On Sunday 20 Dec 2009 21:04:02 Brolin Empey wrote:
I installed Arora on QtMoko v14. I noticed Arora will not load
Pouethttp://pouet.net/.
Any idea why? There is no error message: the page just never loads. Pouet
loads fine in Firefox on a PC running Linux or Windows.
Appears to be a Qt
2009/12/16 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Brolin Empey wrote:
Hello list,
I am using QtMoko v14. AFAIK, QtMoko does not support GSM multiplexing,
which means even if I had a working and usable Web browser for QtMoko, I
could not use telephony
and usable Web
browser for QtMoko, I could not use telephony functionality, such as
making and receiving phone calls, while GPRS is enabled. If I wanted
to have Internet access on my FreeRunner, what is the least-hassle
method of getting a usable Web
browser
+ telephony and SMS support
2009/12/17 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Brolin Empey wrote:
2009/12/16 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Brolin Empey wrote:
FreeRunner, Om2009 (completely unusable because the GUI kept becoming
Hello list,
I am using QtMoko v14. AFAIK, QtMoko does not support GSM multiplexing,
which means even if I had a working and usable Web browser for QtMoko, I
could not use telephony functionality, such as making and receiving phone
calls, while GPRS is enabled. If I wanted to have Internet
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Brolin Empey wrote:
Hello list,
I am using QtMoko v14. AFAIK, QtMoko does not support GSM multiplexing,
which means even if I had a working and usable Web browser for QtMoko, I
could not use telephony functionality, such as making and receiving phone
calls
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Al Johnson
openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.ukwrote:
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Brolin Empey wrote:
Hello list,
I am using QtMoko v14. AFAIK, QtMoko does not support GSM multiplexing,
which means even if I had a working and usable Web browser for QtMoko, I
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:41 PM, radek polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:
I did 'apt-get update' then 'apt-cache shw arora', and the output says
that
this is version 0.2-1
neo:~# apt-cache show arora
You should use the Qtopia package manager (Main menu-Settings-Package
manager)
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
Another thing, I noticed that Package Manager downloads the list of
packages every time you strt it up (ie. nothing is cached).
Is this how it is supposed to work?
Yes. The packages are being added/changed and having fresh list is good
idea (until it's too big,
-Arora-web-browser-tp3731747p3745297.html
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),
libstdc++6 (= 4.3)
Filename: pool/main/a/arora/arora_0.2-1_armel.deb
Size: 371920
MD5sum: 0258b9669d3563ddc5e4742cf6c91f74
SHA1: ef9256cab20525846e850c1568aaf3d483bac230
SHA256: d3828ec047cfc41373aa468d3ebc3a25cd0f5eca3db19458b53c3f475cbc0e70
Description: simple cross platform web browser
simple
Torfinn Ingolfsen schrieb:
Why does it do that?
Shouldn't it show version 0.4 something?
Try the QtMoko Software installer, i think thats the correct version.
(cant confirm it now, making some backups)
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I did 'apt-get update' then 'apt-cache shw arora', and the output says that
this is version 0.2-1
neo:~# apt-cache show arora
You should use the Qtopia package manager (Main menu-Settings-Package
manager)
Regards
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Hello, everybody,
First release of Arora [1] web browser for QtMoko is online! Check the
package feed.
The port is based on Arora 0.4. This is an old version, but its
functionality is more that enough for a smartphone:
* tabs and windows
* downloads
* history
* bookmarks
* google search
ANT wrote:
Hello, everybody,
First release of Arora [1] web browser for QtMoko is online! Check the
package feed.
Absolutely wonderful!! It works like a charm, just add my auto rotate and we
will be golden ;)
I'll post the code on github ASAP.
It does seem to forget it is in full screen
2009/4/13 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com:
Yes! I reported the problem on the QT issue tracker (but I did not
received the confirmation email).
Just to report that qt acked and the issue is pending for resolution.
