Re: Binary tarball of toolchain/build environment

on Xubuntu 7.04. Just make sure you have installed the required packages first. I had to install gcc-3.4 and sdl (devel) in order for 'make qemu' to work. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: gmail problems

. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Support for Left handers

Sorry, I meant to send this to the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jul 15, 2007 9:30 PM Subject: Re: Support for Left handers To: Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 7/15/07, Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Gabriel

Re: Not the free phone (was: Re: Again: Advertising thoughts - unleash

On 7/16/07, Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unleash your phone. Neo 1973 : phone - and more OpenMoko : not just a phone -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: Hardware/Software UI Relationship

On 7/17/07, Lars Hallberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The QUERTY keyboard is 14 keys wide on a 55mm wide screen (and it has bevels). That makes 3.9 mm per key. It's a bit painful, but I use it with fingers all the time (fingernails rather). Keys twice that size should work just fine. Although the

Re: Again: Advertising thoughts

On 7/17/07, Clare Johnstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jonathon, How would you manage when there are a lot of names? My phone is also my phone book, and has pages of names in small print. This is why I Hmm, looking at my current phone (which has a keyboard below the (small) display, this is

Re: projects of interest?

On 7/17/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We need a good use for GPS, I want something like Tomtom but this How about POI[1] tracking? Simple idea: when the Neo user enters a POI, she or he presses a button (read: starts a program), the GPS waypoint is recorded, perhaps the program asks

Build environment with MokoMakefile on FreeBSD / amd64?

Hello, Has anyone successfully built openmoko-devel-image with a build environment installed on FreeBSD / amd64? I have a working development environment on my laptop which runs (X)Ubuntu 7.04 - that was really easy to set up following the instructions at the wiki. But, my laptop is kind of

Re: Build environment with MokoMakefile on FreeBSD / amd64?

Grr.. I forgot to do 'reply-all'. -- Forwarded message -- From: Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jul 19, 2007 1:07 AM Subject: Re: Build environment with MokoMakefile on FreeBSD / amd64? To: cedric cellier [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 7/18/07, cedric cellier [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Build environment with MokoMakefile on FreeBSD / amd64?

On 7/19/07, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, it won't run: As far s I can tell, I have all needed dependcies installed, inclunding netpbm, lynx and sdl: [EMAIL PROTECTED] portversion -v | grep sdl sdl-1.2.11_1,2 = up-to-date with port sdl_image-1.2.5_2

Re: Build environment with MokoMakefile on FreeBSD / amd64?

Hello, On 7/19/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had the same error on my MacOS X. It has something to do with glibc header which exists on Linux but not on FreeBSD. You can read about my attemts here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU_on_MacOSX I see. It

Re: Build environment with MokoMakefile on FreeBSD / amd64?

On 7/19/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked for help on OE mailing lists. Someone responded that he has a patch for this but I could not find it. Interesting. Do you have a reference to that thread in mailinglist archives?

Re: Marketing...

Hello, On 7/20/07, Ted Lemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It speaks to exactly the problem that we will have marketing OpenMoko: how to get Joe and Jane Average to think of the Open in OpenMoko as something they care about. Don't do rthat then. As in don't limit the marketing to only focus on the

Re: Marketing...

Hello, On 7/21/07, Ted Lemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 20, 2007, at 4:25 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: It speaks to exactly the problem that we will have marketing OpenMoko: how to get Joe and Jane Average to think of the Open in OpenMoko as something they care about. Don't do rthat

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

Hello, On 7/21/07, Valerio Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm tired to read discussion about forum is good or bad. Do you prefer phpBB or Invision ? personally i prefer the former. I couldn't care less about which system to choose, but I have one wish; make it as fast and usable as possible,

Re: Marketing... aGPS uses

Hello, On 7/21/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! That's a wonderful list you made! I have one doubt though - how well would that AGPS chip work, especially in buildings. I have Garmin GPS which does not get signal reception if anything is between it and GPS satellite so it

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

Sebastian Krause wrote: Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess asking for a forum -- NNTP gateway would be asking too much? No: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community Hey, that was very nifty indeed! Lets see if this is a two-way gateway as well

Re: OK, the forum is coming..

On 7/22/07, Valerio Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for ignorance but what are COGS ? building costs at FIC? An accounting term. Wikipedia is your friend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_goods_sold I had to look it up too... -- Regards, Torfinn

Re: [Fwd: Re: OK, the forum is coming..]

