Re: tangoGPS and good user experience

2010-04-12 Thread Gilles Filippini
Marcus Bauer a écrit , Le 11/04/2010 22:07: On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:01:23 +0200 Gilles Filippini p...@debian.org wrote: BTW I've found gpsd upstream very responsive each time I've submitted a bug to them. Currently there are 5 different GPS API's * gpsd old (pre 2.92) * gpsd new *

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Stefan Fröbe
Hi, as I recently struggled with the same issues I'd like to comment on some of the suggestions On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.comwrote: ... Most importantly: How should I keep up with work that you're doing upstream between releases? Maintaining the

Re: qualitiy is important for tangoGPS

2010-04-12 Thread Sander van Grieken
On Sunday 11 April 2010 19:42:23 Marcus Bauer wrote: On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:29:15 +0200 Sander van Grieken san...@3v8.net wrote: No. Just email your patches to Marcus Bauer. Expect no reply nor use of patches. But, you don't have the right to complain. You have the right to fork,

Re: project customers

2010-04-12 Thread The Rasterman
On 09 Apr 2010 12:37:00 +0200 openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) said: Perhaps I should clarify that I don't mean to make fun of your situation. We're all in the same boat here. No problem Werner, all your optinions and comments are very welcome. As you already said, companiess who

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/4/12 Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com: So, how *should* I collaborate? What mailing-list should I use? When I fix an upstream bug, in what BTS should I publish the patch? Where can we talk on IRC about current developments in tangoGPS, if anywhere? I agree. After my second

how to contribute to open source projects

2010-04-12 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:19:26 -0400 Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com wrote: [...] Let me summarize: * you are well aware that forks are potentially damaging * you wrote one patch that was not accepted * now you spread fud and threaten to damage the tangoGPS project Well okay, you

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:47:55 +0300 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't mind if there was an unofficial, non-endorsed version control system and mailing list as well. Essentially it is the constant threads about forks that have been started and fuelled over and over again by

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Marcus Bauer
Hi Stefan before it gets lost in all the other discussions: I'd still be happy to integrate this. Remarks: * it must be usable for people that have not signed for the 30$ premium account * everything must work from the user interface, command line is not an option * no python

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Stefan Fröbe
Hi Marcus, I guess with those prerequisites I won't make any geocaching submission soon - while all the features are usable as long as you have obtained a GPX file with all the data, the conversion to an sqlite3 db is done on the CLI with (one call to) bash/python scripts. Looking at gpxview

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/4/12 Marcus Bauer marcus.ba...@gmail.com: Essentially it is the constant threads about forks that have been started and fuelled over and over again by Risto that keep me having always a few aces in my sleeve and restricting access to people who I have confidence that they keep the project

Re: project customers

2010-04-12 Thread Werner Almesberger
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: In business strategy planning it is quite common to separate e.g. consumer, project, service, solution business types and markets because they have quite different requirements and attitudes Yes, I was familiar with the concept but I didn't know the term

Re: project customers

2010-04-12 Thread Werner Almesberger
Carsten Haitzler wrote: day. openmoko never made it to be big enough to continue - and ye once you get big enough, the kind of thing you talk about no longer make business sense (as you are busy shopping around to telcos who will order millions of devices). catch 22 :-S This is where an Open

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:32:59 +0200 Stefan Fröbe frob...@googlemail.com wrote: I guess with those prerequisites I won't make any geocaching submission soon - while all the features are usable as long as you have obtained a GPX file with all the data, the conversion to an sqlite3 db is done on

Re: project customers

2010-04-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:19:43 -0300 Werner Almesberger wer...@openmoko.org said: Carsten Haitzler wrote: day. openmoko never made it to be big enough to continue - and ye once you get big enough, the kind of thing you talk about no longer make business sense (as you are busy shopping around

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Stephen Pape
Aces in your sleeve? You mean you're keeping the development process intentionally closed to discourage forkers? What? There's no reason you can't have a public SVN with read only access to everyone except your chosen few. Google code or sourceforge would work fine. Why does all this discussion

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:02:05 -0400 Stephen Pape srp...@gmail.com wrote: Aces in your sleeve? You mean you're keeping the development process intentionally closed to discourage forkers? What? I happily explain it again to you: forks are potentially damaging to any project. Here and actually

Re: tangoGPS is a very successful user orienteted map and gps viewer

2010-04-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
Reminds me of the following feature request: when downloading levels N...N+4 (or 5, 6, younameit), please also download all the levels above (it's a negligible fraction of the corresponding disk space and network bandwidth anyway). I.e. instead of downloads N to N+4, it should be download levels 1

[shr-u] key bindings

2010-04-12 Thread jeremy jozwik
can someone running shr-u greater then 20100306 please print there key binding action params from illum2? my power key has been altered and i would like to get the default action parms back. thank you to anyone who can do this for me. ___ Openmoko

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Stephen Pape
I do not always have time to work on tangoGPS and still can do a constant flow of new features. You are a funny man - big scandale that not all my brain activity is monitorable :) I know that RMS would like to enclose all software developers in a gulag with constant thought monitoring - yeah!

