Re: [Qt Extended] debian image

2009-04-02 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
Hi, yesterday evening I've tried the debian image (converted to uimage+jffs2), but it seems very slow compared to a fso based image. Also the voicenotes *seems* to be recording, but not playing :-) So I've tried an fso-nox image+andy-tracking kernel, and that just worked out of the box (but again

Re: [QT Extended Improved] patch: 0001-using-uevent-to-get-kernel-notifications-for-usb-cable-changed.txt

2009-04-02 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Filip Onkelinx fi...@linux4.be wrote: Hi, attached is a patch to use uevent to get kernel notifications for 'usb-cable-changed' in QtExtended on recent kernels (=2.6.28). On 'older' kernels (2.6.28), this information was comming in trough /dev/input/event4

Re: [QT Extended Improved] patch: 0001-using-uevent-to-get-kernel-notifications-for-usb-cable-changed.txt

2009-04-02 Thread Filip Onkelinx
Franky, battery starts charging as well, cableChanged is also being used for changing powermanagment scheme. F. On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 09:22:33 +0200, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Filip Onkelinx fi...@linux4.be wrote: Hi, attached is a

Re: [Qt Extended] debian image

2009-04-02 Thread Filip Onkelinx
Hi, I did a quick try of Radek's image on a µSD last night, and alltough I have no 'hard-figures', it seemed to be considerably slower to me as well compared to my home-brewn SD. Not sure what/why it is slower: kernel, QtE binaries or other... voicenotes: could it be that the 'mic' is muted?

Re: [openBmap] Version 0.2.0 released of the GSM cell, GPS logger

2009-04-02 Thread kimaidou
Hi Thanks a lot for this new version. I would like to know if you could create a new page in opkg.org for easily follow, install and upgrade it ! Thanks in advance Kimaidou 2009/3/30 Onen onen...@free.fr Hello, the new version of the logger is out. This is a major step: you can now do the

Re: [QT Extended Improved] patch: 0001-using-uevent-to-get-kernel-notifications-for-usb-cable-changed.txt

2009-04-02 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
Hmm ... I'm pretty sure I saw my phone suspending while connected ... I will test this more. F. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Filip Onkelinx fi...@linux4.be wrote: Franky, battery starts charging as well, cableChanged is also being used for changing powermanagment scheme. F. On Thu,

Re: [Qt Extended] debian image

2009-04-02 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
Well, when using Radek's image, I saw a progress in seconds, but playing didn't work (even when going via mediaplayer itself). In the fso image, I hear a click when starting recording, but no progress in seconds, and not playable as well. So ... needs investigating :-) I need to test lots of

Re: buzz fix

2009-04-02 Thread Steve Mosher
looks like the wire is too long. See the photo in the SOP. Also, looks like he didnt remove the rubber around the mic before working on it. Just a guess. Joerg will respond I'm sure. Peter Stumm wrote: Hello, a good friend does the buzz fix for me, but after doing that there is still a

Re: [QT Extended Improved] patch: 0001-using-uevent-to-get-kernel-notifications-for-usb-cable-changed.txt

2009-04-02 Thread Radek Polak
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: Hmm ... I'm pretty sure I saw my phone suspending while connected ... I will test this more. F. Filip's patch fixes this for me. I have tested it quite thoroughly. But it's not included in my image yet. Radek ___

Re: $299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?

2009-04-02 Thread Steve Mosher
The phones are indeed A6. The sale is happening for a limited time Shipped from the US Only. So, it's mostly 850Mhz phones. Cédric Berger wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 16:00, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I've not seen any mention of this on the lists, but it all

Need Missing File

2009-04-02 Thread waqar afridi
Hello every I m try to compile the SELinux on Openmoko. When I try to by running the command* make relabel* but it complains about a missing file (dependency problem) *setfiles*. can some body tell me where can i download this file or the source code of selinux-openmoko.

Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany

2009-04-02 Thread Steve Mosher
I'm working with the resellers to come with a program to fix the stock. A couple have offered to work with me and we are ironing out the details for a program for all the resellers. Joerg, myself and others have been at this problem since early december. In parallel I'm looking for innovative and

Solar panel on Freerunner back cover

2009-04-02 Thread Radek Polak
Hi, yesterday i found on internet company that is selling small solar panel pieces. They are quite cheap and my idea is to put them on back cover of Freerunner so that they can improve battery life. Here [1] is link to web page with informations about panels. It's only in czech, so i can

Re: Solar panel on Freerunner back cover

2009-04-02 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi Radek, I was looking for a GPS bluetooth mouse with solar pannels for longer navigating. It seems that it is hardly worth the effort, it will give you a few precent longer uptime and time to full charge would be like days. Just my 2 cents. Kind regards, Ed On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 10:17

Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

2009-04-02 Thread kimaidou
Hi lists, I would like to know if there were some progress on easily installing the transparent keyboard (qwo or anyone else) on SHR distribution. I think the SHR distro could really benefit on this ! Thanks for any news Kimaidou 2009/3/12 Richard Kralovic r...@om.ksp.sk ... so it's working

Re: Solar panel on Freerunner back cover

2009-04-02 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz writes: Would it be possible to attach output from this solar panel straight to battery connector? Do you think that this can work? Make it 5V, use a regulator and the usb port just to be on the safe side? If you keep the phone in your pocket the solar panel won't

Re: Solar panel on Freerunner back cover

2009-04-02 Thread Tobias Diedrich
Radek Polak wrote: I'd like to have 7 pieces. Those could do 7*0.57=3.99V and 180uA current. Would it be possible to attach output from this solar panel straight to battery connector? Do you think that this can work? You'd need at least an additional diode (preferably schottky for low

IPhoneOS on Freerunner

2009-04-02 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Have you seen yesterday? http://openmoko-fr.org/wiki/index.php/IPhoneOS_on_Freerunner Well, it is/was a good April joke. But this one isn't. http://www.quantum-step.com/wiki.php?page=About http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/gallery/menu.php?gallery=membersalbum_id=16

Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

2009-04-02 Thread Johny Tenfinger
SHR has patch for Xglamo about Composite extension included, so you musn't take care about that. Only install what you want ;) 2009/4/2, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com: Hi lists, I would like to know if there were some progress on easily installing the transparent keyboard (qwo or anyone else)

Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

2009-04-02 Thread kimaidou
This is great news indeed. Humm...sorry for this, but could you please reexplain the different steps to install the qwo transparent keyboard on my SHR ? I am an end user, and it is a bit hard to understand for me. The best would be to provide an ipk package if possible. Thanks a lot ! 2009/4/2

Re: IPhoneOS on Freerunner

2009-04-02 Thread ivanshirok...@gmail.com
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller пишет: Have you seen yesterday? http://openmoko-fr.org/wiki/index.php/IPhoneOS_on_Freerunner Well, it is/was a good April joke. But this one isn't. Have you ckecked it out? http://www.quantum-step.com/wiki.php?page=About

Re: Learning with flashcards - granule

2009-04-02 Thread ezuall
Hi there, I found it, but I haven't been able to test it on my Freerunner, because I'm testing android on it at the moment. You can grab it here in the next 24 hours (remember that I did warn you about the changes not being pretty): http://pastebin.com/d3b742c7f The format for the card files

Re: Solar panel on Freerunner back cover

2009-04-02 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 10:17:23AM +0200, Radek Polak wrote: I'd like to have 7 pieces. Those could do 7*0.57=3.99V and 180uA current. Hopefully that's 180 mA. Would it be possible to attach output from this solar panel straight to battery connector? Do you think that this can work?

Illume keyboard alternatives (to be default in distro?)

2009-04-02 Thread Pander
Hi all, At the moment some alternatives exist for the default Illume keyboards, see: - illume-keyboards-default-alt http://www.opkg.org/package_180.html - illume-keyboards-numeric-alt http://www.opkg.org/package_106.html - illume-keyboards-browse http://www.opkg.org/package_144.html All being

Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)

2009-04-02 Thread Davide Scaini
I upgraded again today, and i got new kernel, but with no sound and no wifi... is there another way to downgrade or i have to flash the old one? d On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: Nice! it works, it seems to me that the category Office is compulsory. I

Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)

2009-04-02 Thread Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann
Am Donnerstag 02 April 2009 15:42:33 schrieb Davide Scaini: I upgraded again today, and i got new kernel, but with no sound and no wifi... is there another way to downgrade or i have to flash the old one? d try to open a terminal and execute 'depmod -a'. After that reboot and it should all

zenity package

2009-04-02 Thread Previdi Roberto
I have uploaded the zenity package at http://www.opkg.org/package_181.html please let me know if you have dependency problems, i'll try to publish all the needed libraries. roby ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: $299 ESC San Jose limited time Special! ?

