Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-06 Thread Helge Hafting
Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 05 February 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: arne anka wrote: (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WONR=2009012 344A2KC=A2FT=Ddate=20090122DB=EPODOClocale=en_US) i didn't read it fully, but how does that differ from a simple hub or the common

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-06 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/2/5 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk: On Thursday 05 February 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: arne anka wrote: (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WONR=2009012 344A2KC=A2FT=Ddate=20090122DB=EPODOClocale=en_US) i didn't read it fully, but how does that differ

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-05 Thread Helge Hafting
arne anka wrote: (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WONR=2009012344A2KC=A2FT=Ddate=20090122DB=EPODOClocale=en_US) i didn't read it fully, but how does that differ from a simple hub or the common docking station well known to notebook users? and it what respect

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-05 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 05 February 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: arne anka wrote: (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WONR=2009012 344A2KC=A2FT=Ddate=20090122DB=EPODOClocale=en_US) i didn't read it fully, but how does that differ from a simple hub or the common docking station

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-04 Thread arne anka
Do you mean this one? http://openinventionnetwork.com/ heck, no. if i read that right they too work by taking out patents. looked again and found it (it's the eff itself) http://www.eff.org/patent/wanted/ i am all for invalidating such patents, not patent something yourself instead -- be

microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Peter Nijs
I've just read a (Dutch) news article (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58158/microsoft-wil-brug-tussen-smartphone-en-pc- patenteren.html) which describes a new patent microsoft filed. In the article is a link to an English description of the patent.

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Mathieu Rochette
Peter Nijs wrote: I've just read a (Dutch) news article (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58158/microsoft-wil-brug-tussen-smartphone-en-pc- patenteren.html) which describes a new patent microsoft filed. In the article is a link to an English description of the patent.

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Incredible. If I was the person that submitted this patent application, I would have done it under a false name, simply because I would have been ashamed. A great example of Patent System abuse. md -- Jon maddog Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: mad...@li.org

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
one or more means that even if prior art exists, it can still be patented. This is different from intellectual property where anteriority prevent copyright. (at least in france) I think the issue here is in your word it. If it is the concept of a docking station, then there is prior art and

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Peter Nijs
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 15:11:40 Mathieu Rochette wrote: Peter Nijs wrote: I've just read a (Dutch) news article (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58158/microsoft-wil-brug-tussen-smartphone-en -pc- patenteren.html) which describes a new patent microsoft filed. In the article is a link to an

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Mathieu Rochette
Peter Nijs wrote: On Tuesday 03 February 2009 15:11:40 Mathieu Rochette wrote: Peter Nijs wrote: I've just read a (Dutch) news article (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58158/microsoft-wil-brug-tussen-smartphone-en -pc- patenteren.html) which describes a new patent microsoft filed. In the article

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Gothnet
Peter Nijs wrote: I'm almost sure someone suggested hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible Isn't it? You can get external USB gfx cards these days. Whether FR has the power to drive one, or if there are FOSS drivers, I have no idea. -- View this message

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 03 February 2009, Gothnet wrote: Peter Nijs wrote: I'm almost sure someone suggested hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible Isn't it? You can get external USB gfx cards these days. Whether FR has the power to drive one, or if there are FOSS

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Helge Hafting
Gothnet wrote: Peter Nijs wrote: I'm almost sure someone suggested hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible Isn't it? You can get external USB gfx cards these days. Whether FR has the power to drive one, or if there are FOSS drivers, I have no idea.

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Joseph Reeves
Seems the cradle is the only missing component here Except the patent states that it doesn't have to include a cradle and, in fact, that a cable may be considered a feature. Well done Microsoft, you're trying to patent USB host mode on a phone... Joseph 2009/2/3 Helge Hafting

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/2/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: I guess it is possible to overturn that patent, if anyone has a hobby of suing microsoft... Not exactly, but close: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neelie_Kroes ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:13:50 -0500 Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org said: Incredible. If I was the person that submitted this patent application, I would have done it under a false name, simply because I would have been ashamed. A great example of Patent System abuse. bah - it will be a

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/2/3 Peter Nijs pe...@familienijs.be: On Tuesday 03 February 2009 20:10:08 arne anka wrote: btw: there's one of these foss organisations doing exactly what we want -- looking for prior art and questioning patents. if anybody knows their address, drop 'em a note ... Do you mean this one?

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread arne anka
(http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WONR=2009012344A2KC=A2FT=Ddate=20090122DB=EPODOClocale=en_US) i didn't read it fully, but how does that differ from a simple hub or the common docking station well known to notebook users? and it what respect exactly is it not

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Peter Nijs
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 20:10:08 arne anka wrote: (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WONR=20090123 44A2KC=A2FT=Ddate=20090122DB=EPODOClocale=en_US) i didn't read it fully, but how does that differ from a simple hub or the common docking station well known to