Hello, On 7/23/07, Valerio Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying gmane nntp interface to community list and it doesn't support thread! all messages are ordered just by date. So it's the same as reading the messages in own mailbox. Doh. Hmm, which newsreader are you using? I'm using

Re: Hear Me FIC

Hello, On 7/24/07, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hear_Me_FIC [... cut...] Appreciate your thoughts, I like it. Perhaps you should add a paragraph at the start that explains what the page is for, and if the priorities listed are the views / wishes of

Re: Anyone, not billed yet?

any word of the second batch, AFAIK (ordered it on 11 July, around 0500 hours GMT). Sorry folks, but when all the others are getting to play, hack and cuddle with the neo, I feel jealous and left alone =(. I feel the same way. :-) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen

Re: mailing list management

client do it (as I do with GMail), or change to a mail client that has proper support (ie reply to list). -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: gpsd and AGPS

os and software of course) be able to function as an assistance server? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Message duplicates (was: Changes between GTA1 and GTA2?)

e-mail, sms, whatever) HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Security in OpenMoko

/Hardware_Security_Module -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: NYTimes article regarding GPhone being an open-source alternative to Windows Mobile.

... Trolltech has already ported Qt (Qtopia?) to windowsCE[1] 1) http://www.osnews.com/story.php/18720/Trolltech-Ports-Qt-to-Windows-CE -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org

Re: Trolltech drops greenphone for OpenMoko (Neo)

/announcements/press.2007-10-21.0880321862 BTW, I am not associated with Trolltech in any way, but I considered the Greenphone before settling on the Neo1973. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen Norway ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community

Re: Gphone isn't open, linux dev not possible

19076 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Gphone isn't open, linux dev not possible

Hello, On Nov 22, 2007 2:00 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, I'm on Ubuntu 7.10 (i386). What do I need in addition to the loop module: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# losetup -v /dev/loop0 /home/tingo/work/openmoko/qtopia-rootfs.2-10020615

Re: SIM card read/write [was Re: SIM Card Copy]

capability. I doubt that I would have a need for multi sim capability. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Recent spam.

want to ask someone to deal with it, please contact the list administrator(s) off list. Have a nice day. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

use. I am hoping that any phone running OpenMoko will be much, much better in this area.. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Re[2]: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

:/ Easy to fix - leave it (boot scroll) as an option that can be turned on by the user, preferably in a geeky way involving shell and the virtual keyboard. :-) And we want the matrix screensaver too. :-) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ OpenMoko community

Re: Congratulations Harald!

- well deserved! -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

Hello, On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are roundabouts in tunnels an April fool? Never encountered one. No, roundabouts in tunnels are real - we even have one or two such tunnels here in Norway. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen Norway

Re: oredring the Freerunner as an research item

letter / note can be used for all cases, of course) Granted, I don't know how much overhead in packaging this would incur. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen Norway ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org

Re: oredring the Freerunner as an research item

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:27 PM, ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know, this holds true for many countries. I used to work Ok. Does anyone have an example of the text needed? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community

Europe: ordering Freerunner direct from Openmoko?

Hello, For us european users: will it be possible to order Frerunner directly from Openmoko? The way it looks now, this would be the most attractive solution from a cost point of view, at leat for us here in Norway. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen

Re: Thoughts about calls not taken

on. Anyway, that is what I wish for. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Thoughts about calls not taken

Hi, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Calling_Features has had all of these thoughts for some time. I know. :) But it helps writing them up here in the mailing list from time to time, so people don't forget them. :) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen

Re: Our new Main page of wiki

://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_mini -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Software

for a day or more that would work. :-) References: 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacron -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Freerunner on a Mac ...

. To test it, you can do 'kldload if_cdce', then see the man page. Last time I tested it, it worked without problems. References: 1) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=cdceapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASEformat=html -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen

Re: Android (Re: Qtopia Vs. GTK or both?)

(in no particular order) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: IGES STEP CAD file issues

://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProEngineer I couldn't find a trial / demo version, though. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GSoC projects

://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markov_model -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: why infrared should be added to GTA03

audio system control) Too bad that bluetooth is absent on most consumer devices today. But perhaps you could make something with bluetooth and IR blasters. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

FreeRunner - import Contacts

have various export possibilities (for example csv). -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: FreeRunner - import Contacts

desktop, but I'll see what I can find out. If anyone else knows the specific format used, feel free to inform me and others. :-) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman

Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]

. But device-owners is a place for more specific questions, and it has lower traffic which is good for getting answers quickly. Just my opinion. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: [Fwd: questions about our mailinglists]

, it depends on what information you want. If you skip device-owners, you miss a lot of specific information about the devices and software, and the testing that owners do. I find that useful enough that I invest the little time extra to read that mailinglist as well. YMMV, of course. -- Regards, Torfinn

