Re: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases

2008-04-22 Thread Jay Vaughan
And then there also is a hardware solutions. A very generic one, available in any half-decent hardware store. I think they call 'm cutting pliers and will make sure those leds will never be turned on again... I've got DuctTape 1.0 running on mine, it fixes the LED issues. ; -- Jay

Re: 99

2008-04-22 Thread Jonathan Spooner
I was being sarcastic. The $399 moko will somehow end up nearer 399 euro for those over the pond. its the same with all electronic goods over here. Jon Spooner Michele Renda wrote: 1 $ = 0.70 euro + tva = 0.84 euro != 4 euro Jonathan Spooner wrote: Oh great so in Europe that will

Re: 99

2008-04-21 Thread Heikki Sørum
God evening to you a/All. I'd agree that some types of tip a programmer has some problems. It's been tried before and i think it failed miserably.(At least languishes in obscurity). But on the other hand, there might be a hidden gem inside the proposal. Google's Summer of Code has proven to work,

Re: 99

2008-04-21 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/4/21 Brandon Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This tip a programmer idea is very interesting. What does the community think about setting up a site where people can say We'll each donate x amount once y feature is integrated or something of the sort. This way, Openmoko can see what

Re: 99

2008-04-21 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
the problem with paying a bounty for these sort of things, is that progammers then end up competing against each other, so are less inclined to share their part-way results, thus potentially slowing down a solution to the problem this was shown quite clearly a couple of years back, with the

Re: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases

2008-04-21 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:05:20 +0200, Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's wonderful the focus of the community is now all about $399 vs $400 rather than availability of Freerunner in certain colors. That's the marvel of communities. All it takes is a good topic-starter. :-) and

Re: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases

2008-04-21 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Alexey Feldgendler wrote: and YES I agree, the remaining V5 vs V6 issues seem small (but we did get extra info and clarification, thanks Tony). BTW, there is a way to work around the v5 issue in software. Because the LED in an unmodified v5 shines 6 or so times as bright as it should (and

Re: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases

2008-04-21 Thread Andy Powell
On Monday 21 April 2008 10:04, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:05:20 +0200, Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip BTW, there is a way to work around the v5 issue in software. Because the LED in an unmodified v5 shines 6 or so times as bright as it should (and eats 6

Re: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases

2008-04-21 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:35:44 +0200, Andy Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, there is a way to work around the v5 issue in software. Because the LED in an unmodified v5 shines 6 or so times as bright as it should (and eats 6 times more power), the solution is to correct the brightness with

Re: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases

2008-04-21 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/21/08, Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:35:44 +0200, Andy Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, there is a way to work around the v5 issue in software. Because the LED in an unmodified v5 shines 6 or so times as bright as it should (and eats 6

Re: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases

2008-04-21 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:43:18 +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, there is a way to work around the v5 issue in software. Because the LED in an unmodified v5 shines 6 or so times as bright as it should (and eats 6 times more power), the solution is to correct the

Re: 99

2008-04-21 Thread Sander van Grieken
On Monday 21 April 2008 02:39:38 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: steve ha scritto: I'll gladly put the price back to $650 which was the first price we released. LOL... BTW for me you can also put the price at 398 for staying a little more far from 399... :P I vote for 398 too, but I'll

Re: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases

2008-04-21 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:51:52 +0200, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or just have it on for 1/6 the time or, if flashing, multiply the gap (off state) by 6. 1 second for v6 == 6 for v5 It's exactly what PWM is about. No. I do not think he was meaning PWM. I think I

Re: 99

2008-04-21 Thread Brandon Kruger
On Sun April 20 2008 8:29:01 pm Nick Guenther wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Brandon Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun April 20 2008 7:27:06 pm Kevin Dean wrote: I'm happy paying $399 for all ye who feel the need to pay $400 to make it even. :P Though, I'll hop on the even

Re: 99

2008-04-21 Thread ramsesoriginal
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Brandon Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun April 20 2008 8:29:01 pm Nick Guenther wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Brandon Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun April 20 2008 7:27:06 pm Kevin Dean wrote: I'm happy paying $399 for all ye

RE: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases

2008-04-21 Thread steve
Subject: Re: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:05:20 +0200, Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's wonderful the focus of the community is now all about $399 vs $400 rather than availability of Freerunner in certain colors. That's the marvel of communities

Re: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases

2008-04-21 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Monday 21 April 2008 17:45:06 steve wrote: I want a software switch that says unLEDed so I can turn blinking lights off on any app if I so choose. Agreed. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: 99

2008-04-21 Thread Kevin Dean
For the record, my tip a programmer thing was almost pure sarcasm. I find this discussion to be amusing by the level of absurdity in it. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 9:57 AM, ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so first, i also would like to see 400$ instead of 399$, because it's simply a

