Actually it is incredibly accurate only if you use PPS output otherwise
idea of having atomic clock in your pocket goes out of the window.
Richard Guest pravi:
GPS essentially *is* accurate timing... GPS satellites are flying atomic clocks.
Trimble has a good GPS tutorial -
Hi all,
I have seen much discussion on this list with respect to Freerunner only being
available to purchase in the US and Europe. Can someone please confirm whether
or
not Freerunner will be able to bought in Australia also ?
Cheers
-aW
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Dear Ron/Community:
This confusion comes from time latency of series of events, but no
matter A5 or A6 should all apply the LED transistor change.
I already update all the changes that shipping A5 will apply.
Subject: Re: Don't ship GTA02v5 without the rework - reply
Date: dom 20 apr 08 05:15:29 +0800
Quoting Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
This confusion comes from time latency of series of events, but no
matter A5 or A6 should all apply the LED transistor change.
Dear Tim:
Why this? Why not selling v6 directly? And... Which are other
diffs between v5 and v6? I think that the power usage of every
element of the phone is vital.
This part could also be fixed on A5. And we don't have mass production
A6 PCB yet, the 100 pcs sample A6 factory made some
(sorry for the length of this message)
I was thinking today about how the phone system is quite dead without no one
noticing it. We are paying unreasonable tariffs for just sending data which
happens to be voice. The whole motivation behind having a number is no longer
existent as with
0n Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 08:06:38PM +1000, clare wrote:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Community
and count the people in the Australian capital cities you will get about
10. These will all have bought from the US last time.
So the likelihood of getting 10
Sunday 20 April 2008 skrev Jens Fursund:
Just wanted to put the word out! We are five people in Denmark trying to
make a group sale, so if anyone is interested please go to the Group
Sales wiki-site and put your name in the list.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales
Best Regards,
Jens
I this mail is great. I totally agree!
Sure, as Marco said, if no phone is still produced, and the change is
minimal, then it would be better to start proucing right away with he
improved versions.But I think most people can live with a brighter
led, even if that means some battery life less.
On
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Stefano Cavallari
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(sorry for the length of this message)
I was thinking today about how the phone system is quite dead without no one
noticing it. We are paying unreasonable tariffs for just sending data which
happens to be voice.
I disagree with that GSM phone is dying. In Europe almost everyone over
12 has a GSM phone and use it every day. How can you state it is dying?
On the other hand noone knows what would happen to the Internet if all
those people would choose to use VOIP instead of PSTN (Public switched
telephone
On Sunday 20 April 2008 13:49:29 Schmidt AndrXs wrote:
I disagree with that GSM phone is dying. In Europe almost everyone over
12 has a GSM phone and use it every day. How can you state it is dying?
I said it is dying but few realizes it yet. Sooner or later people will want a
internet
Well, no matter whether it's dying out or not; while I tend to agree that it
actually is; I'm also sure it will still be ubiquitous for probably the
better part of another decade.
Plenty of time and market share available to manufacture and sell people the
best open GSM phones :)
:M:
On Sunday 20 April 2008 14:23:26 Stefano Cavallari wrote:
You can potentially use less bandwidth if you choose more intelligent
codecs. And yes I'm for paying actual bandwidth for mobile Internet.
The Internet doesn't mean necessarily broadband and flat prices.
And remember that IM is way
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 2:51 PM, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 20 April 2008 14:23:26 Stefano Cavallari wrote:
You can potentially use less bandwidth if you choose more intelligent
codecs. And yes I'm for paying actual bandwidth for mobile Internet.
The Internet
Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) ha scritto:
This confusion comes from time latency of series of events, but no
matter A5 or A6 should all apply the LED transistor change.
I already update all the changes that shipping A5 will apply.
On Sunday 20 April 2008 15:14:58 ramsesoriginal wrote:
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 2:51 PM, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 20 April 2008 14:23:26 Stefano Cavallari wrote:
You can potentially use less bandwidth if you choose more intelligent
codecs. And yes I'm for paying
On Sunday 20 April 2008 15:14:58 ramsesoriginal wrote:
[...]
I also would say that I don't know about Stefano, but i thought of
this as a modular system when I read this mail: If you feel the need
for gsm you put in the gsm module, if you think oyu need 4g you put in
that chip, and if you
I want to comment on the modularity thing.
PCMCIA is not even an option. If you look at the trend,
you will notice that more and more comes in SoC
(System on Chip). This is complete systems with
internal bus, etc. This is micro system technology.
I know that we will see more of those and they
Thank you Tony for the update !
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) ha scritto:
This confusion comes from time latency of series of events, but no
matter A5 or A6 should all apply the LED transistor change.
I already
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:21 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as the goodies in the box go. Whether it's an A5 or a A6, the box
will the following at least.
I'm still sorting through some issues.
1. phone.
2. Battery
3. Custom Charger
4. Sdcard.
5. Stylus.
6. USB cable.
We're all going to die!!!
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Dylan Semler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:21 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as the goodies in the box go. Whether it's an A5 or a A6, the box
will the following at least.
I'm still sorting
Exactly. Every cell phone I've ever had has contained obvious firmware
bugs, firmware or otherwise. The difference is with openness you are
far more likely to find and resolve the bugs.
