That's a good idea, but for the most part that approved stamp can be
fulfilled through the wiki. I'm sure there is already list of compatible
hardware / devices that work with the NEO. I suggest you add your iGo
charger to that list.
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL
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2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
1. We have a custom charger that can fast charge the phone
I'll add it at some point. The reason I haven't is because right now
the Fast Charge applet isn't part of the Openmoko stack. A default
image of Openmoko doesn't support this charger in fast mode (which is
the ONLY think I'm concerened about, frankly).
And... This might show my own biases, but I
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Robin Paulson wrote:
2008/4/14 Dirk Deimeke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I also would like to have - may be separately
community discussion
Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
Regarding a headset, how easy will it be to get a third party (wired,
non-bluetooth) headset with decent sound for the Freerunner?
I believe there was some discussion on the kernel list about impedances,
which made it sound
Well I apologize for killing the orange/white model. When I
get to place where I can figure what colors everyone wants and in what
ratios, then I can easily add colors. For now, folks are focused on the
innards and not the cosmetics.
In the days of Henry Ford, it made sense to say You can
The RapRep doesn't have the precision needed to build a Neo case, and
last I checked, didn't have varied enough base materials to make a
study, opaque, and APPEALING case. Put simply multi-colored cases
are purely a looks thing.
The CAD files are out there and someone who wanted to sell after
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Still, poor Freerunners... :'(
On 4/14/08, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One minute of silence for the dead freerunner, death to ensure a product
free of defects :)
2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The last of DVT
Thanks Lowell.
The phone will ship with a wall charger.
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Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 1:56 AM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
Hi,
I spoke to my wife (typical end user).
She expects a
- computer independent charger
- headset
- pouch
Best regards
Dirk
)
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:30 AM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
Ivo Anjo wrote:
Finally, the miniSD card, DEFINITELY leave it off, unless you get a
really really really good deal, because you can buy very high-capacity
nowadays, so
-
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Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 1:56 AM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
Hi,
I spoke to my wife (typical end user).
She expects a
- computer independent charger
- headset
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Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 1:56 AM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
Hi,
I spoke to my wife (typical end user).
She expects a
- computer independent charger
- headset
Haha. I remember that. I use chopsticks and squizzle sticks.
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Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
Robin Paulson wrote:
2008/4/14 Dirk Deimeke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I also would like to have - may be separately:
- Stylus
personally, i'd want:
*a modified charger (if one
Black is the new pink :)
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On Monday, Apr 14, 2008, steve writes:
Ok thanks dirk.
Frankly, some people thought the pouch sucked.
If I ship a pouch, you have no choice. you get my pouch.
My opinion: it's a phone sock.
Ideally I would love to have the community
develop this accessory if they want it.
Anyone have
USB cable will be in the goodies.
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Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
It is not necessary to modify
@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: PVT Update.
steve wrote:
1. A final release of software to the factory. Bug Fixing will go on after
this, but the image we commit is one we will stick with for a while.
Don't ask me what a while is. I'll talk about the software release
late Next week and let you
discussion
Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
I totally agree with you, Marco!
But I would like to add two important things:
-The Pouch is more important than needed for me, it's essential. It
will always be there, when I'm not using it, I also don't want a
no-name pouch, because I like
USB cable is in.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian
Billaudelle
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My opinion:
+ USB-cable is essentially! I
Billaudelle
*Sent:* Monday, April 14, 2008 8:41 AM
*To:* List for Openmoko community discussion
*Subject:* Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
My opinion:
+ USB-cable is essentially! I think the nice FreeRunner won't look nice
with a self-made cable...
+ pouch
+ lanyard
steve wrote:
USB cable is in.
Hello all,
Sorry to keep that up but I see three kind of potential cables and I'm
not sure which one you're talking about :
- First is male USB A = freerunner (USB mini AB, I believe) : it is
used for charging and using usb slave functions (usb mass
On 11/04/2008, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For these people we created a 10Pack. instead of 399 per phone, we will
charge 369 per phone.
