Re: Solar backpack (Solar charger)

2009-06-02 Thread Al Johnson
You might like to check this comparison of dynamo efficiency [1]. The Shimano has as much drag with the lights off as on! It's missing the BM [2] models though, which is a pity as they do a 12V 6W bottle model with a claimed efficiency of 70%, beating even the Schmidt. The LightSPIN had a

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-31 Thread clare johnstone
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Peter Harrison cheetah...@gmail.com wrote: I thought I would provide some of my experience with using solar power. My experience involves using a 12v panel. You can get 12v Hi folks, Another source for our part of the world is jaycar.com.auyou can select

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-30 Thread Peter Harrison
I thought I would provide some of my experience with using solar power. My experience involves using a 12v panel. You can get 12v panels from all kinds of places. In order to step down 12v to the required 5v you will need an efficient dc converter: http://us.100y.com.tw/PNoInfo/21207.htm Do NOT

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-29 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
, 2009-05-05 at 23:33 +0100, George Brooke wrote: On Tuesday 05 May 2009 13:19:53 Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/5/5 Christian Gagneraud cgagner...@techworks.ie: Yeah, why not! :) I never went to the deep jungle, but i like to make trips in the wild, with just my bike and my tent, and the solar

Re: Solar backpack (Solar charger)

2009-05-23 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/5/21 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk If you want something effective for emergencies or extended periods away from power a mechanical device is probably more effective. For cycling a good dynamo will provide more, and more reliable, power than any bike-mounted solar panel.

Re: Solar backpack (Solar charger)

2009-05-23 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
look at http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/lighting/shimano.html but remember you will have to have a good voltage regulator or better a battery charger able to charge itself and the neo at time, in the middle, to avoid the current variance of the dinamo 2009/5/23 Michal Brzozowski

Re: Solar backpack (Solar charger)

2009-05-23 Thread Michal Brzozowski
Ok, I wasn't specific enough. What I'm looking for is exactly that thing in the middle :-) that will output the 500mA or 1A through a USB. Is a bike dynamo powerful enough to provide the 500mA or 1A to charge the Freerunner? 2009/5/23 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com look at

Re: Solar backpack (Solar charger)

2009-05-23 Thread Jakob
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Ok, I wasn't specific enough. What I'm looking for is exactly that thing in the middle :-) that will output the 500mA or 1A through a USB. Is a bike dynamo powerful enough to provide the 500mA or 1A to charge the

Re: Solar backpack (Solar charger)

2009-05-23 Thread Jakob
A normal bike dynamo has 6V and 3W so that would be 2A of current. I think that should be plenty even with the losses through conversion to 5V DC. (Depends of course how fast you are going with your bike ;)) jake oh my i'm totaly telling crap her :D it must be 0.5 A.

Re: Solar backpack (Solar charger)

2009-05-23 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
in australia there is a company called www.pedalpower.com that has the full solution, I trying to reach them but with any luck I will try again tomorrow morning. but in parelell I trying to make my own solution, just a aux batery able to recharge while charging providing 500mA will do the trick,

Re: Solar backpack (Solar charger)

2009-05-23 Thread Michal Brzozowski
I'm starting to think that taking 2-3 additional FR batteries for a bike trip or hike is an easier solution :-) 2009/5/23 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com in australia there is a company called www.pedalpower.com that has the full solution, I trying to reach them but with any

Re: Solar backpack (Solar charger)

2009-05-23 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
yes :) easier but less cool than have all your bike wired like a ciborg XD 2009/5/23 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: I'm starting to think that taking 2-3 additional FR batteries for a bike trip or hike is an easier solution :-) 2009/5/23 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com

Re: Solar charger samples arrived[was Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)]

2009-05-21 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
is getting quite long), so that people can manifest their interest and propose some tests to be carried on the solar charger you have selected. snip Hi all, No much time to  comment right now more comments later but at you disposal there is a wiki page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki

Solar backpack (Solar charger)

2009-05-21 Thread Daniel.Li
situation when there is no electricity outdoors.This product is easy to operate ,safe to use ,convenient to take and fashionable. Solar backpack is an ideal product for living and traveling. It's much more convenient than solar charger, as I don't wanna hold solar charge when I'm biking or mountain

Re: Solar backpack (Solar charger)