Regards
Nicola
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Hi,
*) press About Qt on the rightest menu (it's hidden but you can show
it clicking on )
Not hidden here
On my frerunner (gentoo/e-20090313/qt4.5.0/arora-0.5) the dialog is
not showed and it's impossible to interact further and quit the
I can recreate this with arora 0.4 on my desktop by running it in Xephyr at
320x240 and it results in the following error (on the console I ran it from)
QWidget::setMinimumSize: (/QMessageBox) Negative sizes (-160,334) are not
possible
Do you get something similar if you run arora from a console
2009/4/13 George Brooke solar.geo...@googlemail.com:
I can recreate this with arora 0.4 on my desktop by running it in Xephyr at
320x240 and it results in the following error (on the console I ran it from)
QWidget::setMinimumSize: (/QMessageBox) Negative sizes (-160,334) are not
possible
Do
2009/4/13 Erik Andresen e...@vontaene.de:
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This brings to me another question: how to force killing applications
under e?
I launch xkill under LXDE.
Is LXDE finger friendly? I cannot test it just now.
Nicola
Using 640x480 in xephyr fix the issue, but it persists on the
freerunner even rotating the screen with xrandr, so it may reveal a
problem for X with glamo, (or at least on my setup, as TS events are
not rotated too and I did not dig about this yet).
May you try on your device?
Nicola
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Nope, not really - but it is stylus friendly :)
greetings,
Erik
Nicola Mfb schrieb:
2009/4/13 Erik Andresen e...@vontaene.de:
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This brings to me another question: how to force killing
For people using arora (in the past I heard of some debian users), may
you check and report if you are able to reproduce this:
*) launch arora
*) press About Qt on the rightest menu (it's hidden but you can show
it clicking on )
On my frerunner (gentoo/e-20090313/qt4.5.0/arora-0.5) the dialog is
It's alpha 2 version. It's not usable on FR and everyone can build it
with bitbake (after installing some libs on host, due to bugs).
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This worked on a recently installed and upgraded SHR testing.
opkg install -nodeps
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/fennec_0.9+1.0a2-r2.1_armv4t.ipk
\
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/sqlite3_3.6.5-r0.1_armv4t.ipk
\
I compiled and packed another web browser: netsurf (see:
http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ )
It is under heavy development and Openmoko version is almost vanilla,
just fixed couple of library weirdness.
Some users have reported problems with clicking links.
I will put it in opkg.org when I get
Hi,
Am Freitag, den 20.02.2009, 23:29 +0200 schrieb Aapo Rantalainen:
I compiled and packed another web browser: netsurf (see:
http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ )
thanks for the pointer. It’s packaged for Debian:
http://packages.debian.org/sid/netsurf
So if you are running Debian, you can check
arne anka wrote:
http://www.ginguppin.de/node/19
built links the other day.
Hello,
Wouldn't it be better for such common softwares to refer to the Angstrom
repository?
There is a note (which is perhaps obsolete today) at the end of this page:
http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories
Wouldn't it be better for such common softwares to refer to the Angstrom
repository?
yes, it would.
but as i wrote before -- i am pretty busy right now and for the
foreseeable future fighting with the secrets of jlex and cup.
hitting enter for make build-package-foo and sending the ipk to my
Hi
I tried and opkg list | grep to find web browsers (for FR 2007.2) that
would work in text mode (useful to test wifi on a captive portal like
fon, for instance), but couldn't find any.
Any hints ?
Best regards,
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http://www.ginguppin.de/node/19
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Al Johnson schrieb:
On Saturday 12 July 2008, Michael Kluge wrote:
Al Johnson schrieb:
On Saturday 12 July 2008, Michael Kluge wrote:
Brian C schrieb:
I can't figure out how to zoom in/out while using the web browser
(and/or change the font size
On Saturday 12 July 2008, Michael Kluge wrote:
Brian C schrieb:
I can't figure out how to zoom in/out while using the web browser
(and/or change the font size). Is this functionality not yet coded or
am I missing something? Right now the fonts are too big and I see far
too little
Al Johnson schrieb:
On Saturday 12 July 2008, Michael Kluge wrote:
Brian C schrieb:
I can't figure out how to zoom in/out while using the web browser
(and/or change the font size). Is this functionality not yet coded or
am I missing something? Right now the fonts are too big and I
On Saturday 12 July 2008, Michael Kluge wrote:
Al Johnson schrieb:
On Saturday 12 July 2008, Michael Kluge wrote:
Brian C schrieb:
I can't figure out how to zoom in/out while using the web browser
(and/or change the font size). Is this functionality not yet coded or
am I missing
On FreeRunner 2007.2, I did:
opkg install openmoko-browser2
and also installed the full keyboard per instructions here:
http://www.ginguppin.de/node/15
Now I browse to Google or any site with a form entry box and I cannot
figure out how to enter text into the form. What am I missing?