Over the next few days I will explain the next steps we go through and how
the product will get distributed
Steve
Steve
as part of your info
:
FreeRunnerPricing and PVT update)
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 10:33 -0500, Bobby Martin wrote:
I lost the stylus (it's way too cool; if you forget it at a restaurant
or something, you don't get a call asking if you want it back :-)
They are $3 a piece w/ shipping included if you take ten.
For example
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ortwin Regel
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Subject: Re: PVT Update.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Still, poor Freerunners... :'(
On 4/14/08, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One minute
: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
How to develop such a phone sock?
OK, my mother is quite good at knitting, but... ;-)
I could post some design proposals...
cheers
Sebastian
P.S.: I asked my mother and some neighbours:
- charger
- pouch
- lanyard
nothing else...
Am Montag, den 14.04.2008
Of Michael Shiloh
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My daughter requests pink.
Maybe the only one.
I suggest we make them all white and include a pack of magic markers, so
you can color them any color you
Message-
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Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:55 AM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Re: PVT Update.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Still, poor Freerunners... :'(
On 4/14/08, Michele
| Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
|
| My daughter requests pink.
|
| Maybe the only one.
|
| I suggest we make them all white and include a pack of magic markers, so
| you can color them any color you wish, or decorate to your heart's
content.
|
| Half jokingly,
| Michael
|
| steve
Just trying to help. Not terribly useful at the engineering stuff any more
so trying to help how I can. :)
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:59 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Lowell.
The phone will ship with a wall charger.
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| Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
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| My daughter requests pink.
|
| Maybe the only one.
|
| I suggest we make them all white and include a pack of magic
markers, so
| you can color them any color you wish, or decorate to your heart's
content
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Sebastian Billaudelle wrote:
P.S.: I asked my mother and some neighbours:
- charger
- pouch
- lanyard
nothing else...
The pouch is very nice and closes securely with its drawstring.
Inside it I put a piece of vinyl floor tile; and face the Neo1973
screen to the tile, so
Great news that things are getting so finalized.
I have a question about the '10-pack'. I'm thinking about getting
together a group order for my local LUG. Suppose we have 11 people
interested? Is it more a 10-plus pack, or would that extra 1 phone have
to be ordered at full 399 price?
Manjos
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 1:43 PM
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Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:50 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2. Pricing
We scrubbed the BOM ( bill of materials). We eliminated the Luxurious
bits.
Optimized
2008/4/13, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to add some
other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers.
There won't be a charger in the standard box? And I thought there was
a custom charger allowing the Freerunner to charge
and no more stylus ?
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Erland Lewin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/4/13, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to add
some
other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers.
There won't be a
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 9:44 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to add some
other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers.
If the phone can be charged with a Motorola charger, I'm personally
fine with saving some
] On Behalf Of Michele Renda
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 2:37 PM
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Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
Hi Steve
Thank you for the update.
I think you (you all from openmoko) worked very well, and I am happy to know
these update.
According me
organized, get ready.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Burdette
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 9:03 AM
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Great news that things are getting so
: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
2008/4/13, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to
add some other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers.
There won't be a charger in the standard box? And I thought there was a
custom charger
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On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 9:44 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone
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and no more stylus ?
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Erland Lewin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/4/13, steve [EMAIL
community discussion
Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
2008/4/13, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to
add some other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers.
There won't be a charger in the standard box? And I
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:13:16 -0700
steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stylus is of course on the goodie list. Things I will give away to
the first few thousand buyers.
If you like the stylus approach, the one we have is great. I know its
great because at every trade show
when I leave it on
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Burdette
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Great news that things are getting so finalized.
I have a question about the '10-pack'. I'm thinking about getting
Lowell Higley ha scritto:
1) include the custom (closed) cable or at least make it an option
I do agree with this... Also if the cable is sold only by Openmoko it
should be there, since it's a so important thing for using the phone as
a standard phone (I not always have my PC around, and
steve ha scritto:
This is a very difficult issue. . Let me Nutshell it.
Imho, not so much!
1. We have a custom charger that can fast charge the phone.
2. Standard usb chargers will work just fine.
[CUT]
Some people philosophically believe we shouldn't do custom chargers.
