frameworkd and phonefsod are updated. So your next report would be
based on git head ;)
ah, thanks!
however, it does not change the problem, below the output of a normal
startup (init 3).
note, that nothing else is printed when shutting down by doing init 2 --
looks, like phonefsod freezes
note, that nothing else is printed when shutting down by doing init 2 --
looks, like phonefsod freezes somehow?
it doesn't freeze -- it dies.
most recent log of phonefsod (last lines):
2010.01.23 14:07:40.886422 [phonefsod] DEBUG: _request_resource_callback()
2010.01.23 14:07:42.854920
within normal operation (runlevel) phonefsod does not work predicatble.
small changes in the phonefsod.conf made it stop entirely (w/o any useful
info in the log despite DEBUG) and small changes in eg fsodeviced seemed
to fix that ...
what looks far more confusing to me is, that phonefsod
only changed in opimd and a small fix for ogpsd since then.
a link to the changelog?
This will most probably not fix your problem!
that's quite possible, i added the remark only i case the issue was
related to differences in frameworkd between the one debian uses and the
shr one (since
And why are not promoting its packages in the repository debiana?
because they are inofficially patched ones.
i guess i could send an enhancement request to increase the timeout by
default, but i am pretty surer it will be denied.
imo, it would be far better to have dbus read the timeout from
did you check the partition table of the sd card with (c)fdisk either
after booting from flash or in another computer?
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Try pyphonelog, it reads the call history from opimd.
the one currently in pkg-fso seems unable to cope with the format opimd
delivers, but the one in the shr feeds works better.
better meaning, it does not start by default due to
$ phonelog
/usr/bin/phonelog:758: Warning: 'with' will become a
And another failing strcmp :P (The segfaults I reported so far where
strcmp caused, too). I just checked the source. I guess you have a
contact with an empty Name field. Can you check
[1] /etc/freesmartphone/opim/csv-contacts.txt for such contacts?
indeed there where a few. replacing it with
That's just python2.6 syntax, and you're using python2.5. I'll try to
look tommorow to make pyphonelog compatible with python2.5,
the one from pkg-fso has exactly the same two lines and python does not
complain.
ah, I'm sorry I forgot to upload the patched package. I didn't
notice so far,
checking for blkid_get_cache in -lblkid... no
configure: error: external blkid library not found
FATAL: oe_runconf failed
The strange thing is that if I try to launch the previous command from
the console works, but the bitbake gives me an error. (Maybe because
the three dots in the end)
Tell me please, I understand that debian lags behind the progress? Old
frameworkd etc
well, yes. the fso stack lags somewhat behind in at least some of its
parts, but work is still going on.
the old kernel without the new drivers for glamo,
the kernel should be interchangeable between
I think it could be just historical. Nowadays, you should act the same
regardless of the gender of the person you're talking to or about except
in some situations. At least in a perfect world, where a
worker/colleague of either gender is considered the same value.
what exactly has one's
I experience a very bad suspend battery life after I started using the
faster kernel. Even when I make sure gps, gsm, wifi are turned off. Has
anyone noticed this? Or maybe something else is causing this?
i got the impression that bluetooth is always on (illume top shelf always
shows the bt
information and post it somewhere (pastebin or such).
Tried to wake arne anka
uh?
(dbus timeout etc), but without success.
if you mean, you installed those three dbus packages from my site -- i
patched zhone additionally with one of neil's patches which makes the pin
dialog popup until finally
what exactly has one's value to do with the gender or the pronoun you
are
using to refer to him or her?
your proposition is based on the assumption that one gender is less
valueable than the other, hence, using the male or female pronoun
would
express a judgement.
In different
I'm using timo's .29 faster kernel. I had the gsm not registering with
this kernel using fso-abyss. Somehow, in my case (though I've has #1024
and
buzz fix applied) using gsm0710muxd always works.
fso-abyss is very temperamental - but sometimes starts working all of a
sudden.
no such
AFAIK, German has a neutral gender in addition to masculine and
feminine, but I know even less about German than Spanish.
german neutral pronoun es is very similar to english it (and not only
etymologically), ie it is only used for nouns not being either mal or
female (and diminutives like
neo:~# dpkg -i yaouh_0.5.1.4_all.opk
Selecting previously deselected package yaouh.
