Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-08-13 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Marcus Bauer wrote: gpsd works well and gypsy is not network capable. Simply using your Neo's GPS from your Laptop does not work. And especially for an application like tangoGPS it is inherently broken: every nav-application wants to have the raw NMEA and not some preprocessed stuff and the

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-08-02 Thread Ken Restivo
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:38:07PM +0300, Mikko Rauhala wrote: ti, 2008-07-29 kello 20:53 +0200, Marcus Bauer kirjoitti: I'm a huge Openstreetmap fan but until OSM is ready for routing this will take at least five more years, probably ten. That's probably true _if you drive a car_ (though

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-08-02 Thread Tim Coggins
If you don't need a GPS that's great but I find them really useful. Yes, maps and a compasses are really useful but they are quite bulky and you need the right one. Thanks to the FreeRunner I've now got localised, street level maps for a large part of the work (OSM[0]) in my pocket. In addition to

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-08-02 Thread Mike Montour
Ken Restivo wrote: What is the point of having GPS anyway? One reason for GPS on a phone is to provide location information for Enhanced 911 emergency services. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-08-02 Thread Jay Vaughan
What is the point of having GPS anyway? Its nice, when you're navigating around an unfamiliar area, to be able to have a realtime update of where you are exactly. Its also fun to have a trace of your trip, if you're the kind of person who gets out a bit. Nice in the forests and among

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-31 Thread Yorick Moko
start-up solved: [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Navit TryExec=navit GenericName=Navit Comment=GPS Navigation Exec=navit Icon=diversity-nav Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=Network;GPS; StartupNotify=true SingleInstance=true solved it but the destination screen crashes On Thu, Jul

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-31 Thread Yorick Moko
my apologies for the spam, i didn't read the wiki good enough, the fix is there On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: start-up solved: [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Navit TryExec=navit GenericName=Navit Comment=GPS Navigation Exec=navit

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-30 Thread Jay Vaughan
planet.osm.bz2 is 4.2 gigs now, but that's why there are 8 gig microSD cards I guess. :-) Of course being unindexed XML you don't have time to parse and render that much data. Hmm .. that alongside mokopedia, and my 8gig card is *full* to the brim . Cool! :) Hey - maybe *this* is the

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-30 Thread Jay Vaughan
Nope. Can't compete against a TomTom or any other commercial Navi. But then there is no solution for the Neo: the screen is too small and the speaker too weak. Nevertheless it is quite often quite handy. I'm using it to navigate the streets of Vienna quite happily, Marcus .. it took me a

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-30 Thread Mikko Rauhala
ti, 2008-07-29 kello 20:53 +0200, Marcus Bauer kirjoitti: I'm a huge Openstreetmap fan but until OSM is ready for routing this will take at least five more years, probably ten. That's probably true _if you drive a car_ (though even for that it can be a handy help, especially in areas that

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-30 Thread Tilman Baumann
Marcus Bauer wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 16:47 +0200, Tilman Baumann wrote: Well, i like tangoGPS very much. But it is hardly a comprehensive solution. First it's only a tile viewer for online maps. No routing, no offline maps. I'm a huge Openstreetmap fan but until OSM is ready for

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-30 Thread Tilman Baumann
Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I hope you come up with good data for India. I always wanted to have a map of the entire world available in my pocket, so maybe we get closer and closer to that .. ;) planet.osm.bz2 is 4.2 gigs

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-30 Thread Tilman Baumann
Tilman Baumann wrote: But you are tight, they solve quite different problems. Navit is far better for orientation in cities or for cycling and walking. Sorry, this is probably a typo that needs to be declared explicitly. s/tight/right/ *g* -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-30 Thread arne anka
Navit works supprisingly well. Very well with 'stolen/misused' MapRoute maps. got wherefrom, ie what kind of maps work with it? But i have to say, the navit build for openmoko is in bad condition. (easy to fix) care to elaborate? ___ Openmoko

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-30 Thread Tilman Baumann
arne anka wrote: Navit works supprisingly well. Very well with 'stolen/misused' MapRoute maps. got wherefrom, ie what kind of maps work with it? http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Main_Page#Maps But i have to say, the navit build for openmoko is in bad condition. (easy to fix) care

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-29 Thread rakshat hooja
Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it. OM2007.2 is there, it works and I recommend everybody to develop for it. Best regards, Marcus Not to start a flame war but even I would like to know why Openmoko with

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-29 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 15:28:56 schrieb rakshat hooja: Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it. OM2007.2 is there, it works and I recommend everybody to develop for it. Best regards, Marcus Not to

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-29 Thread Tilman Baumann
rakshat hooja wrote: Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it. OM2007.2 is there, it works and I recommend everybody to develop for it. Best regards, Marcus Not to start a flame

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-29 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:46 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 15:28:56 schrieb rakshat hooja: Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it. Not to start a flame war but even I would

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-29 Thread rakshat hooja
Please see Daniel Willmann's announcement for more details. Cheers, -- :M: Thanks for the reply and my apologies if I mis-understood something/ got the facts wrong . I will wait for Daniel Willmann's announcement. @Marcus - My main job is to sell the Neo ( I work for a distributor) and

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-29 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 18:19:32 schrieb rakshat hooja: Please see Daniel Willmann's announcement for more details. Cheers, -- :M: Thanks for the reply and my apologies if I mis-understood something/ got the facts wrong . I will wait for Daniel Willmann's announcement. It has been

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-29 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 21:49 +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: @Marcus - My main job is to sell the Neo ( I work for a distributor) and tangoGPS is the application that impresses my clients (and me) the most (even though we hardly have OSM data for India!). I would love to see it continue to be

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-29 Thread Jay Vaughan
@Marcus - My main job is to sell the Neo ( I work for a distributor) and tangoGPS is the application that impresses my clients (and me) the most (even though we hardly have OSM data for India!). I would love to see it continue to be developed. (Offline maps is something that people

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-29 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I hope you come up with good data for India. I always wanted to have a map of the entire world available in my pocket, so maybe we get closer and closer to that .. ;) planet.osm.bz2 is 4.2 gigs now, but that's why there

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-29 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 16:47 +0200, Tilman Baumann wrote: Well, i like tangoGPS very much. But it is hardly a comprehensive solution. First it's only a tile viewer for online maps. No routing, no offline maps. I'm a huge Openstreetmap fan but until OSM is ready for routing this will take at