On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Hans L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:29 PM, enaut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim Shannon schrieb:
I would think it would be as simple as having a toggle button that
toggles
from touching the screen to scroll around (up, down, left,
2008/4/14 Dirk Deimeke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
let me know what you think. My inclination is Open accessories.
I agree to Open accessories.
Thinks I would like to see in the box:
- Charger
- USB-Cable
- Headset
I also would like to have - may be separately:
- Stylus
- Pouch
-
On Monday 14 April 2008 00:13, steve wrote:
There will be two products. Buy 1 OR buy 10. ( in 850 and 900 versions of
course)
This seems like an odd decision to me, is it just a limitation of the store
software you are using? Even OS Commerce can handle price breaks.
The same thing happens
Robin Paulson wrote:
2008/4/14 Dirk Deimeke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I also would like to have - may be separately:
- Stylus
personally, i'd want:
*a modified charger (if one is made)
*a pouch
included, and that's it
I think for a phone that's heavily touch-based, a stylus is a must-have.
Regarding a headset, how easy will it be to get a third party (wired,
non-bluetooth) headset with decent sound for the Freerunner?
I believe there was some discussion on the kernel list about impedances,
which made it sound like many standard headsets would not give good audio,
because they have
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 08:38 +0200, Erland Lewin wrote:
2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
1. We have a custom charger that can fast charge the phone.
2. Standard usb chargers will work just fine.
How long will charging the phone take with the fast charger vs. a
normal
I think I'm going to have to completely disagree on this one. I RARELY plug
anything into a computer to simply charge it. I'd venture almost never.
The idea that I HAVE to plug a device into a computer to charge it is
completely ridiculous to me. I'd bet my experience as a product marketer
that
Hans L wrote:
This thread gave me an idea which I haven't seen discussed before,
though it's probably not useful for the situation the original poster
had in mind.
Although the transfer of audio data over cell phone audio is very
lossy, there is at least one standard, proven way of
if it could work with Weston UM2 :) or any Shure ;)
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Erland Lewin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Regarding a headset, how easy will it be to get a third party (wired,
non-bluetooth) headset with decent sound for the Freerunner?
I believe there was some discussion on
Thanks Steve. That's the right way!
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Marc Verwerft
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's a philsophy and business approach that makes sense for you and for me!
Thanks Steve
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 7:21 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Another way to
Reading your email I wonder if there is a misunderstanding here. A USB
charger is not a device that gets plugged into a computer but it is
simply a device that supplies power on a USB-like plug. It can be a wall
charger or a car charger.
If you go to ebay and type in usb charger you get plenty
That's really great news!
And by the way, Steve, thank you for the constant updates (and the
whole bunch of updates of today), it feels great beeing informed!
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Christ van Willegen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve, all,
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:01 AM, steve
El Saturday, 12 de April de 2008 23:13:40 Ajit Natarajan va escriure:
A friend of mine who owns an iPhone purchased an LCD protector. It is a
sheet of clear material cut to the dimensions of the LCD screen. When
affixed to the screen, it doesn't affect touch screen operation.
However, it
So you could use that interrupt to stop the music and begin the call?
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 6:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Fr 11. April 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen:
On 4/11/08, Jens Fursund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Freerunners!
I was wondering if
Hi,
I spoke to my wife (typical end user).
She expects a
- computer independent charger
- headset
- pouch
Best regards
Dirk
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I agree
I love to buy my NEO soon, lets hope they don't break them xD
ramsesoriginal skrev:
That's really great news!
And by the way, Steve, thank you for the constant updates (and the
whole bunch of updates of today), it feels great beeing informed!
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Christ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
The headset button does mute the mic. It's main function however is to trigger
a hardware interrupt to the CPU, which can be used to start the actions you
need to take a pending call. This IRQ function is not depending on on the
mute, but mute is just a side
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Ivo Anjo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be cool also if the Y-cable needed for powered usb host was
included. Since I understand that the cable is kind of custom, and that's
one of the highlights of the neo (being able to connect usb stuff directly
to it),
It would be cool also if the Y-cable needed for powered usb host was
included. Since I understand that the cable is kind of custom, and that's
one of the highlights of the neo (being able to connect usb stuff directly
to it), I think it should be included.
I also agree with including the charger.
