William Kenworthy <bi...@iinet.net.au> writes: > On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 18:15 +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: >> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 03:47:04PM +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > ... >> >> Look at AUX led. Enable whichever loglevel for kernel you like. Boot a >> minimal kernel that will boot really fast. >> >> Not a bootloader problem. >> > > I probably have not been clear enough - if the bootloader exits (as it > was doing to me silently), you can go along blithely thinking that the > phone was booted and working but it wasn't so I missed an important > call.
No. Qi never (except when the battery is deeply discharged or on gta01 that lacks leds and vibrator) silently exits. > The problem is that Qi doesnt give ANY feedback to a user, its always a > worry - is it or isnt it booting? That's obviously not true. Read again about AUX led and vibrator feedback. > Granted that you can overide to force feedback No, the feedback provided by Qi is always present and always identical (unless you have a very discharged battery, in this case feedback is disabled). > but then why not use uboot which has proven reliable AND tells the > user that something is happening faster than Qi will boot when in > debug mode (so I presume from my memories of trying to test/time > this). I am not talking about kernel boot messages, but "something" > every 10-15 seconds to reassure the user. Qi takes about 2 seconds to boot the kernel. After that it can do _nothing_ "to reassure the user" because the control is transfered to the kernel. The same with u-boot. > I have used a number of cheap mobiles, a treo650. Thfamily have a range > of mobiles up to an N95. I have used quite a number of linux versions > over the years - none, absolutely none including windows tells the user > nothing like Qi does. That if nothing else should tell how wrong Qi's > operation is. You use Qi only for 2-3 seconds on boot. And it provides feedback during that time. Period. > syndrome. Again, I can only remember Andy saying he didnt like uboot, > hence Qi, and Qi was going to be so much faster ... If you like u-boot, go ahead, hack on u-boot. But don't think that someone else must do that for you. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community