(Reading database ... 15461 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking yaouh (from yaouh_0.5.1.4_all.opk) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of yaouh:
yaouh depends on
What distro are you using that has no ar?
I'm using QtMoko v16b
unmodified image, i guess?
as last resort you may fetch the binutils armel package from any debian
repository and extract ar from it on another computer.
according to ldd on my x86 right now it needs
$ ldd /usr/bin/ar
And I can't see
the need for gender-specific pronouns at all.
well, since a lot of (most?) languages have those, there's certainly a
need for that :-)
So if someone says something about one certain person and you don't
know who is he/she talking about and if that person is male or female,
shh freerunner
$ export DISPLAY=:0.0
$ gdb phoneuid
# run
# bt
here's what i get when starting phoneui-contacts. besides the actual crash
there seems to be an issue with the log file -- i don't find where it is
defined, but it is set to /var/log/phoneuid.log ... and per default
the new package brought the shr idle screen which shows XX calls and YY
sms -- that reminds of onen question:
sms do i see with the messages app, but where do i see the calls?
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you can simply do
dpkg -i foo.ipk
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after today's update of libphone-ui*, the gui of contacts, dialer,
messages and pin dialog looks ok.
thanks to whoever is responsible.
so i used the not so recently posted script [1] to import my contacts from
an vcf file into opimd -- but after that, contacts crashes immediately
without
in /etc/phoneuid.conf set log_level to DEBUG
that has been my first thought -- no dice.
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Can you check what is actually crashing? The framework? phoneuid? I
will update the framework later. There were some changes in opimd
since the last Debian package.
actually, it really seems to be only the contacts app itself. messages and
dialer come up fine, but once i hit in dialer the
I have no sign of ar6000 either - i.e. 'find /lib/modules -name
ar6*' gives no results, and 'lsmod' doesn't mention ar6000. But my
wifi is working all the same. I guess that means it's built into
Timo's kernel.
well, that's what i checked the config for ... and while looking for the
link
every time after switching to a runlevel w/o X there's still one process
left:
/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/battery/linux-gnueabi-arm-ver-svn-05/batget
64
and it's not even reused when restarting X, but a new one will be created.
i am pretty sure, even that process has to be killed when
after upgrading to timo's improved kernel a few days ago, i'd like to test
wlan again -- but can't recall the exact steps.
doing
qdbus --system org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage
org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy WiFi enabled
does not change anything apparently and
Does that help at all?
not really :-)
looks, like the neither the modules nor the kernel itself do contain the
ar6000 driver necessary ...
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looks, like the neither the modules nor the kernel itself do contain the
ar6000 driver necessary ...
--
You have to load 2 modules to enable wifi - s3cmci and ar6000.
as stated above, at least ar6000 is simply missing.
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after todays upgrade teh fr does not any longer suspend after the defined
timeout.
instead the log shows some (to me) new messages, of which i am not sure,
inhowfar they are related.
several messages like
no plugin: factory function not found in module module 'oeventsd.parser'
from
phonefsod should be started as root IIRC (and it should do that by
default with init script).
that's, what the error was from.
in the included system.d/ file i changed user=default to
context=default and the issue went away.
but since after the last upgrade of my debian, frameworkd now
looking into phonefsod.conf i see, that it duplicates already existing fso
configuration:
- brighness
- dim
- idle_screen
- suspend
none of the above strikes me as especially particular to the _phone_
functionality -- in fact, imo they heavily interfere with settings made
elsewhere in
Such questions about SHR apps should be asked on the shr-devel
mailinglist,
sounds good in theory -- in praxis it means to subscribe to yet another
list just to pose a few question once in a very long while, but getting a
lot of mails i am not interested in.
As far as i know phonefsod
hi,
just installed the phoneui-apps and phonefsod -- but phonefsod seems to
have some problem:
[phonefsod] WARNING: Unable to register service: Connection :1.14 is not
allowed to own the service
is shr still using root as default user?