Re: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases

2008-04-21 Thread AVee
On Monday 21 April 2008 17:45, steve wrote: I want a software switch that says unLEDed so I can turn blinking lights off on any app if I so choose. And then there also is a hardware solutions. A very generic one, available in any half-decent hardware store. I think they call 'm cutting pliers

Re: 99

2008-04-21 Thread Jonathan Spooner
Oh great so in Europe that will equate to another 4 euros.. were you dropped on your head as a child? Jon Michele Renda wrote: I agree, I'd like to pay for Freerunner 400$ in place of 399$ I alway liked 0 finishing number more than 9 finishing number. I vote for 400$! It is a very

RE: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases

2008-04-21 Thread steve
genius -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Powell Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 3:36 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases On Monday 21 April 2008 10:04, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Mon

RE: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases

2008-04-21 Thread Tore Dalaker
community discussion Subject: Re: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:05:20 +0200, Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's wonderful the focus of the community is now all about $399 vs $400 rather than availability of Freerunner in certain colors. That's the marvel

Re: 99

2008-04-21 Thread Michele Renda
1 $ = 0.70 euro + tva = 0.84 euro != 4 euro Jonathan Spooner wrote: Oh great so in Europe that will equate to another 4 euros.. were you dropped on your head as a child? Jon Michele Renda wrote: I agree, I'd like to pay for Freerunner 400$ in place of 399$ I alway liked 0 finishing

Re: 99

2008-04-20 Thread Peter Kraker
I see those 2€ as some kind of twisted way of openmoko giving me a free beer ;) Alexey Feldgendler pravi: The prices for GTA02 and the debug board are $399 and $99, respectively. While there's nothing wrong with charging exactly 99 dollars for something, the practice of reducing a round

Re: 99

2008-04-20 Thread Ivo Anjo
Yeah, I think that would be an excellent idea! Stop with the -1 or -5 prices! Free your mind :) . And as an added bonus we pay you a little more. Ivo On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The prices for GTA02 and the debug board are $399 and $99,

Re: 99

2008-04-20 Thread Michael Shiloh
So with every n Neos you get a free beer? A weird frequent buyer program? Peter Kraker wrote: I see those 2€ as some kind of twisted way of openmoko giving me a free beer ;) Alexey Feldgendler pravi: The prices for GTA02 and the debug board are $399 and $99, respectively. While there's

Re: 99

2008-04-20 Thread Michele Renda
I agree, I'd like to pay for Freerunner 400$ in place of 399$ I alway liked 0 finishing number more than 9 finishing number. I vote for 400$! It is a very strange request, I admit :) Alexey Feldgendler wrote: The prices for GTA02 and the debug board are $399 and $99, respectively. While

Re: 99

2008-04-20 Thread Daniel Selinger
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:11:59 +0200 Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The prices for GTA02 and the debug board are $399 and $99, respectively. While there's nothing wrong with charging exactly 99 dollars for something, the practice of reducing a round price by one dollar, AKA

Re: 99

2008-04-20 Thread Kevin Dean
I'm happy paying $399 for all ye who feel the need to pay $400 to make it even. :P Though, I'll hop on the even bandwagon if it's dropped as long as Openmoko makes profit. :) If you really want to pay more, you could set up a Tip a Developer program... -Kevin On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 7:13 PM,

Re: 99

2008-04-20 Thread Nick Guenther
It's not about paying more, it's about transparency and setting a standard for others to follow. I vote for 400$ also. On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm happy paying $399 for all ye who feel the need to pay $400 to make it even. :P Though, I'll hop on the

RE: 99

2008-04-20 Thread steve
no free hops, barley, and yeast. make your own beer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shiloh Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 3:02 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: 99 So with every n Neos you get a free beer

Re: 99

2008-04-20 Thread Brandon Kruger
On Sun April 20 2008 7:27:06 pm Kevin Dean wrote: I'm happy paying $399 for all ye who feel the need to pay $400 to make it even. :P Though, I'll hop on the even bandwagon if it's dropped as long as Openmoko makes profit. :) If you really want to pay more, you could set up a Tip a Developer

Re: 99

2008-04-20 Thread Nick Guenther
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Brandon Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun April 20 2008 7:27:06 pm Kevin Dean wrote: I'm happy paying $399 for all ye who feel the need to pay $400 to make it even. :P Though, I'll hop on the even bandwagon if it's dropped as long as Openmoko makes

Re: 99

2008-04-20 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
steve ha scritto: I'll gladly put the price back to $650 which was the first price we released. LOL... BTW for me you can also put the price at 398 for staying a little more far from 399... :P -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/

Re: 99

2008-04-20 Thread Federico Lorenzi
Hmm, isn't the dollar price just an estimation? Cheers, Federico On 4/21/08, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: steve ha scritto: I'll gladly put the price back to $650 which was the first price we released. LOL... BTW for me you can also put the price at 398 for staying a