Re: Input Method Development

2008-02-07 Thread Sébastien Lorquet
(keeping [EMAIL PROTECTED] and communitylist in the loop) Hehe, This is totally understandable. :) We will explain to you the best as we can. If you want to make a korean keyboard with a key for each letter then you'll need a keyboard with... (sit down before next line) ... 11,172 letters, ie

Re: Input Method Development

2008-02-07 Thread Sébastien Lorquet
Sorry for the imprecision, and thanks for the correction. I spoke too fast. The backtracking should be trivial to implement with my prototype. I'm cleaning it a little before giving it to you. I'm also concerned with copyright. Is there any patent problem with this input method as with T9 (for

Re: Input Method Development

2008-02-07 Thread joerg
Am Do 7. Februar 2008 schrieb dda: I agree that a system of plugins/callbacks could do fine, if it can handle resetting output: eg typing gks bkspc f would output successively: ㅎ - 하 - 한 - 하 - 할 [Unicode 0x1112, 0xd558, 0xd55c, 0xd558, 0xd560]. Being able to backtrack is quite necessary in

Re: Input Method Development

2008-02-07 Thread Sébastien Lorquet
for what I recall, backspace starts by removing *letters* from the last syllable, then entire syllabes. Moreover, hitting a directional key like LEFT RIGHT or any key that changes the caret position terminates composition of the current syllabe. In fact, when you type, the currently composed

Re: WiP: dfu-util for Windows

2008-02-07 Thread Christopher Earl
When you port Dfu-util to windows keep all the switches the same(not that i thought you would change them) and I can write the UI this weekend, It will call on dfu-util, so any changes to dfu can be easily applied to the UI without the need to recode anything, let me know the name of your

Re: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-07 Thread Rod Whitby
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: What I want is for a our company's patents to be freely available, for anyone, but for defensive purposes only. Are there any existing options available to us now? Does anyone know of existing companies or organizations with a similar strategy that we can seek

Re: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-07 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Feb 7, 2008 1:00 PM, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I want is for a our company's patents to be freely available, for anyone, but for defensive purposes only. This sounds like a great idea. I think what you mean is that if a competitor sues OpenMoko for allegedly infringing

Re: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-07 Thread Andres Paglayan
what about posting this exact question at groklaw? On Feb 7, 2008, at 1:00 PM, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Dear Community, Most of you know that OpenMoko is a fully independent company at this point. With this great opportunity comes many challenges. Today I would like to share one with you

Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-07 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Dear Community, Most of you know that OpenMoko is a fully independent company at this point. With this great opportunity comes many challenges. Today I would like to share one with you all and ask for some advice. We need to file patents for our hardware as well as software designs. While

RE: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-07 Thread David Schlesinger
I'd get in touch with the Linux Foundation/Software Freedom Law Center and discuss their patent commons with them. Write me off-list, Sean, and I can get you in touch with the right folks, I think... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean

RE: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-07 Thread David Schlesinger
http://www.patent-commons.org/ is the one that I'm aware of ... This is what I was referring to... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-07 Thread Esra Kummer
This sounds like a great idea. I think what you mean is that if a competitor sues OpenMoko for allegedly infringing its patent, then OpenMoko can counter-sue saying BTW you are infringing this one of ours too and then it gets settled out-of-court by cross-licensing, right? Well I am not too

Re: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-07 Thread Lionel Dricot
I think that we all agree here that the patent system is completely broken. By filling patent, even for defense only, you are playing the rule. What I've seen so far is that small companies that cannot afford a lawyer department simply choose to ignore the rules and just ignore completely the

Re: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-07 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Feb 7, 2008 3:35 PM, Steven Milburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a first step, get anything you think is patent worthy documented and dated. In the US, a common practice is to write up your concept and mail it to yourself in a sealed envelope. You don't open the envelope until you Or get