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for an hour or so i run an update and after the reboot (just to make a
clean start), frameworkd segfaults.
even with DEBUG the log only shows (last lines)
2010.01.10 00:47:16.729 opimdINFO Registered backend
SIM-Contacts-FSO
2010.01.10 00:47:16.739 opimd
I think you're now confusing free software with freeware. Free
software app has to be open source (but not in opposite way -
freeware and open source apps not always are free software)
huh?
since when and who made that decision?
for all i know, the line goes between open source and free.
open
the term free software was coined in or before 1989, when the GPLv1 was
published by the free software foundation [1].
a) the group free software is nothing but a combination of an adjective
and a substantive, the adjective qualifying the substantive
b) qualifying a substantive with free has
Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone?
yes
Do you use FR as your primary PDA?
yes
What distribution you run most of the time?
debian
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sounds like a bug in nthe underlying python library.
i'd try to track down the line of my code where it happens and check
google for any reports regarding the python code called.
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i applied those patches right now.
so far the pin dialog appears twice: once before powerring on antenna and
once afterwards.
if the second pin dialog is canceled, the phone button stays disabled.
i i put in the pin even the second time all the stuff supposed to happen
after that runs again,
This is great news - but it is surprising that it needs a change to
the dbus code. Isn't there a way to configure the default dbus
timeout, or to set it for particular methods? From googling I've
found hints that adding timeout=100 to the relevant method call
might work - but unfortunately
hi,
after hours of struggling with debian's djungle of ways to build a package
i finally succeeded to cross compile dbus with an increased timeout.
reason: for months now i was fighting with zhone taking several attempts
(4 to 5 ususally, often at least one restart of frameworkd and sometimes
If you already have the vector data you doesn't need the bitmap data
anymore because you can render the displayed map directly from these
data. That is what navit already does and therefor a combination of
vector and bitmap data makes no sense. It would make the data redundant
and more
i strongly discourage the use of t9 in the name.
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Btw, if you are interested having a 3D case, just shoot me an email, and
what kind of 3d case? it would be awesome to get an fr case that already
includes the controller (maybe simply the back?).
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not to belittle the effort -- but in what respect will it be different
from navit?
would it be worth a consideration to use navit's engine, maybe improving
it and add a new efl based interface?
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3g chips are not the same as gsm chips -- but newer phones do use chips
that do 3g, too.
the fr is _not_ capable of 3g and will never be -- except you add a dongle
via usb.
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After a reboot, it stucks, saying:
Unknown boot option `g-ether.host_addr=00:1F:11:01:0B:A3`: ignoring
that messages i of no importance. usually you don't see it or it flashes
only through.
it looks like the kernel or rather the root filesystem is not found,
making the bootloader unable to
I've never seen this bug befor on my phone.
So is this some kind of #1024, so it coul be fixed with a larger
capacitor?
sounds like the issue i was experiencing for weeks now with more recent
fso-usaged, although with zhone. not sure if it is related to zhone or fso.
my workaround was to use
yes but, which logs??? Maybe two brains (or more) are better than
one (tired... i'm going to sleep).
configure a log file in /etc/frameworkd.conf and check that. there're some
example-like lines at the top of that file.
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did you ever change the gsmhandset.state file after applied buzz fix?
the tracker links to an improved file specifically tuned for buzz fixed
devices and so far used by a lot of peoples.
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seeing the rather sleek design of the wikireader, i wonder if someone has
proceeded (and succeeded at) creating a new case for the freerunner?
there were several postings in the beginning and swiss telecom had a
project going on with dummies or even prototypes -- but then all went
silent.
I really like this idea. If some event happens (such as a received SMS,
missed call, etc), use the accelerometers to see if the phone is moved
for
some number of seconds afterward. If not, then configure them to wake
the
phone the next time it is moved before going into suspend. When
I am still using the Om that came pre-installed (should I flash SHR?).
if that is still the 2007.x flavour -- update by all means!
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basically it should be possible, to write a rule for oeventsd in
rules.yaml (incoming sms should be an event supported).
if not, you could opimd-cli and do something like
opimd-cli messages query MessageRead 0 | grep Numer of results: | awk
'{print $4}'
which would print the number of unread
a while ago there were some posts about making kernel 2.6.3x available,
because it needs far less patches and improves amongst others power saving.
but now that kernel 2.6.31 is out for a while, no one ever mentioned
anything.
so, simple question: how's the state of the new kernel? anybody
what do I need to install
python-gobject
i'd say
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I also use LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 and got the wrong position in navit but i
haven't set LC_ALL. So what settings/vars should i change to get navit
working in german and with correct position? :)
what does
locale
return?
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It returns:
LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_TIME=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_NAME=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=de_DE.UTF-8
purposes)? It's just happened so that English became an
internationally understood way of communication, what is the benefit
in trying so hard to do something to alter that?
