Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-20 Thread Steve Mosher
X gesture would be cool. Stroller wrote: Great! Thanks for the info. This seems to give applications devs lots of potential. Any chance of you adding shakes to the gestures? This would be ideal for the ball bearings in a tin can style of unread email message-count. I was about

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-12 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Ok, I understand now. They can be made like you just said, only that I need to recalibrate the whole thing, so that more states are created per cycle. I'll try in a future release. Right now I'm concentrating on the UI, and writing docs on the Wiki. Thanks, Paul On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:46 PM,

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-12 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Hmm.. Don't know what to say here. Are you using the 2008.8? Older versions of rootfs used to make one accelerometer work, and the other do not; but I never encountered BOTH of the accelerometers not working... Paul On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-12 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Ok, I'll take that into consideration. Right now, I'm discussing with John Lee on how to integrate gestures into the framework, so we could definitely add such a behavior. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Great! Thanks for the info. This seems to give

Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Hi, As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video showing what you should expect out of the accelerometer-based gestures project: http://digg.com/gadgets/Openmoko_Neo_Freerunner_Motion_Gestures_Screen_Orientation_2 There still are some things that need to be worked on for

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Flyin_bbb8
GREAT JOB!!! very well done... keep up the great work Paul!! +1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Ross Woodruff
Dont have my freerunner yet but that really is a great bit of work, keep it up, can see this being really useful, only criticism some of the gestures seems to be a little, well, over the top, I mean, if I was on the bus and I started doing the Z shape for example people would think what I was

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Martin Šenkeřík
I suggest more discreet gestures, like was the shaking one. I understand it is harder to recognize them and not to recognize them by accident in normal use. But what about starting recognizing only with pressed AUX button? You can replace actual function of locking screen by much more where one of

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
Wow, that is great!!! How fine grained is the resolution of the movements? I mean how detailed you could draw a shape on the screen from the figure you painted in the air? Or even better. Do you think it would be possible to do something like palms grafiti without knocking your neighbor out? :)

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Joseph Reeves
Looks great! I've basically got the same questions as Norbert does. Plus I'd like to know how I can get me screen to auto-rotate ;-) Joseph 2008/8/11 Norbert Hartl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wow, that is great!!! How fine grained is the resolution of the movements? I mean how detailed you could

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
Hm. Didn't work when I tried your gesd-neo.sh script. No output. So, I tried the accelerometer test script here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval Still no output. Is there something I have to do to turn the accelerometers on? On Monday 11 August 2008 03:35:39

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 Aug 2008, at 08:35, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: ... There still are some things that need to be worked on for the GUI, but I will release another package on Thursday/Friday with everything you've just seen in the YouTube video. Hi there, I'm slightly disappointed that the shaking

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
On Monday 11 August 2008 11:00:50 Stroller wrote: On 11 Aug 2008, at 08:35, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: ... There still are some things that need to be worked on for the GUI, but I will release another package on Thursday/Friday with everything you've just seen in the YouTube video.

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 Aug 2008, at 16:12, Daniel Benoy wrote: ... I'm slightly disappointed that the shaking inbox wouldn't be accommodated by the gestures you've made available. http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2007/11/shoogle_gives_your_cellphone_b.html This use is even mentioned on the wiki page you link to

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Dale Maggee
Cool! Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: Hi, As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video showing what you should expect out of the accelerometer-based gestures project: http://digg.com/gadgets/Openmoko_Neo_Freerunner_Motion_Gestures_Screen_Orientation_2 There still are some

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
Sure does :) It will be important to maintain the ability to turn off default gesture handling, if the user wants to install some other handler. Although, the 'shaking inbox' thing described by the earlier poster would probably not conflict with gestures. Someone correct me if I'm wrong about

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Willmann
Hey, On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:35:39 +0200 Paul-Valentin Borza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video showing what you should expect out of the accelerometer-based gestures project:

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
Ticket created. https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1808 On Monday 11 August 2008 10:50:11 Daniel Benoy wrote: Hm. Didn't work when I tried your gesd-neo.sh script. No output. So, I tried the accelerometer test script here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Gestures don't work like this, I don't know the shape of the gesture. For each gesture, I have a model that I previously created. Each model competes to be recognized, and every time you make a move, the model with the highest probability is chosen. You can know the shape of the gesture only if

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Those were some gestures that I thought were useful to use - due to lack of imagination for short gestures. If anyone can think to some short gestures, please tell me how these short gestures should look like, and I'll create them. We're not constraint to use those gestures, not at all. Paul On

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Begin on AUX button can be implemented easily. The problem is that the framework on the Neo is really not there yet, because I would have liked it to associate some gestures with actual actions on the Neo. But I'll be working with John Lee, and Daniel to do that in the future. Also, the release

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Please wait till Thursday/Friday when I'll release the package with what you saw in the video :) The alpha release that is now for download is obsolete, as it's one month old. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Looks great! I've basically got the same

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Yes, you'll be able to record, and train your own gestures; by running the Gestures app with the GUI. Of course, you get more flexibility in command line, that's how I do it, but you'll be able to do the same things in GUI mode. Gestures already use DBUS, system bus on org.openmoko.accelges (as

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Your probably using an older version, since what you just saw in the video is not released yet :) I will release a package this week. try hexdump /dev/input/event2 and hexdump /dev/input/event3 and restart your Neo :) Paul On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
The fact that is currently undocumented is all my fault. Sorry for that - I'll catch up this weekend. Till then, I have to work on the release. Yes, there are 2 daemons, one that processes the gestures and sends signals on dbus, and a listener daemon that listens for gestures and runs the actions

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
The listener daemon doesn't start up automatically, only the one that recognizes gestures. For on, it just sends the recognized gesture, regardless of the context the phone is. Paul On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On 11 Aug 2008, at 16:12, Daniel Benoy wrote:

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Daniel, As you know, I had problems with gestures.projects.openmoko.org and moved to http://accelges.googlecode.com Should I erase the project from gestures.projects.openmoko.org, or should I move back to *.projects and erase the one from googlecode. The bitbake is here

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
On Monday 11 August 2008 12:44:10 Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: Your probably using an older version, since what you just saw in the video is not released yet :) I will release a package this week. try hexdump /dev/input/event2 and hexdump /dev/input/event3 and restart your Neo :) Yes I am.

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Ross Woodruff
I dont mean short gestures, those gestures were fine length wise, just your arm movements were big if that makes sense, for example the cirlce you made a really big circle, but is it not possible to make a much smaller circle and for the left and right ones, do you have to move it that far to

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Stroller
Great! Thanks for the info. This seems to give applications devs lots of potential. Any chance of you adding shakes to the gestures? This would be ideal for the ball bearings in a tin can style of unread email message-count. I was about to say any chance of you adding shaking to the

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Vikas Saurabh
I had similar problems with my accels from these imagesperhaps one needs some kernel module installed as well. Nonetheless, I tried 2008.8 (check out wiki to see where to get the rootfs and kernel) and accels worked out of the box. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL