Aditya Gandhi ha scritto:
Yes please some screenshots
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi
mailto:ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
34sec bootup time sound's incredible compared to all other
distros, WELL DONE!!
Are there any screenshots available?
Brolin Empey wrote:
djdas wrote:
What's next: who knows :P we're hardly working to achieve a stable phone
system, there are lots of programs in our OE buildsys but we haven't
provided a package manager yet (there is a script to simply install ipk
packages in /opt/bin/ipkmgr.sh
Neil Jerram wrote:
On 6 March 2010 22:24, djdas dj...@djdas.net wrote:
As the team leader of the Neophysis Dev Team I'm proud to announce you a
new distribution for our loved(?) Freerunner.
Well, of course it will be great to have another choice for the FR, if
it is rock-solid
Ed Kapitein wrote:
Hi Djdas,
Thanks for the new FR software.
I did try it just yet and ran into some problems.
Where am i supposed to put the software? SD card? Nand? doesn;t matter?
I put it on the Nand and flashed the kernel to Nand as well, but it
doesn't boot at all.
I'm sorry
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
djdas dj...@djdas.net writes:
Honestly we didn't try GPRS functions yet, because we focused on the
phone part for the Armeniacum release, although oFono team implemented
the GPRS functions and the Calypso plugin already works with
multiplexing, so I assume
(in
alphabetical order):
- Arus (GUI, Development)
- Djdas (me :) Development, System Engineering)
- LeOS (System Engineering)
- Monto (Development)
- Nicola.mfb (GUI, Development, Brainfuc*ing :D)
- Nippi (Kernel building, Development)
Thank you very much to the Telefoninux Italian community for the ideas
ri...@happyleptic.org wrote:
The problem is : on the freerunner we merely need something to display some
simple widgets, scroll the screen smoothly (because on a small display you
always need to scroll) and be reactive to user finger pressures. If E, because
of an ambitious design, is unable
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
with linux i'm not lumping in uclinux, elks, etc. as they do come under
different names :) notice.. i included desktop... and at least i'd hope to
imply that would be the desktop he speaks of... ie how great compiz is and so
much better than e17. :)
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
well.. you're telling the one that wrote the graphics code, that has read the
glamo hw docs, has worked on it long before freerunner was on sale, who has
written graphics code for many platforms, manye cpus of many varying levesl of
speed (from 7mhz 68k
Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
DJDAS a écrit :
ri...@happyleptic.org wrote:
The problem is : on the freerunner we merely need something to display some
simple widgets, scroll the screen smoothly (because on a small display you
always need to scroll) and be reactive to user finger pressures
Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
No.
From the user point of view, a recipe :
- take SHR or Om2009
- put a simple theme instead of the default one
- notice it's very fast
Where is the part with the user who cannot use this or that ?
That as Raster correctly said, default is something that
Cedric BAIL wrote:
Man, what didn't you understand in: YOU SHOULD WRITE A THEME THAT
DON'T USE THAT MUCH FANCY STUFF ? ? The EFL are fast and optimised,
but you should adapt the theme to what you ask. So write a theme that
look like QtMoko and I bet you will have at least the same speed (My
Cedric BAIL wrote:
So either you have something like QtMoko without fancy stuff, and it
will be faster, or you have some fancy effect, but slower fps. That's
it. You can cry, you can yell, it will not be possible to do something
more than that. Yes, it is frustrating, but the world is like
Davide Scaini wrote:
DJDAS i share some thoughts with you ideed... but: this is a
community, why don't you share your work?
Simply because ATM our work (it's not ONLY mine but we are a team of
about 10 people) it's not more than a simple prototype, we are hardly
working but obviously in our
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
But I will. Creating Illume themes and even redesigning it completely
is easier than for Qt or GTK+. I tried it (i'm author of Niebiee
theme), so I know :P
Really, you're annoying.
Sorry
other people, I don't agree with Raster and SHR maintainers simply
Bernd Prünster ha scritto:
DJDAS wrote:
FDOM uses illume, the launcher is efl, the settings app is efl...
strange world we live in...
Yes I know, thank you :) but since then I noticed new versions were
slower than the one I have, so maybe FDOM guys or that libraries version
was more
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
Also, I installed Qtv14 (thanks to Radek for that distribution), and
that I see? I is fast enought, scrolls fast, react fast, and so on. So,
scrolling is different in qt. it is a simple blit. in efl it's a redraw. efl
is
very much like GL. you
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
you show and immense amount of knowledge here, both of the hardware, of
software and graphics in general. i'm amazed. i shall take your advice as you
obviously are someone of massive experience. i see that people reporting that
its faster and better on a
Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
I beg to differ, your personal experience is not mine (E17 being damn
fast comparing to xfce). E17 is fuck**g fast on limited hardware.