Re: questions about our mailinglists

repeat: please do not mess with the subject lines! To see why, look at the list archives about a year back. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: questions about our mailinglists

, and even more for those participating in the discussion. -- Regards Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Better keyboard?

at the same time. Then I can change keyboards (using an extra key on the keyboard perhaps? Or a menu choice?) whenever I like. That would be nice. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: Presentation and some questions about flashing Freerunner

that if I didn't use sudo, I got that last error message. If so, it probably means that your normal user doesn't have access to all the needed parts of the usb subsystem on the machine wher you run dfu-util. I always use sudo (I'm on Ubuntu). HTH -- Regrds Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway

Re: Accessing the freerunner filesystem

. could probably copy it over to the flash card on the laptop, but that also means removing the battery and sim for every change. Yes, removing the microSD card is very inconvenient. Note for future devices: add a SD card slt that is easily accessible (extrnally?). -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen

Re: GPS

the GP board itself. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: In the press

good enough. Also remember that each and one of us can improve the wiki. Yes, you can do it yourself. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Got it!

side -) Owning an iPhone is a bad sign - you have too little ambition in life. :-) :):) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Any update on Windows connectivity yet?

drivers to communicate. The driver is just an .inf file to set up RNDIS networking. I used the procedure described here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_and_Windows see USB Ethernet emulation. It works both for my 1973 and FreeRunner. HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen

Re: Bluetooth long in the tooth?

]:~# cat /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

inside (it's raining), but on the SS screen of openmoko-agpsui I now have 13 (yes, thirteen) blue bars, most of them above 150 dBm. Before (with the SD card in) I never even had one blue bar on the ss screen. Great work discovering this. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

apartment (after getting a fix outside). Even Diversity works - nice. I am still using this image[1]. References: 1) http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080710/Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080710-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

) wiki - I simply add my comments to the discussion for that page. Then someone else can read it and do the edit of the actual page, if they feel that my comments / suggestions are good. Of course, this only works if somebody else actually reads the discussions for the pages... HTH -- Regards, Torfinn

Re: In the press

describe the tasks that the group do, list the names of the editors (and perhaps what period they acted in that role?) and so on Any volunteers now? Anyway, just an idea. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: In the press

else? We need a list of names so we can start firing this project I would be happy to just be a contributor. :-) But hey, I can spend a few hours every week on this task as well. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Wiki editors

Hi, On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:42 AM, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Shiloh wrote: +1 on [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 here Yes, this gets my vote too. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: Wiki editors

agreement (or not) on the following list: I agree. BTW, has anyone asked Brenda if she wants in on this? And have time for it? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

or that way of thinking. Pioneers are smart and positive people - anything is possible. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Problem in logging in freerunner through ssh

Hello, On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I keep the following command in my .bash_profile: alias ssg=ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o UserKnownHostsFile=/ dev/null Ah. That's very useful. Thanks for sharing! -- Regards Torfinn Ingolfsen

Re: Import contacts qtopia

Hello, On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Ole Kliemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: could be helpful if one were able to convert VCF to sqlite. Any hints appreciated. This one imports .CSV at least: http://sqlitebrowser.sourceforge.net/ HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen

Re: USB connector not Mini-AB?

. See http://www.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Package_Contents HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

work that way - ie there is no shut off SD card while we do something else procedure. Instead the SD card is shut off (ie. clock disabled) when it is idle. So as long as you avoid reading from or writing to the SD card you should be fine. HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen

Re: FreeBSD / dfu-util

would like to be able to run both dfu-util and the Openmoko development environment under FreeBSD. Just because it sjuold be possible. :-) HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

FR - ASU image - keyboard with wrong characters

, really miss a backspace key on this keyboard. References: 1) http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080710/Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080710-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen

Re: FR - ASU image - keyboard with wrong characters

More info. On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, today I did a 'opkg update' followed by a 'opkg upgrade'. The upgrade went fine, and I rebooted my FR. I repeated 'opkg update' and 'opkg upgrade' The upgrade part produced some errors, but I don't

Re: FR - ASU image - keyboard with wrong characters

Hello, On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Johny Tenfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I really, really miss a backspace key on this keyboard. Click some key and drag to left - it should work as backspace key. On the keyboard? any key? I just can't seem to get that to work. I click down on a

Re: FR - ASU image - keyboard with wrong characters

Hi, On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Ole Kliemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can work around this by running `opkg upgrade -force-overwrite'. Thanks, I'll try that. But besides this, for me the latestes ASU version has no keyboard at all. Already posted this on the support list. So as long

Re: FR - ASU image - keyboard with wrong characters

Hello, On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe this is a known bug: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1533 It occurs when the USB cable is plugged in, try removing the USB and see if the keyboard starts working correctly. Hmm, a bit too late