Re: project customers

2010-04-12 Thread Werner Almesberger
Carsten Haitzler wrote: too late for that. the others are in on the game. and now being open enough is all that's needed. window of opportunity for om and the likes has closed - or at the best is very close to closed. I think the advantage is still there, it's just harder to communicate. Also

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Marcus Bauer
Hi Stephen, thanks for your feedback - especially as you are a programmer as you once stated on the openmoko mailing list [1]. On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:36:38 -0400 Stephen Pape srp...@gmail.com wrote: but I couldn't find any useful results with Google. Dang! I have exactly the same problem

Re: project customer

2010-04-12 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Hello Christoph, Good luck. Maddog made a lot words about the Brasilian universitary which should continue the Openmoko project. Nothing happend. As far as I know the University still stands ready and willing to help with the GTA02-core project as soon as that is ready to move forward.

Re: how to contribute to open source projects

2010-04-12 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Hi Marcus, Reading your comments, I'd say you're quickly running several steps of How to destroy your community - http://lwn.net/Articles/370157/ I won't go into the details of listing which is which, and please note that my felling on that is *PURELY* based upon your emails and not on what

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Stephen Pape
Okay. I'm not sure what you're getting at, or why you're completely changing the subject to make a personal attack on me over an argument involving software development practices. I haven't been very active with openmoko, so I guess that makes anything I say invalid? And you're the one complaining

Re: project customer

2010-04-12 Thread Werner Almesberger
Christoph Pulster wrote: Good luck. Maddog made a lot words about the Brasilian universitary which should continue the Openmoko project. Nothing happend. I think it's Sao Paulo you're talking about. USP never promised to continue the project (even though the press may have mis-interpreted

Re: glamo backlight

2010-04-12 Thread mobi phil
The correct full sysfs location for JBT should be: /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/lcd/jbt6k74-lcd/ . Getting the not initialised message indicates that the correct code is compiled into the kernel at least (the message is generated by the JBT driver, and the Glamo driver won't compile without

Re: how to contribute to open source projects

2010-04-12 Thread Marcus Bauer
Hello Rui, you certainly know that I value your opinion a lot. Just the other day there was a storm going on about a remark of Scott James Remnant from Ubuntu who is an outstanding developer, very much committed to advancing Ubuntu. People who have never done any contribution flooded the

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:19:25 -0400 Stephen Pape srp...@gmail.com wrote: Okay. I'm not sure what you're getting at, or why you're completely changing the subject to make a personal attack on me over an argument involving software development practices. So when you use Google it is okay and

Re: tangoGPS community development, patches (was: tangoGPS magnify patch)

2010-04-12 Thread Stephen Pape
Now it's just getting silly. So when you use Google it is okay and when I use Google it is a personal attack? Hey, you are such a cutie :-) You're just twisting words and sidestepping arguments. You used Google to specifically try and prove that I don't know what I'm talking about. You're

Re: project customer

2010-04-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:39:28 -0300 Werner Almesberger wer...@openmoko.org said: Christoph Pulster wrote: Good luck. Maddog made a lot words about the Brasilian universitary which should continue the Openmoko project. Nothing happend. I think it's Sao Paulo you're talking about. USP

Re: project customers

2010-04-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:52:03 -0300 Werner Almesberger wer...@openmoko.org said: Carsten Haitzler wrote: too late for that. the others are in on the game. and now being open enough is all that's needed. window of opportunity for om and the likes has closed - or at the best is very close to

Re: project customer

2010-04-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:08:08 -0400 Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org said: yo maddog!! btw - before i launch in... i'm biased towards maddog - he's always been a well intentioned chap at a minimum, if not and experienced and seasoned veteran who really cares about open - in my experience that has

drm/glamo Re: glamo backlight

2010-04-12 Thread mobi phil
fyi: after successful booting and running the gdrm-waitq example I got on the log: glamo-drm: Fence seq#157 was not signalled (with increasing #ref numbers) and usb network seems to be frozen after second reboot and running intensive directfb test applications problem cannot be

Re: project customer

2010-04-12 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Rasterman! We do go back a long way, don't we? And don't worry...even though I know a bit about the X Window System, I bow to you for the real bit-jamming. all the players are closed with no signs of going open - unless you (maddog) can convince them? It won't be me who convinces