World is beautiful because it's various ;)
I think you miss the point :
- qtmoko/qtopia is pretty because of good skin and good
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
well as i said. it works fine and fluidly on many other devices.
Even Windows Vista works fine and fluidly on 3000$ desktops this doesn't
mean it's optimized ;)
but.. if i were smart.. i'd not develop apps for the freerunner. it's a dead
product. it has
Laszlo KREKACS ha scritto:
Lets count the elementary apps here. How many of them written for the
Freerunner?
Sad true: almost all usable elementary app are written for the Freerunner.
I think in a year or so we will grow out the Freerunner. But until
then there is a lot
of small
Christophe M wrote:
Hi guys !
I don't want to feed the troll but lets compare what's comparable ...
You compare Qt framebuffer with E over Xorg ... In one case you have a
Xorg who is running in the other it's directly accessed ...
Not true, because if Raster was right the only problem would
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
Because Linux doesn't sucks on an 8086 ;) because Linux is well
designed, is scalable, is optimized and can run even on a 8086...Desktop
i think you just illustrated my point where i don't think you know what you
are
talking about. an intel
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:51:48 +0100 DJDAS dj...@djdas.net said:
Christophe M wrote:
Hi guys !
I don't want to feed the troll but lets compare what's comparable ...
You compare Qt framebuffer with E over Xorg ... In one case you have
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra ha scritto:
I don't care if that code breaks the GPL or not, what I care is that
is 2% too much proprietary software because it's 2% VERY IMPORTANT
software.
Even 2% of Freerunner code is proprietary (Calypso and Wifi and it's
VERY IMPORTANT too) why do we have to
Warren Baird ha scritto:
hey all,
As I (and others) mentioned in the recent OM2009 thread - One of the
great advantages of SHR is that it is being developed so quickly.
However, I'd also say that one of the great *DIS*advantages of SHR is
that it's being developed so quickly that it's
arne anka ha scritto:
Additionally I get Mails from that list with subject:
� VIAGRA � Official Site
openmokoder-commits-ow...@projects.openmoko.org
to what address do you get that spam?
faking the from-header is widely used -- i get a lot of spam sent
allegedly from my address.
arne anka ha scritto:
Pending posts:
From: bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org on Wed Jul 29 17:47:15 2009
Subject: Dear bluemoko-comm...@projects.openmoko.org 76% 0FF on Pfizer !
Cause: Post by non-member to a members-only list
so? what part don't you understand?
the usual kind
arne anka ha scritto:
No, this seems a mail generated from the versioning system who alerts me
of a pending commit request not a common spamming message.
???
nothing's easier than spoofing the sent-from. just because it says it is
sent from something-commits does in no way mean, it
Joerg Lippmann ha scritto:
When will that be? When the device is completely obsolete?
Please see below...
Sorry, but after a year of waiting I still have an expensive brick that I can
neither use as a proper phone (speaker still WAY to low, too unstable, too
slow, too battery-hungry) nor
Paul Fertser ha scritto:
The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com writes:
Paul said that the connection for bluetooth runs straight from one chip to
the other, without really
involving ALSA at all. Is there a way we can make it involve ALSA, since
bluetooth works perfectly
through
Paul Fertser ha scritto:
DJDAS dj...@djdas.net writes:
Consider I didn't change anything in my distro (kernel, packages, libs,
etc) but there were cases of both working (to be honest the Nokia one
worked only two times and it isn't broken as I use it with my Nokia cell
phone in some
FINALLY :) Thumbs up!
arne anka ha scritto:
any chance you fight that out somewhere else?
the discussions about the prefered posting style (and no, there's no
rule!) is as old as the internet -- and both positions still live and kick.
that can only mean one thing:
for both prefs good
Al Johnson ha scritto:
On Tuesday 16 June 2009, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
True.. new ideas needed..
Block icon in one colour with a thin border in another colour.
Capturing background color and filling the button with the inverse one?
Bye!
Laszlo KREKACS ha scritto:
So inserting a nokia BL-5C battery is not complete solution. (because it lacks
the coulomb counter), and freerunner cant charge it (currently)
Not true, I asked my colleague to recharge my BL-5C battery with his FR
while using my old Nokia some days ago and it
c_c ha scritto:
Hi,
The Digital Pioneer wrote:
AFAIK, the only way to do it is to run mplayer with -ao
alsa:device=bluetooth
Ok. But what would be the best of doing so from intone :-
1. I stop the current process from Intone
2. Start new process with the -ao flag
Or
OpenMitko ha scritto:
Hi to all,
Sorry if this is out of topic.
I want to ask those of you who already use a2dp, how is the sound
quality? I tried to use my Neo as media player wit wired headsets, but
it was almost a disaster, intone is great but the sound quality is
bad. Not only the
Michael Sheldon ha scritto:
DJDAS wrote:
It's very simple: you have to pair to the device and create a .asoundrc
file in $HOME.