Re: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-07 Thread Christopher Earl
Forgot to add this link. This will outline the American procedure for patenting. http://www.inventionpatent.net/patent/process.cfm Steven Milburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/07/08 5:35 PM As a first step, get anything you think is patent worthy documented and dated. In the US, a common practice is

proprietary firmware

2008-02-07 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Dear Community, Some of our chips or chipsets contain proprietary firmware in flash memory. For example, in GTA02 these include the Wi-Fi, GPS, and GSM chipsets. Ideally, we would have liked to use chipsets for which even the firmware code would be free, but they don't exist right now. So

Re: I dont know why I was surprised

2008-02-07 Thread Jae Stutzman
captive stylus..anyone? :) the new N810 stylus looks like it might almost fit! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-07 Thread Arthur Britto
On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 17:35 -0500, Steven Milburn wrote: As a first step, get anything you think is patent worthy documented and dated. In the US, a common practice is to write up your concept and mail it to yourself in a sealed envelope. You don't open the envelope until you need to and you

Re: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-07 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Feb 7, 2008 4:45 PM, Arthur Britto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What prevents you from mailing yourself an unsealed envelope? Why would you want to do that? The point is to get a reliable date stamp associated with the material inside the envelope. And as the other link pointed out, it doesn't

Re: proprietary firmware

2008-02-07 Thread Paul Jimenez
+1 Software by its nature is easier to fix than hardware or even firmware; this approach does the Right Thing: vendors win because the firmware layer just got a whole lot easier to write and the rest of the world wins because we get as much control as legally permissible of our hardware. On

Re: proprietary firmware

2008-02-07 Thread Fred Janon
+1 Good and smart decision from my point of view. On Feb 8, 2008 11:58 AM, Paul Jimenez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 Software by its nature is easier to fix than hardware or even firmware; this approach does the Right Thing: vendors win because the firmware layer just got a whole lot easier

Re: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-07 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: What I want is for a our company's patents to be freely available, for anyone, but for defensive purposes only. Aside from patent-commons, which is just a way to allow mutual defense for fellow FOSS projects (assuming I understood this correctly), what I know of is to

now Koolu makes a phone too ;-)

2008-02-07 Thread Doug Jones
http://koolu.com/Koolu-WE-Appliance/WE-Phone.html looks kinda familiar ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

OpenMoko Wireless Chip

2008-02-07 Thread Michael Schmidt
Hello OpenMoko has a wlan chip? Joiku brings in a hostpot: http://www.computerwelt.at/detailArticle.asp?a=114126n=1 http://www.joiku.com/?action=productsmode=productDetailsproduct_id=310 A better idea is to bring in BATMAN protocol for meshed wireless... https://www.open-mesh.net/batman So if

Re: how to enable usb host mode?

2008-02-07 Thread Phani Kumar Kancharala
Can any one suggest me how to use usb host mode with GTA01. On Feb 6, 2008 11:38 AM, Phani Kumar Kancharala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, my plan is to work with a self powered USB hub. Is it possible to work with 2.6.22 kernel?? On Feb 5, 2008 10:26 PM, Christopher Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: now Koolu makes a phone too ;-)

2008-02-07 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Feb 8, 2008 6:29 AM, Doug Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://koolu.com/Koolu-WE-Appliance/WE-Phone.html looks kinda familiar The specs look alike to the letter, you mean... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

Re: now Koolu makes a phone too ;-)

2008-02-07 Thread Michael Shiloh
Yes, Koolu is a distributor. Michael Doug Jones wrote: http://koolu.com/Koolu-WE-Appliance/WE-Phone.html looks kinda familiar ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

another interview about OpenMoko

2008-02-07 Thread Michael Shiloh
Our friend Steve Lake interviewed me the other day: http://www.raiden.net/?cat=2aid=374 I'm afraid he caught me just as my two mugs of morning espresso kicked in, and my sentences are a little long, for which I apologize. Hopefully you can read past that and sense my enthusiasm for this

Re: now Koolu makes a phone too ;-)

2008-02-07 Thread Carlo E. Prelz
Subject: Re: now Koolu makes a phone too ;-) Date: gio 07 feb 08 11:30:53 -0800 Quoting Michael Shiloh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Yes, Koolu is a distributor. mmm. They offer pre-order and quote a price of US$399. Available to developers this March. And the phone becomes a Works