Brian
Brian C schrieb:
On FreeRunner 2007.2, I did:
opkg install openmoko-browser2
and also installed the full keyboard per instructions here:
http://www.ginguppin.de/node/15
Now I browse to Google or any site with a form entry box and I cannot
figure out how to enter text into the form. What am
factory
2007.2 image. Rebooted after install of keyboard and web browser was
already installed, so to the extent a reboot could help, I've done one.
Brian
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after install of keyboard and web browser was
already installed, so to the extent a reboot could help, I've done one.
Brian
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ScaredyCat? Already rebooted or restarted xserver?
Michael
No error messages during install of the keyboard*.ipk's. Using factory
2007.2 image. Rebooted after install of keyboard and web browser was
already installed, so to the extent a reboot could help, I've done one.
Brian
. Rebooted after install of keyboard and web browser was
already installed, so to the extent a reboot could help, I've done one.
Brian
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Alexander Syring wrote:
I have a symbol in my panel add the following to /etc/matchbox/session
matchbox-panel-2 --start-applets systray,startup \
--end-applets
openmoko-panel-clock,keyboard,openmoko-panel-battery,openmoko-panel-gsm,openmoko-panel-gps,openmoko-panel-usb,openmoko-p
I can't figure out how to zoom in/out while using the web browser
(and/or change the font size). Is this functionality not yet coded or
am I missing something? Right now the fonts are too big and I see far
too little of the page for it to be really usable.
Brian
Brian C schrieb:
I can't figure out how to zoom in/out while using the web browser
(and/or change the font size). Is this functionality not yet coded or
am I missing something? Right now the fonts are too big and I see far
too little of the page for it to be really usable.
Brian
Hi
-specific interactions).
-Hans Loeblich
I disagree. We only have one AUX button and I think we need it for other
reasons.
And I don't want to load web sites that enables drag-n-drop feature.
Wouldn't it take too much ram and cpu?
If I want a full featured web browser, I can use my laptop. I want
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:29 PM, enaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim Shannon schrieb:
I would think it would be as simple as having a toggle button that toggles
from touching the screen to scroll around (up, down, left, right), and
interacting with a webpage. If your in interaction mode,
Neo has enough horsepower and pixels to provide a decent web experience.
I have tested the built in browser (with usb net not GPRS) and it works
just fine. Stable layout, wonderful text rendering courtesy of the
extremely high dpi of the screen.
It just needs some usability tweaks. Like
Ricky Fitz wrote:
Neo has enough horsepower and pixels to provide a decent web experience.
I have tested the built in browser (with usb net not GPRS) and it works
just fine. Stable layout, wonderful text rendering courtesy of the
extremely high dpi of the screen.
It just needs some usability
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Ricky Fitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Neo has enough horsepower and pixels to provide a decent web experience.
I have tested the built in browser (with usb net not GPRS) and it works
just fine. Stable layout, wonderful text rendering courtesy of the
Am Mittwoch 09 April 2008 10:08:10 schrieb Ricky Fitz:
Probably use the accelerometers for this? If phone bends over a few
degrees, scroll down or up... ?
I think this is a great and innovative idea.
Does somebody know which resolution can be achieved with those acceleration
sensors (single
Antoine Reid wrote:
While I don't mind using large gestures to perform some operations (like
turning the phone upside-down to prevent it from ringing), I don't think
small gestures should be on by default. Otherwise, it'll be very hard
to use in any case other than sitting down and almost
On 4/9/08, Antoine Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Probably use the accelerometers for this? If phone bends over a few
degrees, scroll down or up... ?