Hi,
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:56:10 +0100
Ivo Anjo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be cool also if the Y-cable needed for powered usb host was
included. Since I understand that the cable is kind of custom, and that's
one of the highlights of the neo (being able to connect usb stuff directly
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 12:36 +0200, Andreas Kemnade wrote:
It would be cool also if the Y-cable needed for powered usb host was
included. Since I understand that the cable is kind of custom, and that's
one of the highlights of the neo (being able to connect usb stuff directly
to it), I
count on my vote on this one, Y cable must be a must
;)
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escribió:
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Ivo Anjo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be cool also if the Y-cable needed for
powered usb host was
included. Since I understand that the cable is
Well, you'll get used to it :)
USB-Charging is fine. You can use a standard usb-wallcharger as well as any
mini-usb cable or usb-carchargers and so on.
I have some devices that can only be loaded over usb and some who can also
use a proprietary charger. I mostly use usb, because I have a dozend
Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote:
I Use a A4 sheet of laser printer for overhead projectors film.
I printed a grid 46 mm x 60mm on the sheet the I cut the protectors on demand.
They fit nicely if the are inserted first on the left side of the neo.
That kind of sheets are generally thicker, but how
2008/4/14, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[...] the
great news is that the Neo can use any USB charger.
I have a Neo 1973 and use it on a daily basis. The great thing is that
you don't need any special charger, you can use any $5 charger and it
works. There is a small program out there
Ivo Anjo wrote:
Finally, the miniSD card, DEFINITELY leave it off, unless you get a
really really really good deal, because you can buy very high-capacity
nowadays, so it doesn't make much sense to pay for 512mb or such on the
neo, and then buy a multi-gb one (I am definitely getting one of
Hi,
In IRC we were wondering why the Freerunner, being a USB-OTG-Host (according
to the OTG spec), only has a USB Mini-B interface (black jack).
This means that only USB-Mini-B cables can be used in that jack, what causes
that USB-OTG cables can't be used.
The Freerunner is clearly a device that
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Hi,
|
| In IRC we were wondering why the Freerunner, being a USB-OTG-Host
| (according to the OTG spec), only has a USB Mini-B interface (black
| jack). This means that only USB-Mini-B cables can be used
steve wrote:
[...] your feedback
Here are my 2 cents:
Must have:
Neo ;)
Stylus
Optional:
Charger (Would be useful, at least for end user, so he's sure he doesn't
stress a normal usb charger too much (500mA))
Not want:
Headset (Most of them are crap and I don't even open the plastic bag
I was set up chinese hieroglyphics visibility in my Neo1973 by
downloading SimHei font from this location:
http://www.webpagepublicity.com/free-fonts/s/SimHei.ttf
placing this one to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ directory of OpenMoko
file structure and system rebooting.
В Вск, 13/04/2008 в 17:02
I would say that it must have:
- the phone
- the fancy stylus
- headset
Optionally:
- extra battery
- Y-cable
Not:
- SD card
- charger
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IIRC, the custom cable is actually part of the charger, i.e. charger
and cable is one unit.
If you think about it, this makes sense: If the cable were a separate
unit, you might plug the cable by accident into a charger (or worse,
your laptop) that could not deliver 1 Amp, the phone would
Marcus Bauer wrote:
So essentially the Neo asks hey, can I have 500mA? and there is no
answer. The Neo then plays safe and pulls only 100mA as to the USB
standard. But the Neo can pop-up a dialog asking you hey guy, there is
some unknown charger, I currently take only 100mA, shall I pull more
I use toothpicks. Free in most restaurants, every Swiss army knife has
one, and impossible to accidentally shine the laser into your eye.
:-)
steve wrote:
Ha,
Dont go encouraging me with wacky ideas I like.
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*Sent:*
Can I ask that the US product website support either PayPal or Amex in
addition to MC/Visa?
Thanks,
Matt
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Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:13 PM
To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion'
openmoko wrote:
I have a question about the USB host feature ... Could it be possible to
use a traditional USB keyboard with this feature ? (Enough power ?
Compatible plugs ?)
I figure this is possible...
Can we get an adapter to be able to plug any traditional USB devices ?
(USB storage
I think the only thing in that list I would want with the Freerunner
is the USB cable (as I don't have many mini-USB cables). I already
have a nice bluetooth headset and MicroSD card. Any of those included
with the Freerunner would be useless for me and would seem a waste of
money to me,
On 4/14/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I have a question about the USB host feature ... Could it be possible to
use a traditional USB keyboard with this feature ? (Enough power ?
Compatible plugs ?)
Yes. But maybe not all. A normal keyboard should not draw too much
One minute of silence for the dead freerunner, death to ensure a product
free of defects :)
2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The last of DVT testing is I think complete. These are destructive
tests.
Where we try to break the phone.
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Not providing SD card could take off taxes about private copy or other
bullshits like that from RIAA and friends... as I said in a previous mail.
To me charger should be provided, with stylus, headset and pouch at least.