So, I get to
steve ha scritto:
Many people have voiced there opinion to me about what EXTRAS they would
like in the box ( most of them legal) so, the team will make a decision.
We won't please everybody, but it will be a rational decision, based on
cost of the extra goodies, availability, and importance, and
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 4:13 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well,
My goal is to open the accessory business. Far too often companies take a
standard accessory product
And make minor changes that require the customer to go back to them for
replacements. So, we are pushing
of course it has all the goodies.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Le Roux
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 5:06 PM
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Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
Thank you Steve for precisions.
One more
But is the software going to depend on a stylus? If so, it should be
made very clear when purchasing that the customer will need to get one.
Even better would be to include a simple cheap one, it would be better
then nothing.
i think we should include a ten-pack of cocktail sticks plus a groovy
Ha,
Dont go encouraging me with wacky ideas I like.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JW
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But is the software going to depend
Hi,
let me know what you think. My inclination is Open accessories.
I agree to Open accessories.
Thinks I would like to see in the box:
- Charger
- USB-Cable
- Headset
I also would like to have - may be separately:
- Stylus
- Pouch
- MicroSD
Just my 0.02 cents.
Dirk
Steve, all,
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:01 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The last of DVT testing is I think complete. These are destructive tests.
:
So, short version: design is verified. Hardware is production worthy. Yeild
results are good.
Thanks for the update! I'm really looking
Thanks Steve for the update. I have my money all saved up and ready!
. . .Shawn
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Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 10:50:40 AM
Subject: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
I thought I would combine a couple posts today. First an update on PVT, or
production verification test. Phones are being
Hi Steve
Thank you for the update.
I think you (you all from openmoko) worked very well, and I am happy to
know these update.
According me was a good idea to remove some accessories to cut off the
price: a lot of person, can not to have too much money to buy for
something that still they
More thanks Steve!
I'm glad you guys slimmed down the original packaging, as anything above
~400 becomes very prohibitive (as a work in progress platform) for many
people.
Keep up the great work and thanks for the frequent updates!
-Kyle
* proud GTA01 hacker, GTA02 stalker ;-) *
On Sat, Apr
I thought I would combine a couple posts today. First an update on PVT, or
production verification test. Phones are being sent to me from the first PVT
run. Michael Shiloh will be back in Silicon valley next Tuesday, so he and I
will test the samples and get them out to key partners. I want to
: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
I thought I would combine a couple posts today. First an update on PVT,
or
production verification test. Phones are being sent to me from the first
PVT
run. Michael Shiloh will be back in Silicon valley next Tuesday, so he
and I
will test the samples and get them out
what about EUROS prices??
I hope that no 1:1 change will be applied...
thanks a lot for the news!!
Andrea
2008/4/11, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I thought I would combine a couple posts today. First an update on PVT,
or
production verification test. Phones are being sent to me from the
Excellent, thanks for the update!
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:50 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought I would combine a couple posts today. First an update on PVT, or
production verification test. Phones are being sent to me from the first PVT
run. Michael Shiloh will be back in
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Andrea Debortoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what about EUROS prices??
IF, and this is an IF, it works as it did with the GTA01, the USD
price is technically incorrect. When i paid, it charged my debit card
for $309 worth of Taiwan dollars. I would imagine that your
Thanks for the update, looking forward to having a neo of my own :)
Ivo
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Andrea Debortoli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
what about EUROS prices??
IF, and this is an IF, it works as it did with
this is the news we all have been waiting for:)
And it is a very nice price also.
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Thanks for the update, sounds good, but what about the UK? and Europe?
Many thanks,
james
On 11/04/2008, Ivo Anjo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the update, looking forward to having a neo of my own :)
Ivo
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On
Fantastic! Looking forward to it!
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:30 PM, James Olney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the update, sounds good, but what about the UK? and Europe?
Many thanks,
james
On 11/04/2008, Ivo Anjo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the update, looking forward
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:50 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2. Pricing
We scrubbed the BOM ( bill of materials). We eliminated the Luxurious bits.
Optimized the box like it was code. The first thing we got rid of
was the lunchbox. It was cool, but it was expensive and heavy.
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