cavallari wrote:
You can potentially use less bandwidth if you choose more intelligent
codecs. And yes I'm for paying actual bandwidth for mobile Internet.
The Internet doesn't mean necessarily broadband and flat prices.
And remember that IM is way
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 2:51 PM, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 20 April 2008 14:23:26 Stefano Cavallari wrote:
You can potentially use less bandwidth if you choose more intelligent
codecs. And yes I'm for paying actual bandwidth for mobile Internet.
The Internet
On Sunday 20 April 2008 15:14:58 ramsesoriginal wrote:
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 2:51 PM, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 20 April 2008 14:23:26 Stefano Cavallari wrote:
You can potentially use less bandwidth if you choose more intelligent
codecs. And yes I'm for paying
On Sunday 20 April 2008 15:14:58 ramsesoriginal wrote:
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I also would say that I don't know about Stefano, but i thought of
this as a modular system when I read this mail: If you feel the need
for gsm you put in the gsm module, if you think oyu need 4g you put in
that chip, and if you
I want to comment on the modularity thing.
PCMCIA is not even an option. If you look at the trend,
you will notice that more and more comes in SoC
(System on Chip). This is complete systems with
internal bus, etc. This is micro system technology.
I know that we will see more of those and they
On Sun April 20 2008 11:09:07 am Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
I want to comment on the modularity thing.
PCMCIA is not even an option. If you look at the trend,
you will notice that more and more comes in SoC
(System on Chip). This is complete systems with
internal bus, etc. This is
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