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On ma, 2008-04-14 at 13:29 +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
I agree, I'll buy one soon too, but what's the maximum capacity actually
supported (I've seen the wiki, but there are no so much tests)? I'd like
to buy an 8Gb Mini-SD card...
I have a 8 GB one (Sandisk) in my Neo right now.
Hi,
I have a question about the USB host feature ... Could it be possible to
use a traditional USB keyboard with this feature ? (Enough power ?
Compatible plugs ?)
Can we get an adapter to be able to plug any traditional USB devices ?
(USB storage key ...)
Thanks for your answers.
El Monday, 14 de April de 2008 13:16:40 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) va escriure:
Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote:
I Use a A4 sheet of laser printer for overhead projectors film.
I printed a grid 46 mm x 60mm on the sheet the I cut the protectors on
demand. They fit nicely if the are inserted first
On Mon Apr 14 12:58:04 CEST 2008 Jay Vaughan wrote:
But you still have to hack up a cable to make it work. Thus, it
should be included in the Freeruner, in my opinion ..
It is not necessary to modify a cable to fast charge the device. All
that is needed is something like [1] (which costs US$3)
Hi there,
I read some discussions about the accessories to GTA02. In my humble opinion
the community should not expect the OpenMoko Inc to provide all the
accessories, as soon as the phone is released, especially for the
non-consumer version yet. For now i would be happy to get the phone itself,
It is not necessary to modify a cable to fast charge the device. All
that is needed is something like [1] (which costs US$3) and the
software from [2] and you have fast charging without modifying a cable
or relying upon the folks from OpenMoko to get into the accessory
business.
I want this
steve wrote:
1. A final release of software to the factory. Bug Fixing will go on after
this, but the image we commit is one we will stick with for a while.
Don't ask me what a while is. I'll talk about the software release
late Next week and let you all know what made it into the first
Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote:
El Monday, 14 de April de 2008 13:16:40 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) va escriure:
Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote:
I Use a A4 sheet of laser printer for overhead projectors film.
I printed a grid 46 mm x 60mm on the sheet the I cut the protectors on
demand. They fit
I totally agree with you, Marco!
But I would like to add two important things:
-The Pouch is more important than needed for me, it's essential. It
will always be there, when I'm not using it, I also don't want a
no-name pouch, because I like that one with the word openmoko on it,
because it is
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:47:38 +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
steve wrote:
1. A final release of software to the factory. Bug Fixing will go on
after
this, but the image we commit is one we will stick with for a while.
Don't ask me what a while is. I'll talk
I am one of those crazy people who use the neo 1973 as their everyday phone,
and I NEVER use the pouch. Does any current every day user use the pouch or
lanyard?
I lost the stylus (it's way too cool; if you forget it at a restaurant or
something, you don't get a call asking if you want it back
My opinion:
+ USB-cable is essentially! I think the nice FreeRunner won't look nice
with a self-made cable...
+ pouch
+ lanyard (this is something Moko-specific like the pouch...)
- no stylus
- no SD-card (1/2 GByte are too small, more are too expensive)
- no headset (some want big ones, others
I think my main concern is I see USB Cable and USB Charger used
interchangeably in these messages. They are not one and the same. So which
is that we are talking about?
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:29 AM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Reading your email I wonder if there is a
Hi,
I think you are right.
There are two main opinions on getting the phone.
The geek way and the end user way.
Geeks have other needs or wishes than end users have.
What about addon packs to a basic phone with charger?
Dirk
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On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:01 AM, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, you'll get used to it :)
USB-Charging is fine. You can use a standard usb-wallcharger as well as
any mini-usb cable or usb-carchargers and so on.
I know this isn't the case, but if were to HAVE to plug it into a computer,
it
On 4/14/08, Lowell Higley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:01 AM, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, you'll get used to it :)
USB-Charging is fine. You can use a standard usb-wallcharger as well as
any mini-usb cable or usb-carchargers and so on.
I know this isn't the
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:02 PM, NeoSleg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:47:38 +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
steve wrote:
1. A final release of software to the factory. Bug Fixing will go on
after
this, but the image we commit
I don't know how much you watch XKCD but this comic was drawn few days ago.
http://xkcd.com/407/
Maybe this is feature request for TangoGPS? Or other GPS programs in
openmoko.
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Then I'll shut up. BTW, I don't hate or love the visual look of the Neo.
It's more function than anything else to me.
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4/14/08, Lowell Higley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:01 AM,
thomasg writes:
In IRC we were wondering why the Freerunner, being a USB-OTG-Host (according
to the OTG spec),
Will Freerunner be OTG? NEO could do either host or device, but
didn't follow OTG spec to do it.
only has a USB Mini-B interface (black jack).