People who will use the device in the bus or in the car will hate you,
unless there is an *easy* way to disable those small gestures, or
I would think it would be as simple as having a toggle button that toggles
from touching the screen to scroll around (up, down, left, right), and
interacting with a webpage. If your in interaction mode, then have the
tiny scroll bars, else leave them off.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 5:00 AM, Tilman
Yeah, you're probably right, but either way there has to be a better
solution that what is currently implemented.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:29 PM, enaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim Shannon schrieb:
I would think it would be as simple as having a toggle button that
toggles from touching the
Tim Shannon schrieb:
I would think it would be as simple as having a toggle button that
toggles from touching the screen to scroll around (up, down, left,
right), and interacting with a webpage. If your in interaction
mode, then have the tiny scroll bars, else leave them off.
in your proposal
.
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Am Mittwoch 09 April 2008 10:08:10 schrieb Ricky Fitz:
Probably use the accelerometers
I will stick to links and go via my proxy server, to remove the spam:)
But I know people have different needs. I think we should not say one option
is the only correct one. I would love to see both links and more advanced
browsers being supported over time.
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Flemming Richter Mikkelsen said:
I will stick to links and go via my proxy server, to remove the spam:)
But I know people have different needs. I think we should not say one
option is the only correct one. I would love to see both links and
more advanced browsers being supported over time.
On 4/8/08, christooss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen said:
I will stick to links and go via my proxy server, to remove the spam:)
But I know people have different needs. I think we should not say one
option is the only correct one. I would love to see both links and
Also, remember to set:
# TAG: redirect_program
redirect_program /usr/bin/squidGuard
and to filter flash (I forgot), you can create a rule like this:
acl annoying3 url_regex \.flv \.swf
and use the rule:
http_access deny annoying3
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Dnia Monday 07 of April 2008, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano napisał:
Just a question, may be it was answered somewhere in th list but why
webkit and not the gecko?
1. Memory usage of Gecko (most of leaks got fixed in 1.9)
2. Easy embedding of WebKit
3. Rapid development of WebKit.
4. WebKit
) and speeds up loading.
I'm not aware of any open source alternative with the same design.
A full-featured web browser is great for full AJAX sites, but I think
Opera Mini is sufficient for most web use.
/Erland
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Just some questions...
Does OpenMoko include a web browser?
If yes:
Is it included in wurfl[1] file?
Does it send x-wap-profile header with a link to a rdf describing its
capabilities[2]?
Perhaps this could help to implement a Device Description to help web
servers to send the right content
thomasg wrote:
In my honest opinion a iphone-browser is not the solution - it's a
tribute to bad webdesign, nothing else. Desktop-like rendering and
therefore needed zooming is exhausting and is leading rendering to the
point auf absurdity.
Rendering is used to make things fit - not to make
2008/4/7, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
My opinion is just the opposite. There where many attempts to create
something like a mobile web. And all failed miserably. (wap, imode, crappy
limited browsers)
Yes, that's the reason for One Web[1]:
One Web means making, as far as is reasonable,
Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote:
2008/4/7, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
It just needs some usability tweaks. Like scrolling without the scrollbars.
Like Opera does (not opera mini) on the Nokia N770 and successors. Which
are by the way a good example for a really good mobile
2008/4/7, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Mobile versions for certain pages are a reasonable choice. But nothing you
can depend on.
True
The Web[tm] just is not mobile. At least not yet.
The Web shouldn't be mobile neither desktop... it should be ubiquos
This is the reason why there
I cannot agree.
We're not talking about the tries to create a mobile web, like wap and co.
did.
They had some good ideas, but the concept was useless, because nobody wanted
to have a second, way smaller net.
We're talking about rendering normal webpages to make them fit the devices
screen.
The neo
Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote:
2008/4/7, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Mobile versions for certain pages are a reasonable choice. But nothing you
can depend on.
True
The Web[tm] just is not mobile. At least not yet.
