[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are there plans to provide a car adapter for the Neo?
This is a general problem. Where are USB-Power Adator out there. Also
for cars.
But most of them just power the 5V line. This is bad with 99% of the bad
behaving usb gadgets out there.
But Neo is prolite and
I have just seen that this topic is extensively documented on the wiki.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Battery_Charger
Especially the dump charger method is something i did not know.
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Harald Welte wrote:
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 11:19:57AM +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Harald,
please calm down. I know from your blog how upset you are from setting
up the new office location, networks and servers during Taifun time.
in fact that was the most fun part.
But just
importance needed a forum for anything.
If someone likes forums so much. Write a mailinglist-2-frum proxy.
Or make a pimped up verison of the list arcives for browser use.
(This is a part where all/most mailinglists really stink at the moment)
Tilman Baumann wrote:
Harald Welte wrote:
On Tue, Aug 21
Amy Stephen wrote:
But, IMO, the color scheme is wrong! I know lots of amazing technical
hurdles are being cleared and political ones, as well. But, that color
scheme is going to hold this thing back. It should be snazzy and bright
and colorful and full of ENERGY! Not orange and black like
Giles Jones wrote:
Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
It's valuable if it's very cheap or free.
But it's another chip on the already large board.
Agree
DAB radios are more useful given the number of extra channels.
Agree.
Definitely more geekish. :)
There's no end of features you
I like Qtopie too. Especially considering how well they could handle
embedded guis for years.
But in reallity. qt and c++ is a limitation. Look how far Opie was
evolved during the last years and how god id was from the beginning. But
it still was more or less insignificant.
Then look how
Am 24.08.2007 um 21:03 schrieb Lorn Potter:
Tilman Baumann wrote:
I like Qtopie too. Especially considering how well they could
handle embedded guis for years.
But in reallity. qt and c++ is a limitation. Look how far Opie was
evolved during the last years and how god id was from
denis wrote:
Watching a lot of videos about Openmoko and the GUI I saw that it is
very slow and yards away from being snappy. (regarding the application
startup and the acting inside an application) I know that speed is not
the priority thing in developement at the moment but how fast and
Al Johnson wrote:
Hey! If you someday make this sound system for your car, please share
with us some docs/photos/anything ;)
Be sure, mate, you'll get that docs/pictures/anything when it's done.
(Probably the first thing I'll do with GTA2)
And you'll be the first to get the link to the source
Josef Wolf wrote:
On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 07:49:43PM +0200, Lars Hallberg wrote:
[ ... ]
Not much faster I'm afraid, but a new version available at the same place:
http://www.micropp.se/openmoko/res/key2key.py
Lars, can you please explain what you mean how this new 12-chars-per-key
system
Andreas Utterberg wrote:
Thanx for the fast replies!
Does anybody have a good howto on how to setup a sandbox env on a Fedora
to be able to write apps? I have also read that most applications is
written i GTK+, can one program in any other languages for the moko?
Such as python/perl?
I
Jeffrey Thomas wrote:
Anyone know if Synergy (client), which allows for mouse/keybd/clipbd sharing
between two or more computers, will be available on the Neo?
http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
Should be easy to make a package. Go ahead. ;)
PS: I have not looked if it is already available.
Raphael Jacquot wrote:
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
we need
* flawlessly working dialer
* flawlessly working address book
* flawlessly working SMS send/receive
the rest can probably wait ;D
And directly after that a flawless browser and flawless instant messanging.
Because that is
Joshua Layne wrote:
One, the answer icon doesn't look that much different from the ignore icon:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/f/f0/Dialer-incoming-arrows.png
Could there be a color shift here? maybe a green/red thing? I know that
green/red is bad for color blind, but for those of us who
Jeff Andros wrote:
Last night, while I was looking at the monsoon blowing just outside the
heat-island... in my open-top jeep... I had an application idea: GPS
based weather feeds.
on a schedule/when you move into a new area, the phone will go out to a
server and retrieve the weather
systems just don't fit very well together.
And i like both concepts...
But thats how it is. Opensource is just about freedom to choose. The
more choices the better...
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. When OpenMoKo started, these experience where
already made. I would do the same today.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Very simple, i would think it is about compatibility of code. With
openmoko, it is a small difficulty to port a normal linux application
to openmoko. With Qtopia, it would probably involve a rewrite of
major sections of the code.
Also, one possible solution to this
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Very simple, i would think it is about compatibility of code. With
openmoko, it is a small difficulty to port a normal linux application
to openmoko. With Qtopia, it would probably involve a rewrite of
major sections of the code.
So you're saying Qtopia makes it
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A survey on The Register (UK site) had camera at the lowest required
feature with about 25% of people saying they need one and 25% saying
the couldn't care less.
Do you have a link? I can't seem to find it. Also, The Register's readers are
hardly representative of
Ajit Kallingal wrote:
Oft used features don't target the whole market, but it being available will motivate younger generation to get the cool Neo
phone, Making Neo/OpenMoko a commercial success will also help wider acceptance, Keeping it restricted to the Nerd market will not
help future
of this application)
and closing the whole operating system.
So, to me it sounds pretty intuitive.
Agree.
But i find both Buttons on the phone very cumbersome. Because they are
so small and embeded in the case.
But this is a conpletely different story... :)
*g*
Regards
Tilman Baumann
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Tilman Baumann wrote:
But i find both Buttons on the phone very cumbersome. Because they are
so small and embeded in the case.
But this is a conpletely different story...
*g*
Yes, the buttons are a nightmare. Sorry about that, but we inherited
the design
SIM cards are smartcards. They can not be copied by design!
The only way to duplicate a SIM is to hack it. No idea if and how far
that is possible. But it is certainly not legal.
Ask your provider for a duplicate SIM. Many providers will give you
multiple identical SIM if you need them. (At
Cailan Halliday wrote:
http://www.thetravelinsider.com/phones/simsaver.htm
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/9ca8/
They only copy readeable data like address books and alike.
Not the entire sim.
This could replace the idea of having multiple SIM card slots, this way
you can have
Beware. This is not a new idea. Patents? ;)
Btw. i would suggest bashing the phones together. (like a wood block
instrument)
This will produce uinique paterns which do not depend very much on the
resolution of the accelerometers and could easyly picket up by a legacy
microphone of any
Schmidt András wrote:
Hi!
A compass module would be very nice with many applications!
I have no hardware related experince. Is it possible to integrate a chip
like this into the phone? How would you do that?
Bluetooth would be nice. You would need no hardware hacks on the phone
itself.
François TOURDE wrote:
Le 13901ième jour après Epoch,
Schmidt András écrivait:
Tilman Baumann wrote:
Bluetooth would be nice. You would need no hardware hacks on the
phone itself.
Should be pretty easy to hack a bluetooth-serial converter (like
BlueSMiRF from sparkfun) to the sensor. Maybe
Patrick Davila wrote:
I think the whole point of this takeover is Qtopia. Yes, the Nokia N800
series internet tablet uses Maemo (based on gtk). Correct me if I'm wrong
but aren't most of Nokia's cell phones running Symbian? Maybe buying
Trolltech is cheaper than continually licensing Symbian?
Lionel Dricot wrote:
Hello,
I'm very interested by the Neo1973 and I was thinking about doing some
hardware/software hacking on it.
I have several questions.
1) I want to develop an application linked to a FM tuner (with data,
like RDS). Any idea on how I could add a FM tuner on a neo 1973 ?
Jeff Andros wrote:
On Jan 30, 2008 6:07 AM, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
This is a usual question. Although you could configure the USB port in
host mode. It would be unpowered.
snip
Regards
Tilman
I haven't heard anything about it for a while, but IIRC freerunner
Schmidt András wrote:
Hi Juan,
From technology side Java and C# is so similar that they should do the
same performance. It is only Microsoft who is hyping that C# performs
better. The only difference I know and has performance effect is the
presence of structures in C# but not many programs
This brings me to a idea.
Do we have some central repository (wiki?) where all gconf options are
documented?
Since we don't have a control-GUI yet, this seems to me like a very nice
thing to have...
Christopher Earl wrote:
Someone asked about killing the Huge clock that takes up the whole
Nils Faerber wrote:
This is not very productive, leads to fragmentation and does not help
many - only the shareholders of the lucky winner of that fight (and luck
is meant literally, this is a game of luck or have you seen the better
one win in recent years? I just way Win :)
Not really.
If your phone is not entirely dead, holding power vor 10! sec would shut
off the device. (not tactile feedback. You don't knwo whrn it shut down
when your display is off at this time)
Releasing the button shortly and press long again boots again.
M Nader wrote:
Hi,
Is there a way to force
Robin Paulson wrote:
as an aside, where did the name come from for the phone OS?
Mobile Kommunication (Or was it Kommunikation? *g*)
At least this was Harald Weltes version of what the name means...
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Lon Lentz wrote:
Is anyone working on a settings app for being able to make these kinds
of adjustments through the ui? I would be interested in doing it but
don't want to duplicate efforts.
I don't think so.
There is SettingsGUI. Which is basically a collection of bad and not so
bad
Am 20.02.2008 um 22:26 schrieb Shawn Rutledge:
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Tilman Baumann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If your phone is not entirely dead, holding power vor 10! sec would
shut
off the device. (not tactile feedback. You don't knwo whrn it shut
down
(10 factorial
Heikki Sørum wrote:
This could at least be mitigated by _not_ using different
spamtags and by defaulting the Moko's behavior to only display warnings
rather than silently ignore. In addition they contact list in Bob's and
Alice's could work as a whitelist. Any other suggestions on how
Marc Verwerft wrote:
Well, I live in Belgium and I can assure you that sales tax here is 21
% as opposed to Germany's 16 % ...
16% Not anymore... :(
But as afar as i know, you can sell inside the EU to other EU countries
and tax where they buyer lives.
Don't ask me how, but i think there is
ian douglas wrote:
Tilman Baumann wrote:
In my eyes, trust should be calculated automaticly, not by manually
defining trust (like pgp). Using the system could improve it.
Perhaps number of successful phone calls, and length of phone call to
add a number of trust 'points' ... the more
Nils Faerber wrote:
Ricky Fitz schrieb:
Hi,
I just had the idea that it would be nice, to make OpenMoko to act as a
fax-receiver, convert the fax to PDF and do somethin' with it.
Is this possible, already implemented, or is software out there which
can be used on the Neo/Freerunner to do
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
It is just one idea. I don't know how complicated it would be. (This
would need the gsm driver to be in the kernel, but I assume it is.)
It is not. *g*
Receiving SMS is something the GSM unit makes almost autonomously.
gsmd (the driver ;) )just reads the
Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote:
The warning on the wiki says:
*WARNING:* *The OpenMoko GUI applications are not suitable for end
users yet.* They are still in beta. Do not expect to always and
reliably make and receive calls from the OpenMoko GUI. Thanks to the
openness of the FIC
David Samblas Martinez wrote:
22. Digital level
Is any side of the phone straigh enough to be able to
develop such a freaking geek widget?
I could be a funny exercice to play with the
accelerometers.
No camera, no point. ;)
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and
detect that there is no battery and reset. (something like that)
Probably not a good thing for the components, but not a result of any
stress to the power drivers.
But maybe it results in stress for them...
Don't know. Better avoid it. :)
Regards
Tilman Baumann
joerg wrote:
Am Mo 3. März 2008 schrieb Tilman Baumann:
David Samblas Martinez wrote:
22. Digital level
Is any side of the phone straigh enough to be able to
develop such a freaking geek widget?
I could be a funny exercice to play with the
accelerometers.
Sure, at least backside
Jay Vaughan wrote:
Just a reminder to everyone *NOT* to pull out the battery while the
neo has USB power.
i did this. i had to get a new neo: my first one got *fried* from
this. dunno what to do with the old one, frankly it bothers me having
it sit there doing nothing. anyone got any
Jonathon Suggs wrote:
Why? Don't know your exact situation but my guess is that even when the
FreeRunner is initially released it isn't going to be completely
polished anyway. So rather than get all frustrated (and build some
resentment toward the project like I did) don't put an artificial
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
My plan is to connect the divices to a micro controller, a multiplexer
and then to a linksys wireless router (flashed) over rs232 or usb. A
normal computer could of course also be used.
Sun had Jini, which was then a bit to early and now nearly forgotten.
Ryan Prior wrote:
This really shows how little the OpenMoko community understands the
Neo. Why port Windows Mobile when we could be porting Windows 3.1?
Windows 3.1 is a lightweight OS which has excellent application
support from a broad and stable base of industry, and which has
successors
Tilman Baumann wrote:
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
My plan is to connect the divices to a micro controller, a multiplexer
and then to a linksys wireless router (flashed) over rs232 or usb. A
normal computer could of course also be used.
Sun had Jini, which was then a bit to early
Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
Will OpenMoko, with its openness, be the first to implement MPLampS?
Sure. Next year. Exactly this date, probably. :p
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Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
What do we need the CAN interface for?
We already know the speed before we enter the tunnel, and if the neo
is in a car holder in a stable position, calibrated with some
software, it knows from the accelerometers if we are driving strait
ahead or making a turn
thomasg wrote:
In my honest opinion a iphone-browser is not the solution - it's a
tribute to bad webdesign, nothing else. Desktop-like rendering and
therefore needed zooming is exhausting and is leading rendering to the
point auf absurdity.
Rendering is used to make things fit - not to make
Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote:
2008/4/7, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
It just needs some usability tweaks. Like scrolling without the scrollbars.
Like Opera does (not opera mini) on the Nokia N770 and successors. Which
are by the way a good example for a really good mobile
Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote:
2008/4/7, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Mobile versions for certain pages are a reasonable choice. But nothing you
can depend on.
True
The Web[tm] just is not mobile. At least not yet.
The Web shouldn't be mobile neither desktop... it should
Mikko Rauhala wrote:
On ti, 2008-04-08 at 10:22 -0400, Dan Staley wrote:
I have plenty of cell minutes (not to mention free calls between certain
numbers...) but I dont want to pay for a data planso I figure if I
wanted to, I could just have my phone call my computer and transfer data
over
Tilman Baumann wrote:
Maybe CSD is billed like a voice call. I never used it, but i don't
remember any special charges for that.
I dug deeper. Seems like this is true.
But this raises the question if the Neo can do CSD. Probably it does,
since the GSM module does not appear to be somehow
Mikko Rauhala wrote:
A quick glance finds mostly mentions of 1st gen analog mobiles having
been used with modems, and notably At the same time, the speech
oriented audio compression used in GSM actually meant that data rates
using a traditional modem connected to the phone would have been even
Ricky Fitz wrote:
Neo has enough horsepower and pixels to provide a decent web experience.
I have tested the built in browser (with usb net not GPRS) and it works
just fine. Stable layout, wonderful text rendering courtesy of the
extremely high dpi of the screen.
It just needs some usability
Antoine Reid wrote:
While I don't mind using large gestures to perform some operations (like
turning the phone upside-down to prevent it from ringing), I don't think
small gestures should be on by default. Otherwise, it'll be very hard
to use in any case other than sitting down and almost
Matt Manjos wrote:
I guess people could get it airbrushed if it was a matte plastic case,
maybe shipped with primer already painted on it.
Seems like a lot of work, but it would really fit well with the whole
customization thing.
Maybe FIC could start selling DIY at-home plastic injection
Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:34:20 +0200, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The home zone icon uses a rather strange SMS feature.
I don't know details. But there are several message types.
Like messages which pop up without asking the user to open it.
Or like the O2
Hans L wrote:
I'm still working on fully implementing these ideas (been setting up
my filing/reference system lately), but it seems to me a device
running Openmoko would be the perfect place to do much of this
organizing/planning/management. And while I'm certainly not holding
out for my
Peter Kraker wrote:
Yes it's possible, you just have to echo 0 to sys interface for gsm
power management.
Ie:
echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/gta01-pm-gsm.0/power_on
Nowadays it's called fic01 something I think. Just browse around a
little bit.
Last time i checked there was a button in
Vedran Alajbegović wrote:
Until that day comes, i wish someone gives me some links where i can
start exploring Open Moko
wiki.openmoko.org
p.s. Is far as i understood, there is emulator that can emulate Open
Moko environment on a PC
can someone give me some link where i can start with that if
Antoine Reid wrote:
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Cesar Eduardo Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dylan Semler escreveu:
Wait, no guitar pick?
Shouldn't you get the guitar pick with the debug board, since its
main use is to plug the debug
Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote:
Getting to the debug port, at least as described in the wiki, needs both
the torx screwdriver and the guitar pick.
Ah, so this is what the pick is for. Thx.
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Eildert Groeneveld wrote:
Hi List
just wondering if everyone else is suffering from a veeey slow
operation in qemu openmoko. First it takes 10 minutes too boot and then
trying the applications like calendar or entering telephon numbers is so slow
that I never got past one entry.
As
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
Patrick Davila wrote:
http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/04/22/side-by-side-video-windows-mobile-and-embedded-linux/
You have to admit the bling looks pretty.
Just a question: the widgets shown are they running on X?
It seems they are since you can see
Edward Falk wrote:
I really liked using GTK to develop -- it meant I could write my code on
a workstation with the intent of porting it to Moko later, and also with
the possibility of writing a workstation version of the same app.
So what are supposed to program in now? Is GTK actually going
Michael Shiloh wrote:
* Switches the Window Manager from Matchbox to Enlightenment (E17)
Nice.
* Ported Qtopia to Xorg, so it is possible to run Qtopia, GTK, ELF,
and Python applications all at the same time
Really nice.
* Replaced the GTK-based basic phone suite (dialer,
Michele Renda wrote:
Hi Tilman
I think they prefered to use an existent project, because they need
something running and to concentrate their energy to hardware part. They
want to concentrate to the project of hardware, not in GUI writing.
Openmoko is a Software project.
The software is the
Tilman Baumann wrote:
Well, we will see...
I should better keep my mouth shut and wait until there are GTA01 builds.
As i'm just in the mood of speaking about the devil right now.
I hope this will not end as Nokia N770 all over again. I bought my Neo
under the promise that all future software
Am 23.05.2008 um 20:49 schrieb Lorn Potter:
If anyone is in the position to change that, it's we.
I don't like so sound to negative. I like most of the changes.
But i think throwing the gtk apps away and replace them by the QTopia
apps is stupid.
I would rather like to see a transition to
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Conclusions:
*) I will keep PA for the time being and activate module-suspend-on-idle
*) You will be able to turn off the tap ;)
Sounds great.
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W. B. Kranendonk wrote:
Hi List,
I wondered, can two bluetooth devices ping each other and find out their
distance or relative speeds?
Very unlikely.
But some bluetooth devices can tell you the signal level of any peer.
With that, you could aproximate the distance.
Would be interesting if
AVee wrote:
On Monday 16 June 2008 14:40, David Kepplinger wrote:
Hi,
I don't think that's feasible. To measure (with 2 devices) you need
two very synchronous clocks and a very exact measurement. Because the
signal travels with approximately the speed of light (about 300.000
km/s), an error
W. B. Kranendonk wrote:
And, on a side note... How impact proof will the phone be, might she
try throwing her spear? :-P
The weakest link is the screen. :p
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Francesco Cat wrote:
the FreeRunner will have a true GPS integrated, not only an AGPS
system, wouldn't it?
Not only AGPS!? Don't understand you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGPS
AGPS is GPS plus A.
Because I was given the address of this flyer:
Joseph Reeves wrote:
Dear all,
I'd like to bring this poll to your attention:
http://www.zimbra.com/forums/zimbrame-j2me-client/12642-vote-phones-zimbra-j2me-client.html
Sorry, nobody wants this on a smartphone. Why implement features that we
100% need on the platform anyways.
And you
Am 24.06.2008 um 19:07 schrieb arne anka:
Sorry, nobody wants this on a smartphone.
the replies to the op suggest otherwise.
Wisdom of the masses.
if everything zimbra wants is a sufficient number of votes and they
do the
porting themselves -- why not? it broadens the number of
Graeme Gregory wrote:
Well I have seen the future and the future is FSO.
For the first time I have been able to make and receive phone calls on a
gta02 without hassle. GTK+ software could no do this, qtopia software
cannot do this.
Scaredycats gtk/phonekit/the-plan[tm] build works well for
Jay Vaughan wrote:
Hi folks,
What do you recommend I should run on my neo1973 these days, image-
wise? I've been usually lagging way behind with keeping up to date
with Scaredycats releases, but I'm aware there are other images out
there making the rounds .. so what are your guys'
Mike Doody wrote:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 17:27 +0200, Francesco Cat wrote:
I must have missed something... Can you post some links to explain
what are the future plans for the Software Stack? Will GTK not be
present any
Joachim Steiger wrote:
Marcus Bauer wrote:
Hello,
I'm wondering if there is any interest in maintaining the GTK software
stack?
would be nice.
e.g. take the last gtk-based ui apps, rip out all libgsmd and neod
dependencies and start communicating with the new middleware from FSO.
My
Jay Vaughan wrote:
Would you explain this a little more, I'm not sure what you mean.
I am developing a soft-synth for OpenMoko, and I believe others are
too. We would like to jam together, but don't have a mixer. So we
route the audio of one phone to the other, and do 'soft mixing'
Yogiz wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:46:01 +0200
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i am not really into all this gps stuff (the freerunner will be my
first device with gps), but maybe somebody finds this useful:
http://vlkgps.bielyvlk.sk/
Thanks but this base seems to be already
Jay Vaughan wrote:
Sounds cool. Something completely new or something based on csound,
supercollider or similar?
Something new, but supercollider and puredata on the Freerunner will
work, I imagine, quite well. Pair it up with some nice MIDI
controller and a custom cable, and you've
Al Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 03 July 2008, Giorgio M. wrote:
Does the Freerunner has an audio/video player integrated?
which kind of audio and video files are supported?
The answer probably depends on what you mean by 'integrated' ;-)
There is a player in the GTK image that uses
I never had a phone for the last decade.
Mostly out of protest against the ridiculous data rates and prices on
GSM. And because all phones sucked.
I had sworn me, when UMTS would comes out and the prices are ok, i will
buy a phone.
UMTS came, the prices where ok but the phones still sucked. And
Johan Badenhorst wrote:
Hi guys,
I was just wondering if anyone has flashed their Freerunners using
VMWare Player on Windows and if that would even be possible?
Using USB devices attached to the host cmputer usually works. As far as
i know.
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Ole Kliemann wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'd first like to say how excited I am about the Freerunner. I am an
enthusiastic linux user who likes to customize every aspect to create a
workflow that just fits. So a customizable phone is what I have been
looking for. A big thanks to all involved in the
Come on. Could you please all stop abusing this mailing list to track
your orders?
What do _we_ have to do with your order?
Jon Pomeroy wrote:
Vinc and Ian,
When did you get email for OM? I ordered Thursday and only received a
confirmation of my order. Nothing about when shipping would
How accurate does this position information have to be?
With my own telephone numer, i could at least find out in which country
i am.
Not so good for america, russia and brazil.
But in smaller countries, you culd get a ±500km position.
Al Johnson wrote:
Gets my location wrong by 100 miles or
Russell Sears wrote:
Paul Wouters wrote:
This is exactly what Motorola does. It is the 60 seconds of working
phone with openezx.
GPLv3 doesn't say anything about how the protection is implemented,
though it does say continued functioning, so I think they've covered
this loophole. :)
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
They are paying the Trolltech folks now, and they are also paying
EFL developers.
Yes, there is a cool application for connecting the N800 to your car
electronics and see into the engine management.
Which one is that?
(just googled up carman:
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