Personally I don't think this should be implemented in intone, this
sort of system-wide activity should be handled by FSO (and I believe
there is work
Giovanni ha scritto:
You forgot Slackware, with ArmedSlack:
http://www.armedslack.org/
:)
Sorry for my ignorancebut either in the wiki or ML I read about this
distro and subscribed to the armedslack ML but there is no place where
Freerunner is considered to run it, can someone point me
Sean holmes ha scritto:
neovento 5 has the same bug as last time. The gprs ui has to few
spaces to enter you APN sever name. keep up the good work.
Could you please use a larger font as yours is unreadable? Thank you :D
Bye!
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Openmoko
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) ha scritto:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
2) Therefore we plan to offer this service to all Openmoko owners
within the EU harmonized market / tax union (to avoid re-import/export
hassle). Please note that there will be a rework fee. The final price
is not
Paul Fertser ha scritto:
DJDAS dj...@djdas.net writes:
Franky Van Liedekerke ha scritto:
Framework already supports BT headsets. The fact GUI is missing shows
the lack of interest from end-users, well, i think it'll change soon.
hmm ... I thought end-users were
Dear list,
this is for announcing the first beta release of BlueMoko, a PyGTK GUI
handler for the bluetooth stack.
ATM the program handles powering on/off, mode setting (visible,
invisible, connectable), scanning for devices and pairing (with PIN too)
but only with headset devices (pc,
Paul Fertser ha scritto:
Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be writes:
And BTW, FSO-based distros should now support bluetooth headsets out
of the box, one needs to follow instructions from [1].
[1]
Franky Van Liedekerke ha scritto:
Framework already supports BT headsets. The fact GUI is missing shows
the lack of interest from end-users, well, i think it'll change soon.
hmm ... I thought end-users were people actually using the phone, not
unix-hackers ...
That's why I wrote it ;)
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller ha scritto:
Dear community,
2) Therefore we plan to offer this service to all Openmoko owners
within the EU harmonized market / tax union (to avoid re-import/export
hassle). Please note that there will be a rework fee. The final price
is not yet clear
The Digital Pioneer ha scritto:
Hey, this is great! Best FR terminal I've seen. I do have a question
though... In the output, it says ./fatfingershell: can't access font
8x13, trying fixed just before creating its GUI. That doesn't seem to
be a problem, but I don't like rogue error
Rafael Ignacio Zurita ha scritto:
Hello,
--- On Fri, 3/27/09, DJDAS dj...@djdas.net wrote:
Hi,
I get the previous error and then this message, after GUI
creation, and
the program quits:
./fatfingershell: select failed
Using Om2008.9+FDOM, any suggestion?
No idea, could you
Ron K. Jeffries ha scritto:
Q1: Where does one find a list of all current OpenMoko distributions?
Q2: Is there an effort to make one of these distributions THE
production version that ships on new phones after some date? Is that
date established or up in the air?
Q3: if one orders a
Helge Hafting ha scritto:
As for the buzz, it depends on how bad it is. If the other end can't
hear you properly then it is a defect. If they get some background noise
that don't prevent the use as a phone, then it merely is a phone of
low but useable quality.
Helge Hafting
The
Matthias Apitz ha scritto:
Hi,
The question is seriously, so please don't respond with 'use the right
finger': How can I generate the X11 event ButtonPress/ButtonRelease for
button 3, i.e. the right button of the mouse, with the touchpad of the
FR? Thx
Sorry for that, I was in funny
Max Giesbert ha scritto:
I know this behavior from the desktop. There you have to use a right
mouse click to scroll backwards...
Dunno how to get a right click on the Freerunner though...
Use your right finger :P
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Openmoko community
Matthias Apitz ha scritto:
Hello,
Is anybody using UMTS connections with the FR based on USB connected
modem devices like the USB HSDPA Huawei E220 one? Any other ideas as
devices? Thx
matthias
Yes, I do and it works pretty well (not considering battery drain ;) )
You can find
Matthias Apitz ha scritto:
El día Tuesday, February 03, 2009 a las 02:35:06PM +0100, DJDAS escribió:
Thanks for the pointer. I do Spanish and so I can read the page. :-)
Your modem is as well Huawei E220? I have had one borrowed by Vodafone
and it worked well on my FreeBSD laptop too
Josh Thompson ha scritto:
Nope, look at this: http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/
Bye :)
On what distro are you using QWO? I just tried it on SHR, and nothing ever
shows up. If I ssh in to my FR with my display forwarded to my desktop and
run it, it seems to work ok.
Anyone know how to
arne anka ha scritto:
there's rosetta
http://www.handhelds.org/project/rosetta/
another attempt is cellwriter
http://risujin.org/cellwriter
I use QWO since December and I feel very nice with it, forgot any other
keyboard and dictionariesvery good input method.
