Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-28 Thread rakshat hooja
In open sky conditions in Jaipur, India (outdoors) the Freerunner normally gives me a 40s (+ - 10s) tiff while my N 95 takes 60s (+ - 10) [ cold starts after rebooting on both ]. I have not timed them indoors but will do so and report after Diwali Rakshat -- -- Please use Firefox

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-28 Thread Stefan Monnier
agps-onlinec -c full -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] -k Fvhcv -la 35.22 -lo -79.46 -al 250 -p 100.00 [...] provided the location data prefed to agps-onlinec and the current time (system clock) are accurate enough. (clock doesn't need to be second-precise, but if it's off several hours or more then

GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
The FR is the first device I use with a GPS, so I don't know what's considered as normal w.r.t GPS function. I find that my FR's GPS never works inside a building (e.g. at home), and even outside in the streets of Montreal, it seems to only be able to get a first fix if I'm in a somewhat open

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Alastair Johnson
Stefan Monnier wrote: The FR is the first device I use with a GPS, so I don't know what's considered as normal w.r.t GPS function. I find that my FR's GPS never works inside a building (e.g. at home), and even outside in the streets of Montreal, it seems to only be able to get a first fix if

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Nishit Dave
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Stefan Monnier wrote: The FR is the first device I use with a GPS, so I don't know what's considered as normal w.r.t GPS function. I find that my FR's GPS never works inside a building (e.g. at home), and even

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Iain B. Findleton
I find the FR more or less equivalent to other GPS devices I have. The biggest factor I notice is weather conditions. In overcast conditions I can use the GPS anywhere inside my house, as well as outside. Under clear sky conditions, the GPS will only work outside and will not acquire a first fix

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Stefan Fröbe
The FR still takes some minutes to get a fix when in a moving vehicle, and anywhere inside a building, it is as if it never worked. Nothing new Speaking from daily experience the FR is in no way less sensitive than any other GPSr I have used or was around with while geocaching, and that is

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:30:22 +0530 Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I recently tested the performance of a Nokia E71 with the FR, while standing 2 feet from a window inside my office building. [...] Um, does the Nokia E71 have assisted GPS (AGPS), as I rather suspect it does? If so,

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Leonti Bielski
My brother has Nokia N95 and it has about the same performance as my Neo. No fix inside, around 40 seconds fix outside. So it's not worse than others. Also I have good bluetooth gps, and it has problems getting fix in the city area or while moving, so you can't blame Neo for not getting fix - it's

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Stefan Strahl
Good evening Freerunners :) I can report a good GPS performance :) Two weeks ago I was testing tangogps on a hike. A friend was also tracking using his new Garmin. See http://www.student.uni-oldenburg.de/stefan.strahl/FreerunnerVSGarmin.jpg for a screenshot. Red is the Garmin track, blue the

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:09:34 +0100 Leonti Bielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My brother has Nokia N95 and it has about the same performance as my Neo. No fix inside, around 40 seconds fix outside. Again, I must ask. Is AGPS enabled on the Nokia N95? That needs to be specifically turned on, and a

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Johny Tenfinger
Again, I must ask. Is AGPS enabled on the Nokia N95? But when you want to compare N95 GPS with FreeRunner GPS, you must turn AGPS off in Nokia, or turn AGPS on in FreeRunner... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Monday 27 October 2008 20:43:43 Gora Mohanty wrote: Much as we all love OpenMoko, I find it hard to believe that a device with AGPS has comparable or worse performance than one without it. There are certainly many things about the N95 that suck, but I sincerely doubt that it has worse GPS

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Leonti Bielski
We are talking here about hardware GPS performance of Freerunner. So to compare two GPS devices they have to be in equal positions. If Neo Freerunner not using aGPS N95 shouldn't to for results to be comparable. I didn't think I needed to clarify this. So to answer you question - no, Nokia were

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:56:54 +0100 David Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I allways though Freerunner had AGPS. That's what wiki says: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware#AGPS Isn't it true? [...] Yes, I believe that it does have AGPS capabilities. But AGPS

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:50:01 +0100 Johny Tenfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I must ask. Is AGPS enabled on the Nokia N95? But when you want to compare N95 GPS with FreeRunner GPS, you must turn AGPS off in Nokia, or turn AGPS on in FreeRunner... [...] You are right. Sorry, I

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:04:55 +0100 Leonti Bielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are talking here about hardware GPS performance of Freerunner. So to compare two GPS devices they have to be in equal positions. [...] Yes, fair enough. You are right. Please see my earlier reply to Johny Tenfinger.

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Johny Tenfinger
So, given that both the Neo 1973, and the Freerunner apparently have AGPS capabilities, I think that what needs to be figured out is how to send out AGPS data from community servers. Anyone with any thoughts on this? Neo1973 doesn't have AGPS capability, but FreeRunner has, and some time ago

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread nick d.
Online mode: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS#Assist_Online I've signed up for an account but not sure if the scripts worked for me or not. Haven't tested it fully. Make sure you update the wiki if you have any success or more information. -Nick On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:24 AM,

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:36:36 +0530, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:56:54 +0100 David Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I allways though Freerunner had AGPS. That's what wiki says: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware#AGPS Isn't it

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Nishit Dave
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:30:22 +0530 Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I recently tested the performance of a Nokia E71 with the FR, while standing 2 feet from a window inside my office building. [...] Um,

Re: GPS sensitivity

2008-10-27 Thread Carl Lobo
GPS works very well here. I've used it in Maharashtra and Goa. On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:30:22 +0530 Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I