This means that only USB-Mini-B cables
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 10:33 -0500, Bobby Martin wrote:
I lost the stylus (it's way too cool; if you forget it at a restaurant
or something, you don't get a call asking if you want it back :-)
They are $3 a piece w/ shipping included if you take ten.
For example this one here:
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| thomasg writes:
|
| In IRC we were wondering why the Freerunner, being a USB-OTG-Host
(according
| to the OTG spec),
|
| Will Freerunner be OTG? NEO could do either host or device, but
| didn't follow OTG
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Breakable [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi there,
I read some discussions about the accessories to GTA02. In my humble opinion
the community should not expect the OpenMoko Inc to provide all the
accessories, as soon as the phone is released, especially for the
Exactly, that's the idea of it all.
Am Mo 14. April 2008 schrieb Jens Fursund:
So you could use that interrupt to stop the music and begin the call?
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 6:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Fr 11. April 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen:
On 4/11/08, Jens
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:12 AM, christooss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know how much you watch XKCD but this comic was drawn few days ago.
http://xkcd.com/407/
Maybe this is feature request for TangoGPS? Or other GPS programs in
openmoko.
Hehe, this sort of idea could possibly be
I guess the interrupt is disabled by default, to avoid IRQ storms while
resume/boot.
From schematics it looks fine and there should be no issue in *normal* use
(enable this interrupt while inbound_call headset_connected).
Driver (=software) issue
jOERG
Am Mo 14. April 2008 schrieb Jens
El Monday, 14 de April de 2008 13:16:40 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) va
escriure:
That kind of sheets are generally thicker, but how they look on the
screen? Are they invisible as the (best) lcd protector are?
How do you attach it to the phone?
I have uploaded a video to youtube
I'm in the same position as Bobby. I use my Neo as my primary phone as
well as my digital media player. I haven't touched the lanyard or the
pouch since I took them out of the box.
But I also don't use my stylus. My stylus was neat in the beginning,
because I could use it to play with my cats,
Andy Green andy at openmoko.com wrote on Mon Apr 14 13:50:27 CEST 2008
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Hi,
|
| In IRC we were wondering why the Freerunner, being a USB-OTG-Host
| (according to the OTG spec), only has a USB Mini-B
Sorry,
I want to keep things as simple as possible for our shipping folks. So,
that's the current plan. I'll make rational adjustments as time goes
forward. Think about the 10 pack as a bulk product. That's what it is.
Steve
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[mailto:[EMAIL
At the Openmoko wiki I have found some info about the battery life for
the GTA01 but almost nothing about GTA02 (Freerunner). At least someone
must have tested how long the battery last before a recharge is needed?
And how long will you be able to talk before the battery runs out,
anyone who knows
openmoko at tsleg.com openmoko at tsleg.com wrote on Mon Apr 14
15:12:50 CEST 2008
---
Hi,
I have a question about the USB host feature ... Could it be possible to
use a traditional USB keyboard with this feature ? (Enough power ?
Compatible plugs ?)
Can we get an
yes,
I am trying to balance all of these issues and keep the ordering process
and fulfillment process simplified.
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Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 11:33 PM
To: List for Openmoko community
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
El Monday, 14 de April de 2008 13:16:40 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) va
escriure:
That kind of sheets are generally thicker, but how they look on the
screen? Are they invisible as the (best) lcd protector are?
How do you attach it to the phone?
I have uploaded
I think that has been one of the top unanswered questions on many peoples
minds. I don't think we've gotten a solid answer yet, but I'm sure it will
come in time.
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Tomas Gustavsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
At the Openmoko wiki I have found some info about the
That's a good idea, but for the most part that approved stamp can be
fulfilled through the wiki. I'm sure there is already list of compatible
hardware / devices that work with the NEO. I suggest you add your iGo
charger to that list.
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL
Good question.
I have copied Michael Shiloh on this mail. He's on travel now. If I tried
to answer your question I would just beclown myself.
So, Michael, can you recap the charger technical details. perhaps an update
on the Wiki. Charger FAQS. etc.
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do you attach it to the phone?
I have uploaded a video to youtube http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=9enAgqLWeX0
So you're simply putting the protector under the phone case?
Doesn't it move around?
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I'll add it at some point. The reason I haven't is because right now
the Fast Charge applet isn't part of the Openmoko stack. A default
image of Openmoko doesn't support this charger in fast mode (which is
the ONLY think I'm concerened about, frankly).