Re: FR - ASU image - keyboard with wrong characters

Hello, On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe this is a known bug: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1533 It occurs when the USB cable is plugged in, try removing the USB and see if the keyboard starts working correctly. I was able to

Re: FreeBSD / dfu-util

Hello, On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have you got libusb somewhere? OSX needs it too, btw .. libusb is available in ports on FreeBSD: http://www.freshports.org/devel/libusb/ HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen

Re: Why is Qtopia much faster?

the heck are you developing for a 'free your phone' phone? http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-not-lgpl.html People, this discussion has turned _very_ off topic now. Could you all please take further discussion on this subject in a place where it is more on topic? Thank you. -- Regards, Torfinn

Re: What is Exposure?

of poking around to find the up-to-date ASU repositories there and update the opkg feed configs. Thanks for sharing. This is _very_ useful. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: ASU Keyboard yet again

Hello, On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: simarillion wrote: Thank you, it works fine, but how can I switch to the full keyboard which has not only the letters? Do I need an additional package? Drag your finger upwards (or downwards) and you'll cycle

Re: gpsd not in ASU repository?

/ Preferences? TangoGPS seems to have a lot more options for things. Diversity lacks tracking, AFAICT. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: What is Exposure?

to use your phone as a phone again you?will have to restart Qtopia.? qpe It looks the same after a restart. HmmI wonder if this is related? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

ASU updated - qpe not working?

Hello, I have just upgraded to the most updated ASU, by pointing opkg at http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/ using Michael Sheldon's instructions from another thread in this list. I really like the read battary charging indicator. :-) But when I do 'ps ax | more' I see this:

Re: ASU updated - qpe not working?

More info. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really like the read battary charging indicator. :-) Oops... red - red battery indicator. :) How do I restart qpe? Therer doesn't seems to be a script for that in /etc/init.d When I try to restart qpe

Re: ASU updated - qpe not working?

Hello, On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: phone work correctly again. But I'm not sure if your current problem is being caused by that, or whether it's a completely separate problem. think the kernel whic got installed is the right one: [EMAIL

Re: What is Exposure?

to http://docs.openmoko.org.??To be able to use your phone as a phone again you?will have to restart Qtopia.? qpe 1349 ?Sl 0:44 qpe 1548 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep qpe -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: ASU updated - qpe not working?

More info. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, a cuple of restars and it seems to work now. Phew! But qpe still crashes / fails: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps ax | grep qpe 1346 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/app-restarter The qpe process vanished

opkg tries to install package with wrong arch? (Was: What is Exposure?)

SmartPhones shipping w/ Openmoko Why? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: FR and iPhone - how can they be compared?

a custom irrigation solution I build on my roof using earth boxs, and the sends the data back to the FR for alerting and monitoring. Interesting. Is therer a web page for this project somewhere? Are you using a BT Arduino, or a custom bluetooth adapter? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen

Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?

yet, still working on that. This is just a couple of examples of what I do with my FR. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: list subscription question

but I don't like it getting mixed up with my regular mail. Have you selected skip inbox on those filters? That works nicely for me. (I use a separate label for each list I am subscribed to. HTH -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community

Re: opkg tries to install package with wrong arch? (Was: What is Exposure?)

Hello, On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 12:56 AM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems there are no om-gta02 kernel packages on downloads; as such I've updated the feeds config at http://www.mikeasoft.com/~mike/opkg-asu.tar.gz to include the buildhost om-gta02 repository, and I'm now

Re: opkg tries to install package with wrong arch? (Was: What is Exposure?)

On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Michael Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you check that you now have a file called /etc/opkg/om-gta02-daily-feed.conf? Yes, I have that file: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ll /etc/opkg drwxr-xr-x2 root root0 Jul 26 12:31 ./ drwxr-xr-x 49

'hwclock' not working? (ASU)

Hello, I'm running ASU on my FR. It seems that something is broken or missing for the 'hwclock' command to work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jul 23 08:50:28 CST 2008 armv4tl unknown [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# hwclock --systohc hwclock: can't

Re: list subscription question

Hello, On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Yochai Gal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I did do that --- but it still show's up in All Mail. Oh, I see. I always use the Inbox for reading new mail. After that I read each label for the various mailing lists that I'm subscribed to. -- Regards,

Re: 'hwclock' not working? (ASU)

Hello, On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Holger Freyther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: write the current time into the rtc then you have to write W\n into /var/spool/at/trigger. Like this: echo W\n /var/spool/at/trigger Or is th '\n' not needed in that case? I have already updated the wiki, and

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