2009-05-21 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
there is no electricity outdoors.This product is easy to operate ,safe to use ,convenient to take and fashionable. Solar backpack is an ideal product for living and traveling. It's much more convenient than solar charger, as I don't wanna hold solar charge when I'm biking or mountain climbing :) What

Re: Solar backpack (Solar charger)

2009-05-21 Thread Al Johnson
convenient than solar charger, as I don't wanna hold solar charge when I'm biking or mountain climbing :) What do u think? Any idea or comment on this? http://jdhysm.cn.alibaba.com/athena/offerdetail/sale/jdhysm-1037354-1609592 15.html ___ Openmoko

Re: Solar backpack (Solar charger)

2009-05-21 Thread Daniel.Li
. Well, I think it's much more useful than solar charger than you tested. It's really not that convenient when I'm out (biking, mountain climbing). If I carry SC018,SC019,SC20, just waste a lot of time for charging the internal battery. Apparently, I like keep my hands on bike or keep my hands off

Solar charger samples arrived[was Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)]

2009-05-12 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
snip More seriously, what about making an announce email in a new thread (this thread of discussion is getting quite long), so that people can manifest their interest and propose some tests to be carried on the solar charger you have selected. snip Hi all, No much time to comment right now

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-05 Thread vale
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Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-05 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
/search.external%20battery You have to put freerunner to force fast charge with 500mA to load ... Greetings vale -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Solar-charger-%28was-Re%3A-News-Openmoko-Shop-Pulster%29-tp2708769p2791397.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-05 Thread Christian Gagneraud
charger is the only solution to keep my GPS up and running for several days/weeks. More seriously, what about making an announce email in a new thread (this thread of discussion is getting quite long), so that people can manifest their interest and propose some tests to be carried on the solar

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-05 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/5/5 Christian Gagneraud cgagner...@techworks.ie: Yeah, why not! :) I never went to the deep jungle, but i like to make trips in the wild, with just my bike and my tent, and the solar charger is the only solution to keep my GPS up and running for several days/weeks. or a hand-crank

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-05 Thread Daniel.Li
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 16:35 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: latest news from factory. YL-S01: 26.47 USD 2400mAh/3.7V YL-S02: 20.59 USD 1800mAh/3.7V YL-S03: 10.00 USD 1350mAH/3.7V Hi Daniel, I use to use this kind of solar charger (a YB-E5008) during my last holidays (3 weeks

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-05 Thread Daniel.Li
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 01:03 +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: You can suggest what test do you like to be performed and I will publish the results on that wiki. Excellent! A link is appreciated here. Thanks So the due the other YL series doesn't has more than 2400mAh They have

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-05 Thread Christian Gagneraud
Daniel.Li wrote: On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 16:35 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: latest news from factory. YL-S01: 26.47 USD 2400mAh/3.7V YL-S02: 20.59 USD 1800mAh/3.7V YL-S03: 10.00 USD 1350mAH/3.7V Hi Daniel, I use to use this kind of solar charger (a YB-E5008) during my last holidays

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-05 Thread matthias
(Very very very)³ * (very+infinity) nice thing!!! :D That was what I was hoping for: committed merchants in touch with the community! I hope you will provide some of them for sale soon. cheers Matthias David Reyes Samblas Martinez schrieb: Christoph and I were talking about this and agree with

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-05 Thread George Brooke
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 13:19:53 Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/5/5 Christian Gagneraud cgagner...@techworks.ie: Yeah, why not! :) I never went to the deep jungle, but i like to make trips in the wild, with just my bike and my tent, and the solar charger is the only solution to keep my GPS up

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-05 Thread Daniel.Li
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 18:13 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: As well, i would advice to use a charger which has at least 2 times the capacity of your phone (FR has a 3.7V/1200mAh battery). On the 3 chargers you propose here, and the 3 chargers i've proposed earlier, i would be only

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-05 Thread Daniel.Li
, and the solar charger is the only solution to keep my GPS up and running for several days/weeks. or a hand-crank charger imo, this is a more reliable way of charging the battery - it'll work anywhere (in a building, underground, when it's raining), anytime (night) and is going to produce

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-04 Thread Paul
matthias wrote: The SC019 seems the best choice to me: Rugged metal casing sounds really great. But the Sc021 is good as well, if getting them depends on a group-order. I could live with the SC019 as well. I hope someone's keeping a scorelist. :-) Paul Adrian Matter schrieb:

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-04 Thread Daniel.Li
On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 08:42 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: :) Humm... I think I'd better let them to make a bid for small quantity. :D YL-S03 High solar energy convert efficiency: over than 16% Solar energy board: 5.5V/80mA Dimension: 95×43×11.5mm High capacity build in battery: 1350mAH/3.7V \

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-04 Thread Daniel.Li
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 20:32 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 08:42 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: :) Humm... I think I'd better let them to make a bid for small quantity. :D Sorry, I slipped. latest news from factory. YL-S01: 26.47 USD YL-S02: 20.59 USD YL-S03: 10.00 USD YL-S01

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-04 Thread Christian Gagneraud
-S03: 10.00 USD Hi Daniel, I use to use this kind of solar charger (a YB-E5008) during my last holidays (3 weeks in Iceland, by bike), and i can tell you that they are not suitable for smartphone. I couldn't keep my Nokia N95/8GB charged. When they say that you can charge your solar charger

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-04 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
this kind of solar charger (a YB-E5008) during my last holidays (3 weeks in Iceland, by bike), and i can tell you that they are not suitable for smartphone. I couldn't keep my Nokia N95/8GB charged. When they say that you can charge your solar charger with sun light in 8/12H, it means actually 8

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-03 Thread Christian Gagneraud
Konstantin wrote: matthias schrieb: If they really need a small quantity, maybe 10. How can I do with the rest of solar chargers, sell them??? :( I'd really like to buy one! Wouldn't it be great? An open handy powered with free and open energy!!! Damn, I'd like to buy 2 or 3! Same for me,

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-03 Thread Christian Gagneraud
Christian Gagneraud wrote: Konstantin wrote: matthias schrieb: If they really need a small quantity, maybe 10. How can I do with the rest of solar chargers, sell them??? :( I'd really like to buy one! Wouldn't it be great? An open handy powered with free and open energy!!! Damn, I'd like

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-03 Thread jeremy jozwik
those are pritty awesome On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Christian Gagneraud cgagner...@techworks.ie wrote: Christian Gagneraud wrote: Konstantin wrote: matthias schrieb: If they really need a small quantity, maybe 10. How can I do with the rest of solar chargers, sell them??? :( I'd really

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-03 Thread Adrian Matter
Hello, I'm interested as well in anThe SC021. Adrian Paul schrieb: jeremy jozwik wrote: those are pritty awesome Definitely! I wonder what one of those would cost including shipping to the Netherlands. The SC021 looks like a sweet deal. Paul

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-03 Thread matthias
The SC019 seems the best choice to me: Rugged metal casing sounds really great. But the Sc021 is good as well, if getting them depends on a group-order. Matthias Adrian Matter schrieb: Hello, I'm interested as well in anThe SC021. Adrian Paul schrieb: jeremy jozwik wrote:

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-03 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:39 PM, matthias matthiasfels...@web.de wrote: The SC019 seems the best choice to me: Rugged metal casing sounds really great. And magnetic case closing. Pretty sweet. Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-02 Thread matthias
If they really need a small quantity, maybe 10. How can I do with the rest of solar chargers, sell them??? :( I'd really like to buy one! Wouldn't it be great? An open handy powered with free and open energy!!! Damn, I'd like to buy 2 or 3! Please, get them! I'm surely not the only one who

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-05-02 Thread Konstantin
matthias schrieb: If they really need a small quantity, maybe 10. How can I do with the rest of solar chargers, sell them??? :( I'd really like to buy one! Wouldn't it be great? An open handy powered with free and open energy!!! Damn, I'd like to buy 2 or 3! Please, get them! I'm surely

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-04-30 Thread Daniel.Li
to your shop: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/205706002/Fashionable_solar_charger.html This is a solar charger with internal 2800mAh battery that can output up to 1A. So it can be used to power *AND* charge a Freerunner. Didn't find any retail reseller for this exact model... Chris

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-04-30 Thread Erwan de FERRIERES
Daniel.Li a écrit : On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 17:00 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: In China, good. I'm looking for this for quite a time :) Thanks. If you find a place where to buy this product, please notify the mailing list, other people could be interested (hum.. like