- english wikipedia does not cover all topics
- different languages provide different quality of articles
- because
However I find it a bit miss-placed between the other PDAs as they
PDA Handheld -- and btw: who makes the charts makes the categories :-)
still under the impression that the other devices are fairly outdated.
looks like all time top 100 -- the sheer number of devices sold seems to
count.
I have tried two cards on FR:
Kingston C4 8 GB
Kingston SDC4/8GB 07
I don't recommend this one.
hadn't much kuck with kingston either.
i use an 8g sandisk, listed in the wiki.
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Where did you get the libgee1 package from?
well, i'd say, it never went away. as long as there are dependencies on
it, upgrade won't remove it.
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:30:30 +0200, Niels Heyvaert
nielsheyva...@hotmail.com wrote:
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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K=F6nnen Sie auf English antworten=2C
Help me, please, its thunderbird 2.0.23
i often click on reply, but there is a reply-to header to the list.
and in other cases there is the list as cc: in it, there is needed to
click reply all
depends on the lust, you'rte replying to and the relgious belief of the
list's maintainer:
I guess you could make a .tar.gz of your rootfs, though...
maybe i could -- but it will be several gb in size. how would i make that
available.
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For any book that really is text only (for example all those Project
Gutenberg books that are simple ASCII text files) all you have to do is
create a wiki page on a wiki and dump the text onto the page.
i still don't really understand that focus on wiki.
is it hardcoded into the reader?
i'd
started fso-frameworkd and tried to register with zhone.
from frameworkd.log:
2009.10.19 14:59:20.313 ophoned.protocol INFO creating protocol GSM
2009.10.19 14:59:20.497 frameworkd.resource INFO setting resource
status for GSM from disabled to enabling
2009.10.19 14:59:21.927
well, after a few retries i was able to register. now suspend/resume shows
exactly the second issue.
i press power to suspend, which seems to happen, but almost immediately
the fr comes back.
no output in frameworkd.log, but zhone log shows:
2009-10-19 15:21:32,267 INFO INPUT EVENT = POWER,
next update:
the immediate resume seems to be related to an incomplete sms i got
recently. deleting the sms at least leaves the fr in suspend.
but apparently the gsm resource is not resumed accordingly when resuming
the fr:
# mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
fsousaged. Apparantly something gets wrong along the code path. Please
give me a link to the very image you have been testing this with, so I
can try to reproduce this problem.
no image, as there are no debian images.
fso-packages are the most recent of debian and the sources of these should
How did you ever get it to work in the first place? I noticed the
Debian
package appearing and installed it, but never found all of the required
documentation to actually use it:
i don't remember exactly, but i think the only change was setting the
muxer to fso-abyss in
after the latest debian updates, my fr loses connection to network after
suspending (or rather resuming).
i cant' call and looking into the tower info tab of zhone i get
MCC/MNC: 262/03
Serving Cell: N/A
restarting zhone (and being able to register) solves that -- until the
next suspend/resume.
try the other muxer, gsmwhatsitsname, instead.
to me it seems, fso-abyss has detoriated into almost unusability over the
last months.
when is started with it, month ago, it worked flawlessly, after doing an
update to a more recent version of fso in july/august, zhone had issues
requesting
Wow, that'd be quite an achiement considering that I didn't do any
development on it. Note that it still works flawlessly here. Perhaps
software these days starts to rot, just as organic material ;)
well, debian's release cycle is somewhat detached from upstream.
i don't know when you did any
I didn't notice your message until I did a web search on opimd zhone.
Did you
publish your path?
no, i didn't.
due to some stability issues with zhone/fso (after some restarts zhone was
unable to connect to gsm unless restartting frameworkd, and after a while
not even then but only after
the fr was designed with the outspoken idea of finger friendliness, or
rather, only to be operated by finger only.
while the idea as such sounds appealing, for a lot of people it is not
really the way to go:
- as you said, stylus is far more precise
- stylus allows more efficient use of screen
following the wiki i started navit with
fsoraw -r Display,CPU navit
nevertheless, the display went blank after the idle timeout defined in
frameworkd.conf.
since the fr was connected via usb, it would not suspend, thus i don't
know if at least requesting the cpu would have worked.
simple
Did you set USB charge current to 500mA? If device which you are
connecting can't ennumerate USB connection, Neo will charge with only
100mA
No, it will try to charge with 1000 mA. This is a bug.
well, didn't here, though the gum pro is capable of 1000mA output.