2009-04-02 Thread Bram Mertens
Joseph I too got a FR from kd85 and I'm impressed with the service. Regards Bram On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: That would make sense... After a bit of googling for belgium openmoko (a perfectly normal search term, honest...) I found this

Re: IPhoneOS on Freerunner

2009-04-02 Thread RzR www.rzr.online.fr
2009/4/2 ivanshirok...@gmail.com ivanshirok...@gmail.com: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller пишет: http://openmoko-fr.org/wiki/index.php/IPhoneOS_on_Freerunner Hi, For curious only, here are additional resources : http://digg.com/programming/IPhone_Linux_Crossplatform_development_not_impossible --

Graphics Performance

2009-04-02 Thread Iain B. FIndleton
A significant issue for me is the performance of the graphics display on the FR. I recall some discussions a while back about making use of the XGlamo acceleration features. Has any progress been made here? It appears to me that the graphics performance on the FR is poor compared to, for

Re: [SHR,FSO] Serenity theme for illume

2009-04-02 Thread Biagio Marino
Hello, Where is the package of serenity? Il giorno dom, 29/03/2009 alle 17.13 -0400, Joel Newkirk ha scritto: I know it's been a few weeks since I said I was going to try to get this out, I apologize. I've released what is essentially an alpha test for the Serenity theme, therefore named

Re: [openBmap] Version 0.2.0 released of the GSM cell, GPS logger

2009-04-02 Thread Onen
Hi, if you have comments and/or suggestions about this release or future evolution feel free to contact me! Well so far what I have tried is to get the package directly into the feeds. This is the case for OM:

Re: [SHR] from debian to shr ;-)

2009-04-02 Thread Davide Scaini
you're right! [writing from fr now] it works nicely, thanks! d [only some issues with some opkg software, but i'll open a specific thread] On 4/2/09, Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann m...@mnet-online.de wrote: Am Donnerstag 02 April 2009 15:42:33 schrieb Davide Scaini: I upgraded again today, and i got

Re: [openBmap] Version 0.2.0 released of the GSM cell, GPS logger

2009-04-02 Thread Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann
Am Donnerstag 02 April 2009 18:09:41 schrieb Onen: Hi, if you have comments and/or suggestions about this release or future evolution feel free to contact me! Well so far what I have tried is to get the package directly into the feeds. This is the case for OM:

Re: Graphics Performance

2009-04-02 Thread Tobias Diedrich
Iain B. FIndleton wrote: A significant issue for me is the performance of the graphics display on the FR. I recall some discussions a while back about making use of the XGlamo acceleration features. Has any progress been made here? It appears to me that the graphics performance on the FR is

Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-02 Thread Justyn Butler
A couple of days ago Sean made a speech at ESC. For anyone interested it is described here, with a video excerpt: http://techpulse360.com/2009/03/31/esc09-open-moko-is-the-anti-iphone-runs-google-android-but-still-no-3g/ He talks about the level of freedom the Freerunner offers people wanting to

[QtExtended] Latest and greatest

2009-04-02 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
Hi, here are some first results of my tests on a fso-nox image and andy-tracking kernel (2.6.28): - alarms (using atd from angstrom, since no newer package exists), normal + when suspended == OK - wake up when receiving sms == OK - call + echo check == OK - missed call bug == OK -

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-02 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:38:42PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: A couple of days ago Sean made a speech at ESC. For anyone interested it is described here, with a video excerpt: http://techpulse360.com/2009/03/31/esc09-open-moko-is-the-anti-iphone-runs-google-android-but-still-no-3g/ He

[SHR] [openBmap] GSM cell, GPS logger now in SHR unstable! (Was: [openBmap] Version 0.2.0 released of the GSM cell, GPS logger)

2009-04-02 Thread Onen
Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann wrote: Am Donnerstag 02 April 2009 18:09:41 schrieb Onen: I am talking to SHR guys to get it in their repository too. shr-unstable has it now :-) Thanks for that! Onen ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest

2009-04-02 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:39:34 +0200 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: Hi, here are some first results of my tests on a fso-nox image and andy-tracking kernel (2.6.28): - alarms (using atd from angstrom, since no newer package exists), normal + when suspended == OK -

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-02 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 06:13:36PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: 2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:38:42PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: He also explains what it would take to put 3G in the phones, saying that they'd do it (but the 3G part would be

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-02 Thread Justyn Butler
2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: I bought the OpenMoko to get a more Free Software phone, not one that gets less and less Free as new devices come up :) Well due to the expense it is clear that no 3G device is going to be Openmoko's main phone for a long time. No one is going to

Re: which way is the easier

2009-04-02 Thread roby
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Anas Alzouhbi anas@gmail.com wrote: Hello! I succeed to do the ssh with my openmoko,but the ways that I have found  to arrive to build the first program are: my suggestion: use shr-testing openembedded tree. I say this because the mokomakefile gave me so much

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-02 Thread Leonti Bielski
I've bought Freerunner because it's open. And I take it pretty seriously. If 3G comes only with license, I don't need it. Freerunner with fixed issues + camera for geotagged photos is an ideal phone for me. Leonti On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: On

Re: [openBmap] Version 0.2.0 released of the GSM cell, GPS logger

2009-04-02 Thread kimaidou
Hi About the advantages of opkg.org * a software dedicated website, so that I can easily know the new and updated softs with rss feeds (I don't have to filter the new entries in the openmoko wiki and get lost among the amount of information) * a small description for each software (you can do this

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-02 Thread Tim Dobson
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: I bought the OpenMoko to get a more Free Software phone, not one that gets less and less Free as new devices come up :) I seriously hope GTA3 fixes some of the most serious problems GTA2 had regarding that. It's interesting that we have been talking

Re: [SHR,FSO] Serenity theme for illume

2009-04-02 Thread j newkirk
Hello, Where is the package of serenity? -- Biagio Marino ilcristopag...@gmail.com Sorry, had a power outage today about three hours longer than my UPS can sustain the server and datalink. Back up now. (I'll probably be moving the server to a colo on a 30mbps fiber soon, but for now

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
He also explains what it would take to put 3G in the phones, saying that they'd do it (but the 3G part would be closed) if a customer put in a large enough order (ie 50,000 units). You've just convinced me that, unless this changes, no OpenMoko with 3G will get my money as far as I'm

Re: Linphone not available?

2009-04-02 Thread yacine
On Friday 20 March 2009, yacine wrote: Al Johnson wrote: http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/repos/mazikeen/shr-testing/ipk/armv4t/ I think I got all the deps that aren't in the main repos, but may have missed some. Looks like faulty memory about the 2.x version - these 1.6 but includes

Re: qt-extended-improved unpredictive keyboard

2009-04-02 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:54:55 +0200 leona...@lilik.it leona...@lilik.it wrote: Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:44 AM, leona...@lilik.it Hi, I'm very interested in testing this, but the source isn't in the zipfile ... For the screenshots, maybe you can try

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest

2009-04-02 Thread Filip Onkelinx
Hi Franky, about the usb cable: (cablechanged signal): initial state is using one of the files as you mentioned, but that's only for initial state (both old and new kernels) - old system : using /dev/input/event4 - new system : using uevent. Can you please double check the power managment,

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-02 Thread Jim Ancona
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: He also explains what it would take to put 3G in the phones, saying that they'd do it (but the 3G part would be closed) if a customer put in a large enough order (ie 50,000 units). You've just convinced me that,

Re: started with openembedded

2009-04-02 Thread Arigead
Angus Ainslie wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 10:41 +0200, Anas Alzouhbi wrote: Thank you for your recommandation, I'm a new user and programmer on Linux, could you help me how can I run my commands as normal user, with the problem of permission of creating directories. what do you mean start

