A long time ago I bougt a phone, a Motorola A835. He ad a led under a
joysick, but it was disabled. And it was also multicolor.
It was so disabled that I know about it only after one year playing with
a flesh software.
I didn't died with without the let.
May be that Motorola had the same
Dear Ron/Community:
This confusion comes from time latency of series of events, but no
matter A5 or A6 should all apply the LED transistor change.
I already update all the changes that shipping A5 will apply.
Subject: Re: Don't ship GTA02v5 without the rework - reply
Date: dom 20 apr 08 05:15:29 +0800
Quoting Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
This confusion comes from time latency of series of events, but no
matter A5 or A6 should all apply the LED transistor change
I this mail is great. I totally agree!
Sure, as Marco said, if no phone is still produced, and the change is
minimal, then it would be better to start proucing right away with he
improved versions.But I think most people can live with a brighter
led, even if that means some battery life less.
On
Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) ha scritto:
This confusion comes from time latency of series of events, but no
matter A5 or A6 should all apply the LED transistor change.
I already update all the changes that shipping A5 will apply.
Thank you Tony for the update !
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) ha scritto:
This confusion comes from time latency of series of events, but no
matter A5 or A6 should all apply the LED transistor change.
I already
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Subject: Re: Don't ship GTA02v5 without the rework
Yup. And if we've all been patiently waiting for *quite* a while
ian douglas ha scritto:
I agree.
If the LED's are used by the software to show various states in the
software, then why can't we just use software to turn them off when we
don't want them on?
Problem solved, without any hardware hacks needed.
That's the beauty of open source. Find where
2008/4/19, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I have to say, I'm baffled by that sentiment. GTA02v5 is fully
functional, the only problem is that it's not as efficient as it
could be, just like every other product on the planet.
For those saying wait another month I've got a different arguement -
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OpenMoko team:
It's crazy to consider shipping the GTA02v5 without the rework
to solve the current leakage issue.
Yes, people are REALLY anxious to get this phone. But shipping
a few thousand of units that do not meet
I kinda agree... I'm looking forward to my freerunner, but I want to buy it
knowing that the hardware is ok, and that the software will have a few bumps
as always, but if it doesn't work today, it will be fixed sometime in the
future.
I want to play around and develop for the freerunner, but I
On Saturday 19 April 2008 03:38, Steven Le Roux wrote:
I totally agree with you.
I understand everybody is happy to see the neo coming, but don't forget the
goal :) : to provides the best free phones.
It wouldn't be pleasant for us to by a phone, knowing there is a known
issue with
Andrea Debortoli wrote:
2008/4/19, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is quite possible to make your statement by NOT purchasing a v5
unit and waiting for a v6. Choosing to wait yourself, without passing
the delay and costs onto everyone else is the most ethical, polite way
to solve the problem.
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) ha scritto:
I agree... There's also another issue to consider: in the marketing
threads it was said that the first thousands phones will have more
goods in their box, so this makes me think that only people buying a v5
will get these things.
My personal position is
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:20:15PM +0200, Marc-Olivier Barre wrote:
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OpenMoko team:
It's crazy to consider shipping the GTA02v5 without the rework
to solve the current leakage issue.
Yes, people are REALLY
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:20:15PM +0200, Marc-Olivier Barre wrote:
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OpenMoko team:
It's crazy to consider shipping the GTA02v5 without the rework
to solve the current leakage issue.
Yes, people are REALLY
for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Re: Don't ship GTA02v5 without the rework
I agree.
If the LED's are used by the software to show various states in the
software, then why can't we just use software to turn them off when we don't
want them on?
Problem solved, without any hardware hacks
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:53 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ian
Personally I'd vote LEDS off the island. But since we are open source
people can write apps to turn on every feature of the phone in any way they
want and drain the battery in any way they want. I will ask the
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Fahrstuhl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heya,
the wiki-page about the Freerunner hardware states that issue would be
resolved in the GTA02v5 mass production phones. [1]
A6 will be fine tune version of A5, only minor schematic change for
better product
pe, 2008-04-18 kello 21:57 -0400, Kevin Dean kirjoitti:
I have to say, I'm baffled by that sentiment. GTA02v5 is fully
functional, the only problem is that it's not as efficient as it
could be, just like every other product on the planet.
Hear hear. For fuck's sake, people. Boohoo, there's
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Subject: Re: Don't ship GTA02v5 without the rework
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:53 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ian
Personally I'd vote LEDS off the island. But since we are open
source people can write apps to turn on every feature
, 2008 4:37 PM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: Don't ship GTA02v5 without the rework
pe, 2008-04-18 kello 21:57 -0400, Kevin Dean kirjoitti:
I have to say, I'm baffled by that sentiment. GTA02v5 is fully
functional, the only problem is that it's not as efficient as it
could be, just
Mikko Rauhala wrote:
And the point was? Yeah, the point. There was one here somewhere, let me
look for it. Oh yeah. Here it is:
Nothing. Will. Ever. Be. Perfect.
I know this and I never asked for a perfect device, I do really know
that this LED(s) issue is just a minor problem, but I
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Fahrstuhl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heya,
the wiki-page about the Freerunner hardware states that issue would be
resolved in the GTA02v5 mass production phones. [1]
A6 will be fine tune version of A5, only minor
Hi,
Nothing. Will. Ever. Be. Perfect.
thanks for your statement. It is really appreciated.
The same is for software.
Dirk
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I totally agree with you.
I understand everybody is happy to see the neo coming, but don't forget the
goal :) : to provides the best free phones.
It wouldn't be pleasant for us to by a phone, knowing there is a known issue
with optimisation of power consumption and LED stuff..
I understand the
I have to say, I'm baffled by that sentiment. GTA02v5 is fully
functional, the only problem is that it's not as efficient as it
could be, just like every other product on the planet.
For those saying wait another month I've got a different arguement -
let's NOT hire people to make the changes,
Wow, oh no. That means if I use the LEDs (assuming the use 3v or so) I
will use 50ma. How long exactly do you plan on keeping your LEDs on
for? Quite frankly I _don't_ care about this, and neither do most
people, because the LEDs aren't exactly a deal breaking feature.
Cheers,
Federico
On Sat,
I agree.
If the LED's are used by the software to show various states in the
software, then why can't we just use software to turn them off when we
don't want them on?
Problem solved, without any hardware hacks needed.
That's the beauty of open source. Find where the lights are controlled,
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