Bye :)
arne anka ha scritto:
I use QWO since December and I feel very nice with it, forgot any other
keyboard and dictionariesvery good input method.
what's qwo? the qtopia one?
_
Nope, look at this: http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/
Bye :)
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arne anka ha scritto:
Nope, look at this: http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/
quikwriting (qwikwrite?). yes. i've seen that before. is it really that
good?
IMHO the best one I've never seen I became very fast after few days
(now I have a counter problem, as I'm too fast doing
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto:
Billk
I've seen Enlightenment running between 18% and 30% most of the time
lately, with SHR. And I just discovered I am able to drop it to 3%-5% and
bring it back through a single change: I've been tweaking some Oxygen
icons and using
Michael Zanetti ha scritto:
As It seems this thread is becoming more and more some sort of a whish-list,
I
will put my 2ct here also:
- Please don't add a camera: Has ever anyone made a picture with a mobile
phone camera that doesn't suck? Get a real camera if you want to make some
nice
rakshat hooja ha scritto:
ponoko.com http://ponoko.com would do it for you, or
emachineshop.com http://emachineshop.com
if you get some pricing, could you let us know -- even your desgin?
i am still pondering the idea of a new casing ...
Thanks. will update when I get
Robin Paulson ha scritto:
2008/12/11 Clemens Dörrhöfer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I am starting to learn pygtk and my helloworld Project is this primitiv
gui, which lets you switch the orientatin of the screen. I don't like the
automatic switching and with the help of this, I can do it manually.
Andreas Fischer ha scritto:
I totally disagree. First, I do not think that phones age that quick. I
used an age-old Nokia phone (I think it was a 3510 - ca. 2002) until I
got my Freerunner this summer. Unless something unforeseen happens, next
summer the two Neos will _still_ be the only fully
Arigead ha scritto:
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Minh Ha Duong wrote:
Le mercredi 03 décembre 2008, arne anka a écrit :
The second option is more like it. It takes a few hours to design a
T-Shirt
and upload it to an online store where everybody else can go and
Steve Mosher ha scritto:
please do.
DJDAS wrote:
What about making a T-shirt with the hardware schematics? ;)
Well :) I'm a bit practical with The Gimp, I'll try to do something in
the weekend, in the meantime I accept suggestions for the file format,
size, color numbers and so on so
Hi all,
I was thinking about an expense handling program (like HandyExpenses on
Symbian phones), I have many ideas in mind but didn't write anything
yet, but looking at some screenshots at linuxtogo I saw these:
http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=6
I didn't find such an application (tried
Al Iasid ha scritto:
IMHO having to dig out a stylus (pen) or use my fingernail is not
nearly as convenient or enjoyable as a finger-friendly interface. I
don't min hi res or low res - or big or small screen size - as long as
the interface is finger-friendly. The cell phone is our most
Dear members,
I follow the list since October, although I own my Freerunner since
July. I owned a A5 before I needed its substitution from my seller
because the handsfree speaker stopped working so now I own a A6 revision.
I live in Italy and my carrier is Vodafone. I noticed this (appeared in
Cédric Berger ha scritto:
I did not have a look at neo's circuitry.
But whatever the method it uses, it cannot force 1A if 1A is not
available (wall charger unplugged from the wall won't give 1A :-p ) ?
Uhm...not exactly true... Ohm Law says: V = R * I - I = V/R, and if
R-0 then I-oo
In
Sarton O'Brien ha scritto:
Speaking of formatting ... I imagine there's a reply in there somewhere :P
On Tuesday 21 October 2008 01:31:21 DJDAS wrote:
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
html
head
/head
..
/body
/html
Sorry :P Sent in HTML
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra ha scritto:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 01:33:20PM +0200, Fabian Henze wrote:
On 20.10.2008 at 12:00:36, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 01:37:33AM +0200, Fabian Henze wrote:
As it seems popular these
Carsten Gerlach ha scritto:
Hi,
Am Dienstag 14. Oktober 2008 3:13:14 am schrieb Joel Newkirk:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:26:10 +0100, Stroller wrote
Isn't it in .bashrc or .bash_profile?
Stroller.
it is for bash, but OM distros are using an sh/ash
Daniel Hedblom ha scritto:
Expanding capabilities with gestures is nice and can add usability to
a device. Using them as the default way of accomplish things makes the
device very hard to use for a beginner.
That is why configuration dialogs were invented ;) there could be an
option which
wp wrote:
What is your opinion? Say what you like, and what you don't? Make your
own pics, share it with us. Free the imagination!
Very very nice :)
Why not substitute the touch for the left panel with an accel gesture
that slides the panel tilting the phone?
This could lock the panel and
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