And... This might show my own biases, but I
Am 14.04.2008 um 18:07 schrieb Lowell Higley:
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:01 AM, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Well, you'll get used to it :)
USB-Charging is fine. You can use a standard usb-wallcharger as
well as any mini-usb cable or usb-carchargers and so on.
I know this isn't the
Ok,
Well I apologize for killing the orange/white model. When I
get to place where I can figure what colors everyone wants and in what
ratios, then I can easily add colors. For now, folks are focused on the
innards and not the cosmetics.
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Thanks Erland,
I'm getting more info on the audio performance. I'll have samples arrive
in a couple of days and test the audio myself.
Bass for music was reported as a potential weakspot. So, I have to listen to
it. Then I have to make my input.
WRT the big CAP. I don't track the passive
Hello all,
Short version:
Will the firmware on the Neo FreeRunner work with all ATT SIM cards?
Long version:
I've been following this mailing list for over a year and am patiently
waiting for the FreeRunner to be available. In the mean time I have
purchased (with a contract discount) a
Well I apologize for killing the orange/white model. When I
get to place where I can figure what colors everyone wants and in what
ratios, then I can easily add colors. For now, folks are focused on the
innards and not the cosmetics.
In the days of Henry Ford, it made sense to say You can
The RapRep doesn't have the precision needed to build a Neo case, and
last I checked, didn't have varied enough base materials to make a
study, opaque, and APPEALING case. Put simply multi-colored cases
are purely a looks thing.
The CAD files are out there and someone who wanted to sell after
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Still, poor Freerunners... :'(
On 4/14/08, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One minute of silence for the dead freerunner, death to ensure a product
free of defects :)
2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The last of DVT
Thanks Lowell.
The phone will ship with a wall charger.
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To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Re: Charger? (was: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT
http://the-gadgeteer.com/review/brando_workshop_ultra_clear_protector_plus_screen_protector
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On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 07:57:02PM -0500, Hans L wrote:
Although the transfer of audio data over cell phone audio is very
lossy, there is at least one standard, proven way of transferring data
by phone: DTMF(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTMF).
please note though, that if you send DTMF over
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 01:39:24PM +0200, thomasg wrote:
Hi,
In IRC we were wondering why the Freerunner, being a USB-OTG-Host (according
to the OTG spec), only has a USB Mini-B interface (black jack).
While the GTA01 and GTA02 can both operate as USB host, they boat are
NOT an OTG compliant
Just to give you a summary judgement:
Running any kind of voice-encoded data over a regular voice channel of a
GSM phone is _extremely_ unlikely to work.
There are a number of different codecs in use. Which codec is
determined by the network. There is echo cancellation at potentially
multiple
Ok thanks dirk.
Frankly, some people thought the pouch sucked.
If I ship a pouch, you have no choice. you get my pouch.
My opinion: it's a phone sock.
Ideally I would love to have the community
develop this accessory if they want it.
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I think Michael and I were supposed to test the 8GB version.
Actually Michael tests and I say wow and great and then do the happy dance.
He'll be back soon. We will revert on this.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Trevisan
(Treviño)
Sort of off topic here (very) but i think the GTAV3 (or whatever next
model) should have some form of firewire, would prove extremely handy
whenever your around locked windows machines and feel that urge to poke
around ^_^
ontopic:
I personally haven't owned a Neo yet, but i think the pouch
How to develop such a phone sock?
OK, my mother is quite good at knitting, but... ;-)
I could post some design proposals...
cheers
Sebastian
P.S.: I asked my mother and some neighbours:
- charger
- pouch
- lanyard
nothing else...
Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 12:36 -0700 schrieb steve:
Ok
Let me give you another example... I've probably showed 20 people pics of
the Neo1973. You want to know what I hear? Man, that's ugly! That's
what I hear every time. Now you're thinking so what? it's functional.
You and I may not care what it looks like, but consumers do. I'm guessing
no
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 20:06 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
I have made the same observations when showing the Neo. An additional
feedback came from a former key account manager who had sold millions
of phones to Vodafone and other MNOs: it is impossible to sell this
industrial
Haha. I remember that. I use chopsticks and squizzle sticks.
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Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
Harald Welte wrote:
Just to give you a summary judgement:
Running any kind of voice-encoded data over a regular voice channel of a
GSM phone is _extremely_ unlikely to work.
There are a number of different codecs in use. Which codec is
determined by the network. There is echo cancellation
Harald Welte wrote:
Just to give you a summary judgement:
Running any kind of voice-encoded data over a regular voice channel of a
GSM phone is _extremely_ unlikely to work.
There are a number of different codecs in use. Which codec is
determined by the network. There is echo cancellation at
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