Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Michele Renda
On 24/03/2009 03:44, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: The best would be just hire back those valueable people, and work out how they want to work. Even if they want to form a new (software) company, to make sure this situation will never happen again. Hello, who told you that he was fired from

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread clare johnstone
Michele and others you could try reading what Andy said here: fromAndy Green a...@openmoko.com hide details Mar 23 (17 hours ago) to Nicolas Dufresne nicolas.dufre...@gmail.com cc

Re: paroli updates

2009-03-24 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Is paroli still being worked upon? I see that the latest git changes were made 10 days ago. Some kind of holiday going on? Sure, I am still fighting :) Stumbled across some issues that meant I had to do a lot of research etc. I am trying to get elementary in and etk out. That requires a

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:44:06 +0100 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com said: I do not know who is responsible for this desicion but I hope they are not the same design team who had fired Rasterman. who said i was fired? i quit (hanged in my resignation) of my own volition. :) handed

Re: paroli updates

2009-03-24 Thread Marcel
Am Tuesday 24 March 2009 08:18:13 schrieb Mirko Lindner: Hi, Is paroli still being worked upon? I see that the latest git changes were made 10 days ago. Some kind of holiday going on? I am trying to get elementary in and etk out. [...] Does this mean that paroli will finally also run on

Re: paroli updates

2009-03-24 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, Marcel wrote: Does this mean that paroli will finally also run on debian which is missing python-etk? I'd be really happy to hear that. :D That would be part of the deal yes :) I am not sure how long the switch takes, but I am doing my best. If anyone wants to lend a hand, I'd be

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:04:30 +0100, clare johnstone clar...@gmail.com wrote: Michele and others you could try reading what Andy said here: fromAndy Green a...@openmoko.com hide details Mar 23 (17 hours ago) to Nicolas Dufresne

Openmoko meeting Stuttgart (Wed 25.03.2009)

2009-03-24 Thread vale
Hi everyone, i want to announce that we will meet Wed 25.03.2009 at 19:00 for a first come-together-meeting in Stuttgart: Location: Wichtel Hausbrauerei Stuttgarter Strasse 21 70469 Stuttgart http://www.wichtel.de/ Its in Stuttgart-Feuerbach near the S-Bahn Station there. You are all

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:12:42 +0100 Alexey Feldgendler ale...@feldgendler.ru said: On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:04:30 +0100, clare johnstone clar...@gmail.com wrote: Michele and others you could try reading what Andy said here: fromAndy Green a...@openmoko.com hide

Re: Accelerometer Data

2009-03-24 Thread Michael Tansella
Thank you very much for the sample code. I've just read that Andy has left Openmoko, so I wonder what will happen to the Andy-tracking Kernel. I hope that the changes to the ABS sync events will go into the stable Kernel. When that happens I'll add your Code to the Wiki if you agree. All the

Re: Is SIM Toolkit possible to support on the freerunner?

2009-03-24 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Technically, SIM toolkit support is possible with the Calypso. I have commented previously about this, so please look my older posts up; In a nutshell, STK is a heavy cross-layer spec, so adding it would need quit some thought. FSO will not work on it, but appreciate patches. :M:

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-24 Thread arne anka
- you need another set of headphones with 2.5 plug Hmm, I don't see the point here. Can be done with any headset/headphones, including the FR accessory ones. Probably I got you wrong. there was some discussion about the pinout of those things months ago -- did that refer to headsets only?

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-24 Thread Paul Fertser
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de writes: - you need another set of headphones with 2.5 plug Hmm, I don't see the point here. Can be done with any headset/headphones, including the FR accessory ones. Probably I got you wrong. there was some discussion about the pinout of those things months

Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it

2009-03-24 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Xavier Cremaschi a écrit : Hi, one month after, do you have any update relative to shipping date of GTA02v7 ? Kind regards, Xavier mode Biff Tannen ON : Hello? Hello? Anybody home? Huh? :-/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it

2009-03-24 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 01:39, Alexander Raab raab.alexan...@gmx.at wrote: But a few months ago I met someone and he told me that the buzzing is quite heavy. I read about a fix for that on the A7, but there is only a A6 sold. Have I missed something? I do not know what will be fixed on the

Re: Bying a Freerunner with the buzz-fix on it

2009-03-24 Thread Paul Fertser
Cédric Berger cedric.berge...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 01:39, Alexander Raab raab.alexan...@gmx.at wrote: But a few months ago I met someone and he told me that the buzzing is quite heavy. I read about a fix for that on the A7, but there is only a A6 sold. Have I missed

[debian] preferred working kernel at the moment?

2009-03-24 Thread Fox Mulder
Hi, i wonder which kernel is the best or lets say the most stable and working für debian at the moment. Since i upgraded from the last 2.6.24 kernels to the 2.6.28/29 i have more problems than benefits. :/ I tried the latest selfcompiled andy-tracking from [1] and the latest unstable OM kernel

Re: Accelerometer Data

2009-03-24 Thread Iain B. FIndleton
The location of the control interfaces for the accelerometers in the 2.6.28 build has moved to : /sys/bus/platform/devices/lis302dl.x/... After reading the code for the driver version on the git tree, I discovered that the settings for sample_rate and full_scale are limited to 2 values

Re: question about kernel image build

2009-03-24 Thread xiangfu
On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:57 AM, mx li wrote: i got a freerunner, first i download the two image: Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 use the dfu tools upgrade success. but i want to build the kernel image myself, so i do like this: 1. install git tools: apt-get

Re: Flashing error?