Charging from only 100mA explains oscillating. Check if sysfs paths in
opp are up to date with your kernel. Unfortunatelly there is no dbus
call in FSO for that yet.
Add me a ticket and I'll do it when I'm back from holidays.
http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/480
on a related note: which one is the right, now?
Linux debian-gta02 2.6.29-20090702.gitd1c828aa #1 PREEMPT Fri Jul 24
22:35:01 UTC 2009 armv4tl GNU/Linux
/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-mbc/usb_curlim
or
/sys/class/power_supply/ac/device/usb_curlim
both show different values.
i'm just checking out enlightenment with illume theme and am very confused
about the icons shown on the desktop (launcher).
i am sure there has to be a setting where the apps to be listed are
selectebale -- and yet, in the rather confusing settings (top shelf -
wrench) i don't find anything.
I'm pretty sure Illume does not have support for categories or the
ability to hide apps (especially not through a menu).
Workarounds:
If you delete the .desktop file from /usr/share/applications/, it
won't be displayed.
If your .desktop file doesn't contain Type=Application, I don't think
I think that selection dialog is for the enlightenment menu or
something. It
has no effect on what apps appear on the illume launcher as far as I can
tell.
uhm.
what exactly is the relationship between e and illume?
i always thought they were an item, so to speak.
Exclude Filenameopenmoko-panel-plugin.desktop/Filename /Exclude
line.
[1] http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html
ookaaay.
sounds, hm, usable :-)
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this weekend i kinda got lost (still no, which direction to go, but not
sure, which street to chose).
thinking, it would be agreat occasion to test navit's navigation again i
fired it up and there the tale ends.
navit came up alright, but it was slw. at a point very early it
i just bought an external battery, just mobile gum pro (4400 mAh,Input
(Mini USB): 5VDC 500mA Min; output (USB Type A Port): 5VDC 1000mA) to keep
the fr alive even when using gps hours on end.
last night i tried to load the fr, when starting the fr was at 48% --
after 11h it was at 69%.
Did you set USB charge current to 500mA? If device which you are
connecting can't ennumerate USB connection, Neo will charge with only
100mA - and running system eats something about 200mA.
the opp battery view offers thre buttons for 100/500/1000 mA, i hit all
three time or another -- no
Charging from only 100mA explains oscillating.
ah. ok, then.
Check if sysfs paths in
opp are up to date with your kernel. Unfortunatelly there is no dbus
call in FSO for that yet.
heck, i thought, there were.
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ok. at least it seems not to be a local (configuration) issue.
i switched back to Xglamo untiol further notice.
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since the update today, frameworkd soon after starting zhone simply
disappears (no error, no log entry, it's just gone).
while trying to figure out what happens, i saw the error below. i have no
idea, if it is related:
_processElement()
got an element from the queue
Traceback (most recent
well, here's the real mccoy:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/patterns/tasklet.py, line
178, in send
value = self.generator.send(value)
File
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/framework/subsystems/opimd/pimb_sim_messages_fso.py,
line
If posted to community@lists.openmoko.org, information may be not seen by
relevant people.
well, imo community has the biggest chance to be read by the relevant
people.
frinst i am not sure, if the issue at hand is confined to debian (fixed in
most recent fso git or whatever) and if other
community@ is a bit high-traffic, don't you find so ;-)
no doubt about that -- but then again: you catched, didn't you ;-)
a matter like incomplete unicode handling is no doubt relevant for
upstream too, so what would be the best course of action?
- simply doing reportbug?
- posting only
Unfortunatelly there is no dbus call in FSO for that yet.
ok, looking deeper, i have to echo something into /sys/... -- but the file
is rw for root only.
is there an easy, non-hackish way to set the rw for normal users, too?
all tools/scripts listed in the wiki seem to presume using the fr as
Or you could install aptitude and use aptitude search. aptitude search
vi
will list all the packages and descriptions involving vi.
aptitude is rather an overkill -- and
aptitude search foo
returns a result far more confusing than helpful.
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could any of the shr developers, reading here, please have a look and
forward the information if needed?
recently sebastian reichel made ophonekitd available for debian.
while it worked the first times i tried (saying
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