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-04-02 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: In the latest months the enlightenment world has got many updates, but unfortunately the distros available for the FR don't provide the latest versions of the E stack. This is quite normal since they have to share a tested environment, but it makes so hard to

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-04-02 Thread Johny Tenfinger
shr-unstable is now using very hot new enlightenment revision ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-02 Thread Arigead
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Justyn Butler wrote: A couple of days ago Sean made a speech at ESC. For anyone interested it is described here, with a video excerpt: http://techpulse360.com/2009/03/31/esc09-open-moko-is-the-anti-iphone-runs-google-android-but-still-no-3g/

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-04-02 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Johny Tenfinger wrote: shr-unstable is now using very hot new enlightenment revision ;) Yes I know that... But I mostly use Om2008 so to stay a little more on the bleeding edge I have to compile, and I've always done for months :P -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/

I am working on Debian packages for atd-over-fso (was [Qt Extended] debian image)

2009-04-02 Thread Łukasz Pankowski
Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be writes: So this evening I'll play a bit with that image (I need to add atd from angstrom to get the alarms to work probably) and see about the bluetooth thingie. May be you will be interested: I am just working on Debian packages of atd-over-fso [1]

Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest

2009-04-02 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:39:34 +0200 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: - voice notes == not working (not recording) for those curious: it can be done ... There are two things wrong in qtopia: - the wrong alsa scenario file is used (it should be voip-handset.state, but it is

Re: Graphics Performance

2009-04-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:23:38 +0200 Tobias Diedrich ranma+openm...@tdiedrich.de said: Iain B. FIndleton wrote: A significant issue for me is the performance of the graphics display on the FR. I recall some discussions a while back about making use of the XGlamo acceleration features. Has

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:35:58 +0100 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org said: On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 06:13:36PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: 2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 05:38:42PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: He also explains what it would take

Re: Graphics Performance

2009-04-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:17:42 -0400 Iain B. FIndleton ifindle...@videotron.ca said: A significant issue for me is the performance of the graphics display on the FR. I recall some discussions a while back about making use of the XGlamo acceleration features. Has any progress been made here? It

Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-04-02 Thread Levy
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 04:21, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: Levy, We are very Keen to do business in Brazil. Maddog and I converse about this weekly on how to do a better job in Brazil. I'll work to get Him and the disty there some parts for upgrades. Hi Steve. Nice to hear!

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-02 Thread W.Kenworthy
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 11:10 +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:35:58 +0100 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org said: On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 06:13:36PM +0100, Justyn Butler wrote: 2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: ... 3g can be done - just like the 2g

Re: Graphics Performance

2009-04-02 Thread Iain B. FIndleton
Well, that clears things up a bit. So, there is no way to get rid of the draping one sees when the display is refreshed? My stuff uses double buffering, but your comments appear to indicate that that is a waste of time. Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:23:38

Re: Graphics Performance

2009-04-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 21:19:45 -0400 Iain B. FIndleton ifindle...@videotron.ca said: Well, that clears things up a bit. So, there is no way to get rid of the draping one sees when the display is refreshed? My stuff uses double buffering, but your comments appear to indicate that that is a

Re: I am working on Debian packages for atd-over-fso (was [Qt Extended] debian image)

2009-04-02 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
do you mean that whenever that is done you will be ready to package Debian packages for ffalarms? ;) On Fri, 03 Apr 2009, Łukasz Pankowski wrote: Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be writes: So this evening I'll play a bit with that image (I need to add atd from angstrom to get the

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-04-02 Thread Angus Ainslie
Openmoko unstable and anything based on fso/milestone5.5 has stayed current to the newest revision of enlightenment for over a month now. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-02 Thread Steve Mosher
Since I worked on the presentation with Sean for the days he was here in SF, let me give you my view and sean's view. That way we won't get into some version of the telephone game. Sean discussed three things at OpenExpo. 1. Our successes. 2. Our mistakes. 3. Our challenges I won't go over 1 2

Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-02 Thread Joseph Jon Booker
ASU was like this while people were testing and expecting new 2007 releases. Diversity was like this. It seems like FSO started like this (I could be wrong). Can the internal company communication be more open? It's annoying if every 6 months another somewhat secret project is going to come to