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-04-30 Thread Daniel.Li
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 14:58 +0200, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote: Daniel.Li a écrit : On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 17:00 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: In China, good. I'm looking for this for quite a time :) Thanks. If you find a place where to buy this product, please

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-04-30 Thread Christian Gagneraud
Daniel.Li wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 14:58 +0200, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote: Daniel.Li a écrit : On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 17:00 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: In China, good. I'm looking for this for quite a time :) Thanks. If you find a place where to buy this product,

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-04-30 Thread Daniel.Li
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 15:37 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 14:58 +0200, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote: Daniel.Li a écrit : On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 17:00 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: In China, good. I'm looking for this for

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-04-30 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
I have send a email to www.pedalpower.com.au, to know their conditions on their products. They also have solar chargers, I will keep you informed if there is any news 2009/4/30 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 15:37 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Daniel.Li wrote: On Thu,

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-04-30 Thread Daniel.Li
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 17:06 +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: I have send a email to www.pedalpower.com.au, to know their conditions on their products. They also have solar chargers, I will keep you informed if there is any news Humm... really good news. Thanks David :) I'll also

Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-04-25 Thread Christian Gagneraud
Hi Christoph, What about adding this product to your shop: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/205706002/Fashionable_solar_charger.html This is a solar charger with internal 2800mAh battery that can output up to 1A. So it can be used to power *AND* charge a Freerunner. Didn't find any retail

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-04-25 Thread Daniel.Li
In China, good. I'm looking for this for quite a time :) Thanks. On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:49 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Hi Christoph, What about adding this product to your shop: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/205706002/Fashionable_solar_charger.html This is a solar charger

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-04-25 Thread Christian Gagneraud
wrote: Hi Christoph, What about adding this product to your shop: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/205706002/Fashionable_solar_charger.html This is a solar charger with internal 2800mAh battery that can output up to 1A. So it can be used to power *AND* charge a Freerunner. Didn't find any

Re: Solar charger (was Re: News Openmoko Shop Pulster)

2009-04-25 Thread Daniel.Li
://topbandbattery.en.alibaba.com/ Chris On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:49 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Hi Christoph, What about adding this product to your shop: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/205706002/Fashionable_solar_charger.html This is a solar charger with internal 2800mAh

Re: Solar charger

2009-03-30 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If Neo charged in suspend you would be right. But Neo does not charge in suspend. Greetungs Bastian Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: Thomas Gstädtner tho...@gstaedtner.net writes: According to the data-sheet it maxes out at 100 mA, not enough to

Re: Solar charger

2009-03-30 Thread kimaidou
Oh..did not know this... And why ? It is a real shame, no ? 2009/3/30 Bastian Muck bastian.m...@gmx.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If Neo charged in suspend you would be right. But Neo does not charge in suspend. Greetungs Bastian

Re: Solar charger

2009-03-30 Thread George Brooke
On Monday 30 March 2009 19:45:19 kimaidou wrote: Oh..did not know this... And why ? It is a real shame, no ? 2009/3/30 Bastian Muck bastian.m...@gmx.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If Neo charged in suspend you would be right. But Neo does not charge in suspend.

Re: Solar charger

2009-03-30 Thread Jakob
On 3/30/09, George Brooke solar.geo...@googlemail.com wrote: On Monday 30 March 2009 19:45:19 kimaidou wrote: Oh..did not know this... And why ? It is a real shame, no ? 2009/3/30 Bastian Muck bastian.m...@gmx.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If Neo

Solar charger

2009-03-15 Thread Giovanni
Yesterday I bought this small portable solar charger: http://www.powersafer.net/it-it/prodotti/sc-10.html I found it in OBI (italian store) for 29.9 euro. It should be available also at Bennet and Conad, in Italy. It should work with the Freerunner. I hope so

Re: Solar charger

2009-03-15 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Giovanni pino.o...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday I bought this small portable solar charger: http://www.powersafer.net/it-it/prodotti/sc-10.html I found it in OBI (italian store) for 29.9 euro. It should be available also at Bennet and Conad, in Italy

Re: Solar charger

2009-03-15 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Thomas Gstädtner tho...@gstaedtner.net writes: According to the data-sheet it maxes out at 100 mA, not enough to keep the Neo running, and definitely not enough to charge it. But neo only uses about 15-30 mA on suspend so you should be able to charge neo while it is in suspend.