I hope it ships, it would be crazy to not ship with such a minor issue
that can be soft fixed.
Matt
The Guitar pick story is funny. remind me later and I will tell you
_
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:02 AM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Re: Steve on V5 versus v6
We're all going to
It needs lots of advertising, and i think for basic end-users the device
should come with something in the settings like Turn on advanced mode to
make the shell icon 'n all those techie things to turn on, or else the basic
end-users will just see it too complicated 'n stuff 'n start
Hello,
With Freerunner, is it possible to turn the GSM off while keeping the
rest of the unit on? I am interested in web browsing using WiFi or
using the unit like a PDA or music device without the power consumption
or radiation of the GSM.
Thanks.
Ajit
The prices for GTA02 and the debug board are $399 and $99, respectively.
While there's nothing wrong with charging exactly 99 dollars for
something, the practice of reducing a round price by one dollar, AKA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_pricing is often associated
with cheap
I see those 2€ as some kind of twisted way of openmoko giving me a free
beer ;)
Alexey Feldgendler pravi:
The prices for GTA02 and the debug board are $399 and $99,
respectively. While there's nothing wrong with charging exactly 99
dollars for something, the practice of reducing a round
Yeah, I think that would be an excellent idea! Stop with the -1 or -5
prices! Free your mind :) . And as an added bonus we pay you a little more.
Ivo
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The prices for GTA02 and the debug board are $399 and $99,
So with every n Neos you get a free beer? A weird frequent buyer program?
Peter Kraker wrote:
I see those 2€ as some kind of twisted way of openmoko giving me a free
beer ;)
Alexey Feldgendler pravi:
The prices for GTA02 and the debug board are $399 and $99,
respectively. While there's
I agree, I'd like to pay for Freerunner 400$ in place of 399$
I alway liked 0 finishing number more than 9 finishing number.
I vote for 400$! It is a very strange request, I admit :)
Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
The prices for GTA02 and the debug board are $399 and $99,
respectively. While
Am Montag, den 21.04.2008, 00:28 +0200 schrieb Marco Trevisan
(Treviño):
steve wrote:
As far as the goodies in the box go. Whether it's an A5 or a A6, the box
will the following at least.
I'm still sorting through some issues.
1. phone.
2. Battery
3. Custom Charger
4. Sdcard.
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:11:59 +0200
Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The prices for GTA02 and the debug board are $399 and $99,
respectively. While there's nothing wrong with charging exactly 99
dollars for something, the practice of reducing a round price by one
dollar, AKA
I'm happy paying $399 for all ye who feel the need to pay $400 to make
it even. :P Though, I'll hop on the even bandwagon if it's dropped as
long as Openmoko makes profit. :)
If you really want to pay more, you could set up a Tip a Developer program...
-Kevin
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 7:13 PM,
It's not about paying more, it's about transparency and setting a
standard for others to follow.
I vote for 400$ also.
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm happy paying $399 for all ye who feel the need to pay $400 to make
it even. :P Though, I'll hop on the
no free hops, barley, and yeast. make your own beer
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shiloh
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 3:02 PM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Re: 99
So with every n Neos you get a free beer? A
On Sun April 20 2008 7:27:06 pm Kevin Dean wrote:
I'm happy paying $399 for all ye who feel the need to pay $400 to make
it even. :P Though, I'll hop on the even bandwagon if it's dropped as
long as Openmoko makes profit. :)
If you really want to pay more, you could set up a Tip a Developer
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Brandon Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun April 20 2008 7:27:06 pm Kevin Dean wrote:
I'm happy paying $399 for all ye who feel the need to pay $400 to make
it even. :P Though, I'll hop on the even bandwagon if it's dropped as
long as Openmoko makes
The pouch, alas, did not fit into the box. When Michael gets his photos
done, or my spawn get their video done, then you will see that we have
greatly reduced the size of the box. Partly for aesthetics, and partly to
create a product where I could pack 10 phones boxes in a bigger box, and
then
steve ha scritto:
I'll gladly put the price back to $650 which was the first price we
released.
LOL... BTW for me you can also put the price at 398 for staying a little
more far from 399... :P
--
Treviño's World - Life and Linux
http://www.3v1n0.net/
On Sun April 20 2008 11:09:07 am Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
I want to comment on the modularity thing.
PCMCIA is not even an option. If you look at the trend,
you will notice that more and more comes in SoC
(System on Chip). This is complete systems with
internal bus, etc. This is
Michael and I are talking about using the pouch as a give away in certain
venues.
But I had to optimize to get the price down to the level I thought people
deserved.
I'll look into it, The lanyard is also out and I know that maddog will chew
my butt because he loves it.
-Original
It's wonderful the focus of the community is now
all about $399 vs $400 rather than availability
of Freerunner in certain colors.
who says the community-based process with
complete open-ness doesn't have an impact.
and YES I agree, the remaining V5 vs V6 issues seem small
(but we did get extra
Hmm, isn't the dollar price just an estimation?
Cheers,
Federico
On 4/21/08, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
steve ha scritto:
I'll gladly put the price back to $650 which was the first price we
released.
LOL... BTW for me you can also put the price at 398 for staying a
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