2009-03-24 Thread xiangfu
On Mar 22, 2009, at 5:32 AM, Brigzzy Ory'Hara wrote: I'm not flashing it to the SD card, I'm using the onboard flash. But now that you mention it, in an attempt to troubleshoot an unrelated problem, I did delete both the partitions on the SD card. Could this be causing my problem?

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes
I love these threads where we talk about company things, like the recent official buzz fix thread, or the secret UI design team IRC conversation, and there is NEVER any response from OpenMoko. I wonder if they see the community mailinglist as COMMUNITY ONLY, i.e. no employees allowed? :)

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread arne anka
I love these threads where we talk about company things, like the recent official buzz fix thread, or the secret UI design team IRC conversation, and there is NEVER any response from OpenMoko. I wonder if they see the community mailinglist as COMMUNITY ONLY, i.e. no employees allowed? :)

Re: Multitouch on FR ... imho should be possible to mimic

2009-03-24 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
This has been discussed multiple times since last ~15months. The basic assumption a middle-point when touching with 2 fingers might be anyway exactly in the middle is incorrect. It depends on pressure of each touchpoint. There have been many different opinions about feasibility of this approach,

Re: Multitouch on FR ... imho should be possible to mimic

2009-03-24 Thread The Digital Pioneer
It's tough to say until someone tries it. I don't have the GUI expertise to do anything of the sort, but I'd love to see someone try it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Multitouch on FR ... imho should be possible to mimic

2009-03-24 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita
--- On Tue, 3/24/09, Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote: This has been discussed multiple times since last ~15months. The basic assumption a middle-point when touching with 2 fingers might be anyway exactly in the middle is incorrect. It depends on pressure of each touchpoint.

Re: Is SIM Toolkit possible to support on the freerunner?

2009-03-24 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 24. März 2009 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: Technically, SIM toolkit support is possible with the Calypso. I have commented previously about this, so please look my older posts up; In a nutshell, STK is a heavy cross-layer spec, so adding it would need quit some thought. FSO will

Re: Flashing error?

2009-03-24 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, xiangfu wrote: On Mar 22, 2009, at 5:32 AM, Brigzzy Ory'Hara wrote: I'm not flashing it to the SD card, I'm using the onboard flash. But now that you mention it, in an attempt to troubleshoot an unrelated problem, I did delete both the partitions on the SD card.

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 24. März 2009 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS: Who left? At the hardware side: Werner and Joerg I'm no longer busy for OM on a regular monthly plan. OM is free to contract me for particular tasks, but for now that doesn't seem to happen in the near future. cheers jOERG signature.asc

[Debian] Usable alarm clock/timer app?

2009-03-24 Thread Marcel
Hey, I have found ffalarms on opkg.org (iirc), but that requires atd which is installed on my local Debian Sid machine, but I cannot find it in the Debian repos to install it on the Neo. So is there a (finger-usable?) alarm clock application somewhere? I know there will be tons of them on

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Gothnet
You should have stopped here IMHO. It really is none of our (community's) business, and it would be a lot more productive to just focus on the question of where do we go from here? Hey, something being none of our business has never stopped a good rant before! Personally I'm beginning to

Re: Is SIM Toolkit possible to support on the freerunner?

2009-03-24 Thread Mike Crash
My vote: don't implement STK, or at least disable it by default. I don't like my SIM to do any program execution /j My vote: implement it, banking is part of mobile communication like calls and sms with the same relevance, for me it is the one and only thing, that make me not use neo as

Re: [Debian] Usable alarm clock/timer app?

2009-03-24 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Yeah, I'd love to see one for SHR-Unstable too, as the default alarm clock app went all wacky on me and tried to kill my SHR. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

[OT] Re: [Debian] Usable alarm clock/timer app?

2009-03-24 Thread Marcel
Am Tuesday 24 March 2009 20:03:51 schrieb The Digital Pioneer: Yeah, I'd love to see one for SHR-Unstable too, as the default alarm clock app went all wacky on me and tried to kill my SHR. Ya, that's why we desperately need sandboxing, such apps will one day conquer the internet and rule us!

shr- avoid suspend and dim screen

2009-03-24 Thread Fernando Martins
Hi, I would like to avoid suspend while using GPS (tangoGPS) but at the same time allow the screen t switch off. I found on the wiki a page about ompower (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Ompower) but the first command, to get a list of the available resources dbus-send --system --print-reply

Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen

2009-03-24 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I'm using SHR Unstable, and I never have it suspend automatically just for reasons like this. It still turns off the screen after a while though. What I would like to see is the disabling of screen dimming while (for instance) a game such as MokoMaze is running, which has no screen touching. It's

Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen

2009-03-24 Thread Fernando Martins
Ah! I forgot to tell: I'm using shr unstable from January and the settings UI doesn't work, , so I was looking for a command line instruction to suspend on/off. Unfortunately, suspend off is not sufficient since the battey gets drained too fast, in a couple hours while using GPS. I don't know

Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen

2009-03-24 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Can you not opkg update opkg upgrade? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Linball game 0.2 version

2009-03-24 Thread Will Siddall
I know it's been a while since anyone last wrote, but I just thought I would try it on SHR-testing (20080303). When it starts up, it rotates the screen, flashes a couple of times then returns to the window. The bash script is doing it's job, but the exectuble is returning with a: Warning: Audio

Re: Linball game 0.2 version

2009-03-24 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita
Hello, --- On Tue, 3/24/09, Will Siddall will.sidd...@gmail.com wrote: I know it's been a while since anyone last wrote, but I just thought I would try it on SHR-testing (20080303). When it starts up, it rotates the screen, flashes a couple of times then returns to the window. The bash

Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended

2009-03-24 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi Tuan, I was able to make a datacall to a landline modem :-) So you can use your freerunner to dial in to an ISP if you like. i wil paste the proof of my success below. Now i just need to find a way to make it less expensive... Kind regards, Ed MODEM=$(dbus-send --system --print-reply

Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen

2009-03-24 Thread Fernando Martins
The Digital Pioneer wrote: Can you not opkg update opkg upgrade? Actually I don't know what exactly that would lead to: wold I get SHR testing or the current SHR unstable? OTH, my current setup works (mostly) well and recently there were a bunch of people reporting problems with getting a GPS

Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen

2009-03-24 Thread The Digital Pioneer
That will just get you latest unstable. I do it frequently, and it all works about as well as can be expected, including GPS. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Simple touching test (maybe someday multitouch test)

2009-03-24 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
Hi, I made first simple application to test touchscreen. It doesn't give me much hope about multitouching, but maybe we can discuss better if we have something. http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/touching/ It is gtk program which prints 1) mouse location 2) mouse button press (and its

Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen

2009-03-24 Thread Fernando Martins
The Digital Pioneer wrote: That will just get you latest unstable. I do it frequently, and it all works about as well as can be expected, including GPS. Ok, great! Thanks, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Back to the Basics plan: Andy left

2009-03-24 Thread Steve Mosher
Thanks Gunnar, There is one thing we tend to be very tight lipped about. HR issues. That is its very rare that you will find any employee commenting on why a particular individual is not with the company anymore. Some people are let go for performance. Some are let go due to cost cutting.

Re: question about kernel image build

2009-03-24 Thread mx li
xiangfu: i only burn the kernel image build myself, and the rootfs i used is Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2, i didn't change it. 2009/3/24 xiangfu xian...@openmoko.org On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:57 AM, mx li wrote: i got a freerunner, first i download the two image:

Re: paroli updates

2009-03-24 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Mirko Lindner wrote: I am trying to get elementary in and etk out. That requires a lot of refactoring in the different apps. Oh... Cool! This is what I really wanted to read. I think that elementary is and must be the choice! ;) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/

linphone 3.1.0

2009-03-24 Thread Al Johnson
Here's a preliminary bitbake recipe for the latest linphone release. Binaries for fso-milestone5 are in: http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/repos/mazikeen/fso-milestone5/ipk/armv4t/ Problems: * I haven't got it to do sound yet - it seems unhappy with the alsa device capabilities. I don't know if

Google Summer of Code

2009-03-24 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Hey, I'm just wondering if there are any cool FR-related projects in GSoC this year. Anyone know? -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-24 Thread Carl Lobo
using bt means: enable bt, power on headset, connect, pray your partner has not hung up annoyed. :) I think a more efficient way would be to keep the headset connected to the device and play only when you get the call. My guess is that this is what other phones do...

Re: question about kernel image build

2009-03-24 Thread mx li
i see the message: can't open kernel image i use the toolchain is: openmoko-i686-20080916-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 what wrong is it? 2009/3/25 mx li lz5...@gmail.com xiangfu: i only burn the kernel image build myself, and the rootfs i used is Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2, i

Re: [Debian] Usable alarm clock/timer app?

2009-03-24 Thread W.Kenworthy
And mine on shr-testing annoyed the family so much THEY wanted to kill SHR, the FR and me in whatever order it took to shut it up in the early hours of the morning ... :) BillK On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 14:03 -0500, The Digital Pioneer wrote: Yeah, I'd love to see one for SHR-Unstable too, as the

Re: shr- avoid suspend and dim screen

2009-03-24 Thread W.Kenworthy
Taken from the replies to a similar post of mine (I think!) some time back. Replace the exec call in the desktop file (/usr/share/applications/tangogps) to this script. The exports work around where tango cant seem to find its home config This is my car script - sets up the FR so I can place it

Re: Openmoko meeting Stuttgart (Wed 25.03.2009)

2009-03-24 Thread Bernhard Höll
Hi, that was a little short notice, but I will do my best to be there at 19:00. See you there.. Bernhard signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org