The Web shouldn't be mobile neither desktop... it should
ewanm89 wrote:
On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:07:27 +0200
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marcus Bauer wrote:
The current browser is based on webkit and has Javascript, DOM etc.
However, the CPU is to slow and the screen to small. Much more fun
is 'links' which does have a graphics
On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 11:22 -0700, Uncle Kridley wrote:
What sort of browser will Openmoko have? From various postings on the
lists I get them impression that there is a (somewhat) working browser,
but the wiki page is very sketchy.
Will/does it support the following?
*) Javascript
*)
What sort of browser will Openmoko have? From various postings on the
lists I get them impression that there is a (somewhat) working browser,
but the wiki page is very sketchy.
Will/does it support the following?
*) Javascript
*) DOM
*) Cookies
In short, is it a real browser (like FF,
Marcus Bauer wrote:
The current browser is based on webkit and has Javascript, DOM etc.
However, the CPU is to slow and the screen to small. Much more fun is
'links' which does have a graphics mode and simply ignores most CSS. But
it is blazingly fast and many pages are better readable with it
On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:07:27 +0200
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marcus Bauer wrote:
The current browser is based on webkit and has Javascript, DOM etc.
However, the CPU is to slow and the screen to small. Much more fun
is 'links' which does have a graphics mode and
ewanm89 ha scritto:
On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:07:27 +0200
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
Webkit is the rendering engine of safari (including iphone version).
Just a question, may be it was answered somewhere in th list but why
webkit and not the gecko?
(no flame
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Hello,
I have some questions about how OpenMoko web browser.
- It is going to be used in a mobile phone. Does it send a
X-WAP-Profile or Profile HTTP header when it makes a request? Does it
use UAProf standard[1]?
- Have you considered
Lopez de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Datum: 15. November 2007 13:39:48 MEZ
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Betreff: Questions about OpenMoko web browser
Hello,
I have some questions about how OpenMoko web browser.
- It is going to be used in a mobile phone. Does it send a
X-WAP-Profile or Profile
On 24.01.07, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
- Minimo is still alive. It works in WinCE devices and Nokia 770 device.
- And there is Gtk-WebCore browser: gpe-minibrowser. It needs some
community love ;-)
Is Gtk-Web Core still being maintained? I was of the
I am not sure if Gtk-WebCore is alive, but it seems to be, since
GPE-Minibrowser seems alive. Check gtk-webcore site[1] and mailing
list[2] for more info.
[1] http://gtk-webcore.sourceforge.net/
[2] http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=121646
2007/1/24, Alexander McLeay [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On
Perhaps, but:
- They seem to be based in old Gtk 1.x. Dillo was the web browser
for GPE until GPE got 2.x and Dillo didn't update.
- Do they support SSL connections?
Best regards,
2007/1/24, Pedro Aguilar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
There are several open source browser for GTK+ that could run
Hi,
There are several open source browser for GTK+ that could run in the Neo
such as Dillo and Skipstone.
Links (the graphical version), although is not based on GTK+, could be
another alternative.
AFAIK, none of those has support for javascript and DOM.
Which make those not very useful
Salve!
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
Is Neo going to have more or less featurefill web browser (e.g. with
javascript machine, etc)?
Featurefill web browser has not so a high priority on my
whishlist that having a cheap low traffic and fast webbrowsing.
So a Proxy on the Neo
to be based in old Gtk 1.x. Dillo was the web browser
for GPE until GPE got 2.x and Dillo didn't update.
- Do they support SSL connections?
Best regards,
2007/1/24, Pedro Aguilar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
There are several open source browser for GTK+ that could run in the Neo
such as Dillo
Hello.
Is Neo going to have more or less featurefill web browser (e.g. with
javascript machine, etc)?
- what is minimo status? is it alive at all?
- any chances to get opera or netfront ports?
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Hi,
sorry, I don't know the status, but for opera you probably just need to
ask the opera guys to compile it for our architecture (i386 won't work
here).
besides, there's a konqueror version from handhelds.org called
konqueror embedded - i'm not sure if that's developed any further, but
it
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