Re: gta02-core (was Re: OM future)

2010-02-27 Thread rixed
You can't just separate software from hardware. The fact is you can't have open software without hardware specs, so open soft and open hard comes close together. Go try to rebuild a kernel on a nokia open phone for instance, and see what part of the phone hardware still works. So what should we

Re: gta02-core (was Re: OM future)

2010-02-27 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Samstag, den 27.02.2010, 10:46 +0100 schrieb ri...@happyleptic.org: You can't just separate software from hardware. The fact is you can't have open software without hardware specs, so open soft and open hard comes close together. Go try to rebuild a kernel on a nokia open phone for instance,

Re: gta02-core (was Re: OM future)

2010-02-27 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
a) crack open closed phones by reverse engeneering ? b) wait for a manufacturer to compromise its pot of gold by producing an open phone ? c) put our head in a bag and pretend an iphone or an android is open enough ? d) aim at building one collectively despite all the unbelievers trying to

Re: Rutgers University writes malware for Freerunner

2010-02-27 Thread GNUtoo
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 21:02 +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: I'd like to help with that, if someone could introduce me to the right people. I think that you need to send some patches or to shr-devel mailing list or to to openembedded-devel. I think you also may want to read the

Re: [PATCH] frameworkd battery status reporting

2010-02-27 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Hi Neil, can you point me to an example why this patch is necessary? On a related note, I think this code path is not in use since we moved to fsodeviced. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Mcnavi maps and ipk

2010-02-27 Thread Davide Scaini
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, after the release of mcnavi - in which we're all really interested - i tought that it may be useful to share osm processed maps for mcnavi (since it took me some hour and some GBs to convert whole italy). So I

Re: OM future

2010-02-27 Thread Warren Baird
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote: or get a nokia n900 (though my experience is that its a pile of junk - as i sit here now with my n900 having bricked itself spontaneously over a week ago, so i'm without a phone, 6000km from home, not to mention

Re: Problems with NWA

2010-02-27 Thread Paul Fertser
Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Ben Thompson b...@york.ac.uk wrote: [...] I think this is a different bug. It happens occasionally with me too, but it was also there with the old QT libs. Niko - are you aware of this problem? If you are talking

Re: [PATCH] frameworkd battery status reporting

2010-02-27 Thread Neil Jerram
On 27 February 2010 12:29, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: Hi Neil, Hi Mickey, Thanks for taking a look at this... can you point me to an example why this patch is necessary? Isn't that covered by the quoted section of my previous email? In summary, after installing

Re: [Debian] new kernel package

2010-02-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
' Apart from factoring out those modules, is the new kernel improved in some way?  And is it built without the debug settings? It's the latest upstream andy-tracking, mostly meaning that if compared to July snapshot Bluetooth, GPS etc. should handle suspend better among else. Debug is

Re: Rutgers University writes malware for Freerunner

2010-02-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
It's not hard to run your browser on the neo as user. Though it should be made default. It is the default if you install Debian on your Freerunner, Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [PATCH] frameworkd battery status reporting

2010-02-27 Thread Neil Jerram
On 27 February 2010 19:04, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: So I'll try switching to fsodeviced too; if that solves the problem, I agree that it's probably not worth changing the old Python code. Well, the Debian version of fsodeviced seems not to work straightforwardly yet. It