Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-25 Thread Katrin Tomanek
Hi, I am running the kernel from yesterday (uImage-2.6.24+git20080424-om-gta02.bin). Is the fix included in it or do I have to do anything else to get the software fix? Katrin -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/GPS-problems%2C-summary-tp532037p581965.html Sent from the

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-25 Thread Yorick Moko
it is included On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Katrin Tomanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am running the kernel from yesterday (uImage-2.6.24+git20080424-om-gta02.bin). Is the fix included in it or do I have to do anything else to get the software fix? Katrin -- View this message

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-25 Thread Alex Fitzpatrick
Yorick Moko wrote: it is included If this has not already happened, the getting started and GPS pages on the wiki should be updated to reflect this. -- Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-25 Thread Thomas B.
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:58:48PM -0700, Katrin Tomanek wrote: Hi, I am running the kernel from yesterday (uImage-2.6.24+git20080424-om-gta02.bin). Is the fix included in it or do I have to do anything else to get the software fix? Umm, 20080424 sounds more like April. I use [1], that one

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Justin Wong
Great post. Maybe you can put it on the wiki somewhere, so it's visible to more people. Cheers! Justin On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Alasal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A summary of everything related to the GPS problem. Does the people of Openmoko know the problem? - Yes. Do they work

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Konstantin
Marek Lindner schrieb: On Thursday, 17. July 2008 03:38:11 Alasal wrote: Does they have a solution? - yes. Their is already a highly alpha software workaround. The software just disables the SD card when the GPS tries to get it's first fix They are also examine a hardware solution. The

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Ken Restivo
Not the greatest bit of WIKI formatting, but it's there at least and linked from the GPS page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_GPS_Problems -ken -- On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:49:43PM -0700, Justin Wong wrote: Great post. Maybe you can put it on the wiki somewhere, so it's visible

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Ben Batt
/lurk Justin Wong wrote: Great post. Maybe you can put it on the wiki somewhere, so it's visible to more people. I thought I'd take the plunge. A wikified version of the summary is up at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Problems#Summary Ben ___

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Flyin_bbb8
I think the Freerunner has enough RAM to actually make that possible (ringtones and etc. may be stored in tmpfs) :) Maybe when just running the GPS application and there's no fix some of the important data from the SD can be put in the RAM (just in case a call comes or any other things like

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Kai Römer
Hi people, 2008/7/16 Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: With the help of AGPS you can shorten it probably to 15 seconds. I have heard this for about thousand times now. NO! Never got those values. TTFF with AGPS is about 38 secs without AGPS about 48 secs good condition. Tested with 6 OM in

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 17 July 2008, Kai Römer wrote: Hi people, 2008/7/16 Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: With the help of AGPS you can shorten it probably to 15 seconds. I have heard this for about thousand times now. NO! Never got those values. TTFF with AGPS is about 38 secs without AGPS about 48

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Russell Sears
I changed the part that says you can't read from SD when GPS is being turned on. The patch doesn't work that way. Instead, it turns off the SD clock when the SD card isn't being accessed, right? -Rusty Ben Batt wrote: /lurk Justin Wong wrote: Great post. Maybe you can put it on the

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Benedikt Schindler
Russell Sears schrieb: I changed the part that says you can't read from SD when GPS is being turned on. The patch doesn't work that way. Instead, it turns off the SD clock when the SD card isn't being accessed, right? that's right

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread Edward A. Falk
Maybe when just running the GPS application and there's no fix some of the important data from the SD can be put in the RAM (just in case a call comes or any other things like maps etc.) then when the fix is there the RAM can drop some of the unneeded stuff :) I don't know the internals of

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-17 Thread arne anka
I don't know the internals of the Linux memory card stack, but would it be possible to modify the kernel to turn the power off (or at least the as far as i understand, that is exactly what andy's current patch is doing (for the sole purpose of power saving) and what is considered as a

GPS problems, summary

2008-07-16 Thread Alasal
A summary of everything related to the GPS problem. Does the people of Openmoko know the problem? - Yes. Do they work on the problem? - Yes, they are actively searching for a solution. What is the problem? - The Openmoko Freerunner have a long TTFF with the SD card in the phone. So it takes

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-16 Thread Yorick Moko
no fault or wrong conclusion but I just want to add that Andy also made a patch to crank up the voltage a bit for the GPS unit On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Alasal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A summary of everything related to the GPS problem. Does the people of Openmoko know the problem? -

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-16 Thread Matt Manjos
Thank you for such an informative summary. Matt On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Alasal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A summary of everything related to the GPS problem. Does the people of Openmoko know the problem? - Yes. Do they work on the problem? - Yes, they are actively searching for a

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-16 Thread Kelvie Wong
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Alasal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A summary of everything related to the GPS problem. Does the people of Openmoko know the problem? - Yes. Do they work on the problem? - Yes, they are actively searching for a solution. What is the problem? - The

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-16 Thread Michele Renda
It can be well candidate for a FAQ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-16 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 21:38 +0200, Alasal wrote: What is the problem? - The Openmoko Freerunner have a long TTFF with the SD card in the phone. So it takes a long time (10min+) before you get your first GPS data. More specific: the GPS signal level drops by -20dBm, i.e. factor 100. Signal

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-16 Thread Yorick Moko
question: does the lower signal also effect accuracy? On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:56 PM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 21:38 +0200, Alasal wrote: What is the problem? - The Openmoko Freerunner have a long TTFF with the SD card in the phone. So it takes a long

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-16 Thread Christian Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 thanks for your summary .. and also a lot of thanks go to the OM-team for such fast response (and solution) and the patience with some annoying people on this lists .. Morlac Am 16.07.2008 um 21:38 schrieb Alasal: A summary of everything

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-16 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 23:00 +0200, Yorick Moko wrote: question: does the lower signal also effect accuracy? It is a good deal more jittery. However, if you drive around in a city you will get a lot more error from signal reflections than from the jitter. IMHO nothing to worry about.

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-16 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 16. Juli 2008 schrieb Yorick Moko: no fault or wrong conclusion but I just want to add that Andy also made a patch to crank up the voltage a bit for the GPS unit Yep, but this one didn't help at all it seems. One flaw in OP's summary: the recent andy-sd_clock-patch doesn't block

Re: GPS problems, summary

2008-07-16 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 2008-07-16, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mi 16. Juli 2008 schrieb Yorick Moko: no fault or wrong conclusion but I just want to add that Andy also made a patch to crank up the voltage a bit for the GPS unit Yep, but this one didn't help at all it seems. One flaw in